Ratherbe wrote: ↑Fri Sep 30, 2022 1:31 pm
P4C has been very clear that they want to leave ACPA and join ALPA. That is what is motivating them and driving their decisions.
The AC pilots on the other hand have been very clear that they want pay raises not the distraction of a union drive.
Have they? On the contrary, I think there is widespread support for a change in representation. In fact, I'd venture to say that many among us believe it's long overdue. A pay raise and a change of representation are not mutually exclusive - we have the capacity to achieve both.
Ratherbe wrote: ↑Fri Sep 30, 2022 1:31 pm
Obviously this MOA would be bad news for P4C as it shows that ACPA with a new Chair and Negots Team can deliver results despite the presence of a war and a recession.
Comments about the war in Ukraine and potential recession are a red herring. But speaking about delivering results, what do you think about delivering an increase in DBM to 85 hours for widebody aircraft, with no cap on days worked, as a permanent concession in the contract? The company has difficulties filling PIT courses now, just wait til we tell all those new-hire 787 and 777 FOs that they're going to be doing seven Atlantic crossings a month for a whopping $62k/year! Where do I sign up?
Ratherbe wrote: ↑Fri Sep 30, 2022 1:31 pm
Do you guys really think that we will be in a stronger position next year?
Capture the gains now.
Next year is irrelevant. The company needs this MOA in order to staff the operation to meet targets for Summer 2023. We don't have to make concessions now in a rush to make a hasty deal that we will regret later. There is no harm to the pilot group in waiting to see if there's a better offer, which I strongly suspect there will be. If not, we press on to the contract reopener in 2023. With the present vacancies, I'm willing to bet with a high degree of confidence that staffing the airline is still going to be the number one issue to be resolved next year.
Also - people saying "capture the gains now, deal with the consequences later" lost all credibility after the 10% pay cut for the 767 freighter operation. This attitude of constantly needing the help the company out is what got us into this mess in the first place.