Licensing Question

[Super Mario]

Does TC accept flight time abroad in the same manner as flight time in Canada when applying for the ATPL?

Scenario:

Canadian pilot with over 1500 hrs, valid MIFR, exams completed, but lacking the required night, or instrument, etc.......gets a job overseas and while overseas, within a year of doing the last MIFR ride, acquires the remaining night or instrument, for the Canadian ATPL.

If the logbook and application are mailed to TC in Canada with the logbook showing the last few required hours were flown and signed off in another country, would there be any problem with the license issue?

Thanks

[Stinky]

My situation was very similar. Exams and group 1 completed but lacked night time. I worked in the U.S. where I got the required night time. Mailed off the application and had the ATPL in no time.

[Panama Jack]

No problem what so-ever. Exactly the same situation I had, and trust me, the night is just as dark in other countries as it is in Canada.

[dangerous]

Just don't log night time during the summer in the arctic. I know someone that got busted for that. To top it off, the planes in his logbook were floatplanes too. How dumb can someone be eh? Arctic + summer + floatplane does not equal night time!

[Right Seat Captain]

Just don't log night time during the summer in the arctic. I know someone that got busted for that. To top it off, the planes in his logbook were floatplanes too. How dumb can someone be eh? Arctic + summer + floatplane does not equal night time!

Why not?

"night" - means the time between the end of evening civil twilight and the beginning of morning civil twilight;

If you are between these times, then it is night.

However flying a float plane at night, then logging it? Not wise.

[ice ice baby]

Can someone show me where it says you can't fly a float plane at night....I realise that you can't (legally) land at night except at a few lighted water aerodromes in the states.

Aren't flying and landing two separate things.

[Right Seat Captain]

Can someone show me where it says you can't fly a float plane at night....I realise that you can't (legally) land at night except at a few lighted water aerodromes in the states.

Aren't flying and landing two separate things.

You're right, you can fly a float plane at night, but you could never land or take-off unless it was during the day. That would make for one really long flight, or a very short night.

Landing at or Take-off from an Aerodrome at Night

602.40 (1) Subject to subsection (2), no person shall conduct a landing or a take-off in a heavier-than-air aircraft at night at an aerodrome unless the aerodrome is lighted in accordance with the aerodrome lighting requirements specified in Part III.

(2) A person may conduct a landing or a take-off in a heavier-than-air aircraft at night at an aerodrome that is not lighted in accordance with the requirements referred to in subsection (1) where

(a) the flight is conducted without creating a hazard to persons or property on the surface; and

(b) the aircraft is operated

(i) for the purpose of a police operation that is conducted in the service of a police authority, or

(ii) for the purpose of saving human life.

[Harry Bagina]

Right Seat Captain,


Flying at night in places like Cambridge Bay and Inuvik, sunset and sunrise dont come during parts of June. Therefore, it is not night. Thats why certain float companies can fly at hours as late as 1:00 or 2:00 in the morning legally.

[Walker]

however the answer to the original question........

ANY time logged in an ICAO country AC MUST be recognized In any OTHER ICAO country. So technically you could conduct all of your training in Tunisia, come to Canada, fulfill the ground school, the written and the flight test requirements and be issued a license.
Hence one of the major reasons ICAO came into existence in 1944, (although it wasn’t part of the UN at that time (I wonder why?¿?¿?¿?) Also I believe it was called PICAO, but that kiddies is another story….)

[Right Seat Captain]

Right Seat Captain,
Flying at night in places like Cambridge Bay and Inuvik, sunset and sunrise dont come during parts of June. Therefore, it is not night. Thats why certain float companies can fly at hours as late as 1:00 or 2:00 in the morning legally.

Right I was thinking the otherway around, like in Winter, when it's always night. It was late when I posted that, I didn't realize that it's always day, not night, during the summer.

[Jaques Strappe]

What ever happened to the requirement of the center of the suns disc being 6 degrees below the horizon to log night?

Thats what the requirement was when I did my licence. Is that definition still around?

[Right Seat Captain]

What ever happened to the requirement of the center of the suns disc being 6 degrees below the horizon to log night?

Thats what the requirement was when I did my licence. Is that definition still around?

That is the definition of civil twilight, not night. The definition of Civil Twilight comes from the US Naval Observatory, I believe.

[emanon]

Whenever you are logging time at "night" it has to be in accordance to the CARS definition of night which is then end of evening civil twilight to the beginning of morning civil twilight. If you look in other locations for the definition of civil twilight it gets into the 6 degree thing.

My question is, does anyone know the link to a good night calculator? I find navigating tc websites a royal pain and can't be bothered anymore.

[Redneck_pilot86]

I had a flight on floats that departed at 1am, returned at 5am. It was about a 1.8 hour leg, and I logged an hour of night time on the way in. As far as I'm concerned, its all legit. IDK what transport will say.

[Big Pistons Forever]

I did one flight in an Amphib 206 where I took off from the water about 5 min before grounding time and landed 45 mins later at an airport. I logged 0.9 hr flight time with 0.9 hour float and 0.6 hrs night.

[railroad]

Yep, gotta a few hours of night on floats. Departed camp A just prior to the end of civil twilight flew "all night" and landed at camp B just after the start of civil twilight the next day. Acutally it was the next morning (still the same "day")

I would have to admit though, it would be tough to log enough of this time to qualify for the A licence. And if you tried, flags would probably be popping up at TC.