Do they hire pilots with open work permits (PGWP)?

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The Keewatin AD on Avcanada states that a Canadian passport is required which means they don't want someone with PR

Appreciating that it might not make any practical difference to a potential applicant to hear this, that may not be a lawful requirement. Alternatively, it may just have been carelessly written.

[tanxiaoneng]

Wouldn't training for an instructor rating be considered professional training?

Other useful information:

You don't need a study permit for any course shorter than six months:
https://www.cic.gc.ca/english/helpcentr ... 484&top=15

I also understand from various online resources that you can apply for a study permit while you already hold a PGWP, and hold both at the same time. But I can't find an official confirmation. A study permit would qualify as your authorization to study, and the process to get such authorization would simply be to apply for a new study permit.

I was aware that you didn't need a study permit for a course shorter than six months but I thought you couldn't hold a study permit and PGWP at the same time? Could you share your source for that information?

Frankly I think this is a question worth asking an immigration consultant or some consultants, especially if you really want/need FIR training.

[Aspiredtofly]

Other useful information:

You don't need a study permit for any course shorter than six months:
https://www.cic.gc.ca/english/helpcentr ... 484&top=15

I also understand from various online resources that you can apply for a study permit while you already hold a PGWP, and hold both at the same time. But I can't find an official confirmation. A study permit would qualify as your authorization to study, and the process to get such authorization would simply be to apply for a new study permit.

I was aware that you didn't need a study permit for a course shorter than six months but I thought you couldn't hold a study permit and PGWP at the same time? Could you share your source for that information?

Frankly I think this is a question worth asking an immigration consultant or some consultants, especially if you really want/need FIR training.

Just follow the instructor path and you'll be fine, work for a year or two, get good language profeciency score then look at the diffrent PR programs your eligible for and apply. I know a guy who works at WJ, he went the same exact route and he's doing pretty well

[the_strange__r]

Hi folks,

I'm an international student finishing my CPL and soon multi-IFR. I know many if not most flight schools have no problem hiring graduated candidates with a work permit, but what are the chances at local airlines?

A PGWP work permit doesn't require sponsorship or anything. It is work authorization for graduates to work any job. But somehow I have a feeling that it'll be a problem with airlines.

Anybody has any practical experiences?

Cheers,

Hi, it's been more than 6 months since you posted about this, so did you find a job on your PGWP ?? or You went on the instructor path?

[tanxiaoneng]

Hi folks,

I'm an international student finishing my CPL and soon multi-IFR. I know many if not most flight schools have no problem hiring graduated candidates with a work permit, but what are the chances at local airlines?

A PGWP work permit doesn't require sponsorship or anything. It is work authorization for graduates to work any job. But somehow I have a feeling that it'll be a problem with airlines.

Anybody has any practical experiences?

Cheers,

Hi, it's been more than 6 months since you posted about this, so did you find a job on your PGWP ?? or You went on the instructor path?

Hey, I'm still in training due to various reasons including the fact that I want a long enough PGWP.

Good news is from talking to representatives from local airlines, they do hire pilots on PGWP. Major airlines would require PR.

[the_strange__r]

That's a good thing to know, I am joining MFC in Saskatoon soon as an international student and isn't planning to go with the Instructor path. I know Mainline requires PR, but wasn't sure that local airlines also need PR or work permit actually work.
Thank you

[canadian_aviator_4]

With most 705s you need at least a PR. I’m sure there are exceptions. Plus, if you fly with a mainline not having citizenship could make customs more complicated: if you come from a country with a passport requiring entry visas to the mainline destinations, you will be responsible for obtaining these entry visas.

[fox12]

I am on an open work permit with +800hs, I've been applying for jobs other than Instructing but with no luck. It seems like recruiters prefer candidates without least PR

[HariaM]

I am on an open work permit with +800hs, I've been applying for jobs other than Instructing but with no luck. It seems like recruiters prefer candidates without least PR

If you don't mind me asking how long have you been trying to apply and where have you applied? I have applied at JAZZ and PAL for example and their application portal has the option to select "Valid Open Work Permit". I am in the same boat as you and only started applying a week ago. I do have 1000 hrs of Total time though.

[fox12]

I am on an open work permit with +800hs, I've been applying for jobs other than Instructing but with no luck. It seems like recruiters prefer candidates without least PR

If you don't mind me asking how long have you been trying to apply and where have you applied? I have applied at JAZZ and PAL for example and their application portal has the option to select "Valid Open Work Permit". I am in the same boat as you and only started applying a week ago. I do have 1000 hrs of Total time though.

it has been a month now, I only got a phone interview from a medieval company, will keep trying

[tupues]

With most 705s you need at least a PR. I’m sure there are exceptions. Plus, if you fly with a mainline not having citizenship could make customs more complicated: if you come from a country with a passport requiring entry visas to the mainline destinations, you will be responsible for obtaining these entry visas.

This is wrong. There are very few countries that require a visa for certain nationalities and not for others when you enter the country as crew. USA is one of them, which is why most Canadian airlines will want a US crew visa if no Canadian passport is held. That's about it. All other destinations you will be traveling on a general declaration, which is the same for everyone on the crew, Canadian or not.

[Instructor01]

With most 705s you need at least a PR. I’m sure there are exceptions. Plus, if you fly with a mainline not having citizenship could make customs more complicated: if you come from a country with a passport requiring entry visas to the mainline destinations, you will be responsible for obtaining these entry visas.

This is wrong. There are very few countries that require a visa for certain nationalities and not for others when you enter the country as crew. USA is one of them, which is why most Canadian airlines will want a US crew visa if no Canadian passport is held. That's about it. All other destinations you will be traveling on a general declaration, which is the same for everyone on the crew, Canadian or not.

How do you get a crew visa without being employed first? A letter of employment is a requirement for the crewvisa