Fast Air and Perimeter in CYWG have done it.Turboprops wrote: ↑Mon Jan 30, 2023 7:55 am You keep saying flight instructors are being hired DEC on king airs/metros, please just name a few companies doing that.
I'd wager that every medevac operator has at least tried it in the last 5 years (minus covid years).
Was he a particular sub par pilot? Or is your assumption that every instructor would need at least a year of right seat flying in order to be competent?Turboprops wrote: ↑Mon Jan 30, 2023 7:55 am Last place I worked all external hired instructors struggled through FO flight training, some don’t even make it through the sims, it was a metro operator.
Proper training would be like a full year of line indoc for this guy, at which point it’s basically do a year of right seat and upgrade, and costs way too much.
DEC sure is a quick upgrade
That's more of a philosophical question at this point I guess
But yes, I agree quick upgrade doesn't imply DEC at all. Then again, many years ago, if they told me I would get a quick upgrade during my interview, and then before my training starts I have the option of getting DEC? I'd probably have taken it as well.
Remember, people *without* ATPL are offered metro captain spots nowadays. Big difference in aircraft size, but not so different in decision making skills.
I'm unfamiliar with the specifics of the training process at Jazz. Is the 'captain sim evaluation' you refer to the first checkride you do, basically a left seat typerating?Turboprops wrote: ↑Mon Jan 30, 2023 7:55 am To answer some of your question, he failed the captain sim evaluation,
Or is it a command course type of evaluation?
Did he get a second try for the eval? Do new hires usually get a second try if they fail the first eval?
If instructors can succesfully be taught how to be PIC flying NDB approaches without support into snowstorms up north with minimal support and flat out wrong information about runway condition and weather reports, then yes, it should be possible to have those same people fly from pavement A to pavement B in a fairly rigidly controlled environment.Turboprops wrote: ↑Mon Jan 30, 2023 7:55 am had absolutely zero experience outside of an FTU before coming to Jazz.
Do you think there are any training programs on planet earth that’ll prepare him to be a CRJ captain?
The consequences for failure are much higher, but it does not require more decision making skills IMO.
Will they be as efficient as a higher, more experienced pilot initially? Perhaps (likely?) not. Will OTP suffer? Perhaps. But that's a purely economical decision from the airline ops team: do you pay more to get 705 experience and have better OTP, or do you pay less while giving instructors a chance
to do the job and accept that they will be operating in a new environment?