This is why I don’t trust the media

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rookiepilot wrote: Thu Dec 15, 2022 6:34 pm I think you’re connecting 2 very different things, at least for the vast majority of folks.
He doesn't.
Religious nuts, anti-vax nuts, same really....If you don't see it, maybe that's because you are one of the two!?

"Irrational, deep-seated belief in God" for one.
"Irrational, deep-seated belief in anti-vaccine" for the other.

Both: "They belittle the intelligent and reasonable person who tries to make them come to their senses" :mrgreen:
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Religious nuts, anti-vax nuts, same really....If you don't see it, maybe that's because you are one of the two!?
Religious nuts, vax nuts, same really!
"Irrational, deep-seated belief in God" for one.
"Irrational, deep-seated belief in vaccine" for the other.

Both: "They belittle the intelligent and reasonable person who tries to make them come to their senses"

About the covidism religion .
The pro vaccine are strict adherents to the letter of the law. They follow the guidelines religiously, can quote government rules without hesitation, are experts on what can be done when, by whom, to whom, inside or outside, with a mask, without a mask, with or without others. They may get hot and bothered, even febrile, if others disagree with their approach. But don’t argue with them, they are the righteous, with the hotline to the Truth.



By the way, I had a running nose this morning. Just for fun I took a test (we still have a box full of covid test stuff, from work, at home) and, guess what? I have covid!! My second official one, yeah!! Or I had, cause tonight I'm fine, no more running nose... Same as last time.
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You all remember when team Canada womens hockey team played against Russia and they wore masks to show how committed they were to stop Covid :lol: hilarious.

Now wear your mask and get your vax!

New study is coming out, it has data that shows Masking, when used with other Covid measures, is 90 percent effective at increasing inflation. You heard it here first! Let this all sink in a few more years… we need to see some people lose their jobs, and lose their home. We will also see healthcare continue to fall apart, taxes will remain high but services will be cut.

All by design folks! Covid was an eye opener to how easy it is to make Canadians comply, this was probably just testing the waters for future WEF climate change measures. All we need is a little CBC catastrophe headlines, a fake solution to a fake problem (just like Covid and masking), and Canadians will be well under way to more compliance :lol:. Canadians are well set up to be taken for a ride the next decade. Oh yes and trust the media! The 20th wave is coming, mask up! :lol:… next “big issue” is climate catastrophe, I would bet on it.
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There is one thing you bunch of anti-vax nut jobs seems to be missing is that the Covid variant circulating "Now" is less nocive than what it used to be.
-->It mutated in the right direction<--
No more real problem if someone doesn't want to get vaccinated "Now" as it is "Now" less critical for the mass population (I repeat: "Now")

Same with masks really. Anyway none of us peasants had the discipline to wear them properly or change them every few hours, me included, so useless in that way!? You bet you're right! I would appreciate that anyone coughing none stop on the back of my neck had one though... It won't stop the train wreck but slow it down at least.

All those lockdowns, restrictions, vaccination, etc... Did their job! Suck it up! And we finally learned to live with this virus.

Well maybe not the anti-vax's crowd. You are the ones who keeps relighting this useless sub-forum with your hard self beliefs on how health's population should be managed. Like if I would let my life being dictated by an anti-vax know it all Joe blow's crowd digging their knowledge straight from Youtube, TikTok, Facebook or any conspiracy website. You are the self proclaimed "expert" here since you don't want to listen to those who really are (Not me, I'm just a messenger)

This said, most of us just want to carry on with our life. If this self created fighting gives you some sort of a goal in life so be it. But please stay in your circle jerk/Back slapping crowd and don't come annoying the rest with your silliness. It's Ok, Virus is less nocive "Now" and we learned to live with it.



Ps: Vaccination is not about a single person but herd immunity by the way.
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TG wrote: Sun Dec 18, 2022 6:44 am There is one thing you bunch of anti-vax nut jobs seems to be missing is that the Covid variant circulating "Now" is less nocive than what it used to be.
-->It mutated in the right direction<--
No more real problem if someone doesn't want to get vaccinated "Now" as it is "Now" less critical for the mass population (I repeat: "Now")

Same with masks really. Anyway none of us peasants had the discipline to wear them properly or change them every few hours, me included, so useless in that way!? You bet you're right! I would appreciate that anyone coughing none stop on the back of my neck had one though... It won't stop the train wreck but slow it down at least.

All those lockdowns, restrictions, vaccination, etc... Did their job! Suck it up! And we finally learned to live with this virus.

Well maybe not the anti-vax's crowd. You are the ones who keeps relighting this useless sub-forum with your hard self beliefs on how health's population should be managed. Like if I would let my life being dictated by an anti-vax know it all Joe blow's crowd digging their knowledge straight from Youtube, TikTok, Facebook or any conspiracy website. You are the self proclaimed "expert" here since you don't want to listen to those who really are (Not me, I'm just a messenger)

This said, most of us just want to carry on with our life. If this self created fighting gives you some sort of a goal in life so be it. But please stay in your circle jerk/Back slapping crowd and don't come annoying the rest with your silliness. It's Ok, Virus is less nocive "Now" and we learned to live with it.


Ps: Vaccination is not about a single person but herd immunity by the way.
Why are all the 4 and 5 times vaxxed people I know getting sick the most then? Those with 0-2 of the miracle jab seem to be doing better. Ps: Haven’t worn a mask since March while out shopping or other indoor settings excluding when forced at the airport and haven’t got sick other than a mild cold. :)
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It's mind boggling how TG can't see things objectively, along with another 10 percent of the population.

Its was only a month ago the media was pumping the mandatory mask craze all over citing hospitals full of kids near death.

As soon as the Ford government said no, it ain't happening, the media completely ditched the topic and went on to its next idea for clicks. This happens to be cross dressing story time.

So what has happened since the no mandatory mask month? Hospitals are still full, just the same, but it's been said rsv and flu have actually peaked... No Way! You can't be serious! How did we survive without mandatory masking? How did cases actually peak and now trend downwards. Masking does nothing... Just dumb as liberals trying to mask your kids and groom them into transgenders.

New study coming in folks! There is no such thing as long covid, only long vaccine.... Ha!

Never forget the two years of stupidity... I went to the gym the other day and I out in a complaint... They took away the pexi glass at the counter. I felt unsafe... They also used to put caution tape on every other treadmill... They took that off and we are at full capacity... I wrote head office.... I don't feel safe... We need more vaccine and more masks... More lockdowns and inflation... We need all of it folks!
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rando wrote: Sun Dec 18, 2022 11:29 am It's mind boggling how TG can't see things objectively, along with another 10 percent of the population.
But you can see things objectively? This is a symptom of something but probably not what you think.
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Aviatard wrote: Sun Dec 18, 2022 1:40 pm
rando wrote: Sun Dec 18, 2022 11:29 am It's mind boggling how TG can't see things objectively, along with another 10 percent of the population.
But you can see things objectively? This is a symptom of something but probably not what you think.
What covid policy over the past 3 years was good policy? Time to out yourself as a nutcase.

Lockdowns? Masks? Closing parks? Closing ski hills? Closing restaurants? Vaccine passports? Telling people not to have sex, only use glory hole? What was your favorite and what would you do again to stop the spread of the next respiratory virus?

Every liberal I know has told me they regret the last 3 years of policy and how they actually believed it was good policy. Now they say we should just put this behind us and forgive and forget. :lol: Hell no. Policy makers should be held accountable, and this history needs to be remembered by future generations. Remember the stupidity of the last couple years. Remember the lies, "science". Just move on they tell ya, after they egregiously took away your freedoms and made every attempt to destroy your quality of life if you don't comply.

New study coming out, masks worked so well kids immunity is now deficient causing increased hospitalization :lol:
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Aviatard wrote: Sun Dec 18, 2022 1:40 pm
rando wrote: Sun Dec 18, 2022 11:29 am It's mind boggling how TG can't see things objectively, along with another 10 percent of the population.
But you can see things objectively? This is a symptom of something but probably not what you think.
He clearly doesn't and I lost track under which allias he was posting before.
This total shame of sub-forum should be set private so only the nut-bars anti-vax could post in it and still convince themselves that warm water is not wet.

That way they won't really pollute AvCanada and this site would keep its same amount of advertising revenue.
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Just so we are clear, TG thinks it’s acceptable for police to enter private property and arrest people and or fine them for having a party with 7 people in a house.

I think I see how objectively bat shit crazy that is. Ice skating! Oh my goodness would you look at that! Super spreaders! Not 40 people outdoors on an ice rink! Arrest them! TG you on the sidelines cheering this one on also?

Should we all feel good about how government keeps us safe? What would we do if government didn’t lock us down… would we get some exercise and fresh air? Ah man that damn science! It says don’t exercise, wear a mask and stay home! HEALTH MEASURES! How much has the overall health of Canadians improved with this magical science of stay home get better?

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This is TG’s proudest moment as a Canadian. Freezing bank accounts of mostly peaceful protestors. Canadians, don’t forget this next election.

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rando wrote: Sun Dec 18, 2022 9:49 pm Just so we are clear, TG thinks it’s acceptable for police to enter private property and arrest people and or fine them for having a party with 7 people in a house.

I think I see how objectively bat shit crazy that is. Ice skating! Oh my goodness would you look at that! Super spreaders! Not 40 people outdoors on an ice rink! Arrest them! TG you on the sidelines cheering this one on also?

Should we all feel good about how government keeps us safe? What would we do if government didn’t lock us down… would we get some exercise and fresh air? Ah man that damn science! It says don’t exercise, wear a mask and stay home! HEALTH MEASURES! How much has the overall health of Canadians improved with this magical science of stay home get better?

Whatever you smoke it seems to be a good one. I happen to follow the law and that tend to keep me out of trouble. Do that and none of that crap will happen (How many times I have to repeat it to you?)

Now if I was living in some real sh!tty country like North Korea and all I'll try to do something about it (More risky I recon than simply get your assets frozen for some time)
And again....Re-read what I posted. Covid mutated to something more trivial, we are mainly done with it! So what's up with you as there is no more lockdowns, restrictions, masks, vaccination?

You don't like Canada? Nothing is preventing you to leave for greener pastures.
Don't want to leave? Vote for a political party suiting your agenda.
No political party suiting your agenda? Create one doing it and see how many "nut bars know it all" will follow you.


Relax and enjoy your life, there no need to waste it fighting a fight that doesn't even exist.
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We need to not forget this. People with your mentality will destroy Canada. I'm so glad you mentioned north Korea.

What happens when you have an economy that people won't engage with? Leaders have implemented policies that make housing and the cost of living very expensive. All of this covid nonsense made things worse. When people refuse to engage with the economy because its to expensive to ever get ahead, people give up. They then just want the government to provide.

Now name what socialist country you idolize that you want Canada to become. Venezuela? Cuba? North Korea?

If you were born in the 50s or 60s, you could get a mortgage because you had job, period. If you worked you were approved. If you were born in the 70s and 80s you had a harder time with home buying but most were still able to engage in home ownership. Now take someone born today, or who is 18 years old, can working educated professionals even afford homes? How many years do you have to work as a pilot before you can afford a downpayment? Now consider that most people's retirement plan involves home ownership. Now consider DB pensions are basically nonexistent.

I would say Canada is 30 years behind Europe, and 60 years behind becoming a communist shit hole if we continue on our present path. All of the great values that this country was built on are being eroded.

So think to yourself again why this all matters, why does it matter that covid restrictions ended and why do we need to remember and not let this happen again? Because the way you think, and the way government operates is a cancer to our country. No covid policy was justified, scientific etc. The government has eroded our values, eroded our wealth, eroded our opportunities to engage with the economy. We are slowly spending away printed money in in unsustainable ways and not enough people are fighting for Canada.

Rather than explaining or justifying covid restrictions, your only answer today is you follow rules. Well sir have you looked at other shit holes of the world where people follow rules? North Korea, Iran? What is so envious of the shit hole you want Canada to become?
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rando wrote: Mon Dec 19, 2022 5:24 am People with your mentality will destroy Canada.

Now name what socialist country you idolize that you want Canada to become. Venezuela? Cuba? North Korea?

All of the great values that this country was built on are being eroded.

Because the way you think, and the way government operates is a cancer to our country.

What is so envious of the shit hole you want Canada to become?
Those are a lot of words you made up to describe someone who has said nothing of the sort. Lovely unhinged rant though. You sure have the CON playbook down pat: invoke socialism and communism (as though they’re the same thing), call people cancer and talk about our great values that we used to have. Brilliant.

You were a lot more fun when you were montado and WellThatAgedWell and your couple of other accounts you made just to post about Covid on an aviation forum. You’ve gotten worse so that you now seem unwell.
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Dr Moore explains how the vaccine is more of a risk than a benefit to healthy young people.



Then Trudeau (start at 8 min) says vaccines are a choice, but don’t think you will get on a plane or a train and pit others at risk!

[YouTube]https://www.youtube.com/live/K5qRPn7__JA?feature=share[/YouTube]

Trudeau thinks you should risk your health, for the safety of everyone else, when we knew vaccines don’t prevent transmission. For a guy who is anti science he sure talks lots about following science and having great Canadian values.

When will TG and avitard admit they are wrong? To much pride?
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Lest we forget.

Trudeau has no sympathy for Canadians with acceptable values. How does this guy win elections? He does not believe in bringing people together he says. So he believes in division? What kind of whacky liberal values is this?

TG… Trudeau said we don’t have a right to endanger others. Does a healthy 18 year old, who is at more risk from a vaccine than its benefits, endanger others? Was Trudeau correct on his assessment of keeping Canadians safe?

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Aviatard, what do you think of the covid protests in China. Do you think it's appropriate that a fringe minority don't care about other people's lives? Do you think they should respect the science of lockdowns and trust their government rule? Do you admire china's basic dictatorship?
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TG wrote: Sun Dec 18, 2022 6:44 am There is one thing you bunch of anti-vax nut jobs seems to be missing is that the Covid variant circulating "Now" is less nocive than what it used to be.
-->It mutated in the right direction<--
My family and I had the same symptoms this month thant when we first had covid in 2021... The first variant was not more nocive for us.
And we are not anti-vax, we are just against this one in particular.
No more real problem if someone doesn't want to get vaccinated "Now" as it is "Now" less critical for the mass population (I repeat: "Now")
Yes it is still a real problem, cause some governments and employers still requires this vaccine...

All those lockdowns, restrictions, vaccination, etc... Did their job! Suck it up! And we finally learned to live with this virus.
Once again, can you please show us your sources? At least one!
I learned to live with the virus shortly after it was around. But I still cannot live as I used to, because of all the people like you...
Ps: Vaccination is not about a single person but herd immunity by the way.
Pfizer said their vaccine didn't prevent transmission, they are not tested for that (read that again). How can you develop herd immunity then??
Herd immunity comes when the majority of the population has been vaccinated or has been infected by the virus. The last one is more efficient as it is the virus itself and its variants, not something modified or mixed with other stuff. There is nothing better than the virus itself to help your body in fighting it!

I'm just a messenger
Who is telling you that message? Can we trust them?
Maybe you should start reading, studying, learning and thinking by yourself. Instead of repeating the same message...
Maybe you should start listening to those people who disagree with you. Who knows, maybe they are right?

Can you explain why so many people are suddenly dying this year? Why kids and healthy athlets have more heart attacks this year?
I have an idea, but it may be just a coincidence...
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CortoMaltese wrote: Tue Dec 20, 2022 8:26 pm
TG wrote: Sun Dec 18, 2022 6:44 am There is one thing you bunch of anti-vax nut jobs seems to be missing is that the Covid variant circulating "Now" is less nocive than what it used to be.
-->It mutated in the right direction<--
My family and I had the same symptoms this month thant when we first had covid in 2021... The first variant was not more nocive for us.
And we are not anti-vax, we are just against this one in particular.
No more real problem if someone doesn't want to get vaccinated "Now" as it is "Now" less critical for the mass population (I repeat: "Now")
Yes it is still a real problem, cause some governments and employers still requires this vaccine...

All those lockdowns, restrictions, vaccination, etc... Did their job! Suck it up! And we finally learned to live with this virus.
Once again, can you please show us your sources? At least one!
I learned to live with the virus shortly after it was around. But I still cannot live as I used to, because of all the people like you...
Ps: Vaccination is not about a single person but herd immunity by the way.
Pfizer said their vaccine didn't prevent transmission, they are not tested for that (read that again). How can you develop herd immunity then??
Herd immunity comes when the majority of the population has been vaccinated or has been infected by the virus. The last one is more efficient as it is the virus itself and its variants, not something modified or mixed with other stuff. There is nothing better than the virus itself to help your body in fighting it!

I'm just a messenger
Who is telling you that message? Can we trust them?
Maybe you should start reading, studying, learning and thinking by yourself. Instead of repeating the same message...
Maybe you should start listening to those people who disagree with you. Who knows, maybe they are right?

Can you explain why so many people are suddenly dying this year? Why kids and healthy athlets have more heart attacks this year?
I have an idea, but it may be just a coincidence...
All your questions were already answered by me and others in this sub-forum so scroll back.

And like if I would trust your health and medical’s judgment over the cohorts of scientists who spend their life into it. Think about that for one second….

About herd immunity. Again and again you conveniently miss that a Covid vaccin will diminish the virus effect amongst other things. It won’t stop it but it will reduce contamination. It’s a tool like the others.
Because you and your family didn’t get it bad doesn’t mean it was the same for others. You gambled a Russian roulette and win. It has more to do with luck than proper judgment. While it is correct saying this virus was less lethal than the Ebola (Lesser now) It’s still far from being innocent.

I know you bunch sucks at statistics but have a looks at the life expectancy’s one for the States alone and you’ll see a dip in the last two years. Explain that one if the Covid virus was as pristine as you seems to believe.
And what are you talking about healthy athletes and heat attack? It’s nothing new. Push your body to the limits and once in a while one is bound to drop dead. Kids!? No idea where you got this idea as I don’t loose my time scrolling conspiracy websites.


Give it a rest you bunch of Onoda https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hiroo_Onoda
Actually you are fighting a war that doesn’t even exist so my example with Onoda is wrong!
More like teenagers who know it all, you tell them don’t do that you will hurt yourself but they will carry on anyway as they obviously know better.

So stay in your lalaland with your buddies here and have fun. You won’t change my mind, I won’t change yours. And correct, I’m no expert here, you are! So you think….You can keep dissecting totally wrong every single sentence I write here if it pleases you, specialty of rando/WellThatAgedWell.

The thing I will agree with is that Canada sucks with its timing at removing restrictions and all. But it’s not as bad as China where yes, they do abuse it! Where drawing the line is the game.

And « Fine tuning the balance, China doesn’t have » as Yoda would say!
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