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Plane down in YYC

Post by 200hr Wonder »

Just saw on the local news that a plane crashed into the Bow river between Calgary and Springbank. Anyone know anymore?

Apparently pilot is in serious but stable condition, so that is good news.
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The news showed the a/c reg- C-GCCP, after doing a reg. search it shows it a Springbank Training plane. Went down in a shallow river outside of Canmore, attempted a crash landing but his gear caught and caused him to flip. He was able to get a destress call out before attempting the landing,
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Post by rejd »

Holy crap. I did most of my training on that plane. Anyone know who was flying the plane?
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Post by Strega »

The plane went down in the Elbow river (south of YBW)

The pilot is in Hospital in serious condition, I hope he recovers.

Preliminary cause=> Too much air in the tanks.
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Post by D5GRVTY »

It's a "Jump to Conclusions Mat". You see, you have this mat, with different CONCLUSIONS written on it that you could JUMP TO.

Lot's of pilots must have one of these........

tcck- Care to explain how you came to that conclusion.

P.S. The news was a little overzealous, the pilot is absolutely fine, he was walking and talking after the accident and is being kept overnight for observation as a precaution. The pilot should be out of the hospital by tomorrow.
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Post by rejd »

Hey D5, glad the pilot is ok. I also heard that the pilot was in serious condition but I know that is not the case. Another "news exaggerations"'

Take care.

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Post by Strega »

D5GRVTY wrote:

tcck- Care to explain how you came to that conclusion.

This was on the news several times,, Although it could be incorrect.

Either way this is just a BAD situation.
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Post by grimey »

D5GRVTY wrote:It's a "Jump to Conclusions Mat".
Is it really bad form to laugh in a thread about a crash?

Glad to hear the pilot is ok.
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Post by MRO »

Just saw the story on the news it looks like he lost his engine near Bragg creek and had now where to go. He put it down in the elbow river but when the nose came down it dug in and the plane flipped. He got knocked out but when he woke up he was talking to SAR directing them to his location.

Sounds like the type of thing I have nightmares about. Time for a beer after that one.
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CFRN in Edmonton said he was "teenage".
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Post by Strega »

Just confirmed again,,

"The pilot ran out of fuel on his return to CYBW"
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Post by D5GRVTY »

Confirmed by whom, the news reporters, the same ones who reported the pilot in serious condition. Anyone consider slight whiplash a serious injury?

I can virtually guarantee that he did not run out of fuel. Raise yourselves at slightly more intelligent level than the press and quit making uninformed assumptions.

P.S. Pilot did an awesome job, if you take a look at the terrain in the given area he picked one of the only clear spots.
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Pilot who crashed near YYC

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Hello,

I'm a reporter for the Calgary Herald. I'm looking to write a good news story on the crash near Bragg Creek on Monday. Anyone wishing to talk about it can give me a call, or Gwendolyn Richards, at 235-7433.

Thanks,
Sarah Chapman
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...and the can of worms is opened...
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reporter-gwendolyn wrote:Hello,

I'm a reporter for the Calgary Herald. I'm looking to write a good news story on the crash near Bragg Creek on Monday. Anyone wishing to talk about it can give me a call, or Gwendolyn Richards, at 235-7433.

Thanks,
Sarah Chapman
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Post by just another pilot »

You will probably find out the same way the rest of us will - through Transport and the RCMP. Glad he is ok.
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Post by D5GRVTY »

Anyone in YYC can tune into City TV tonight for a pilot interview.
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D5GRVTY
Just watched the news and didn’t see anything from him, just saw some instructor talk about the CARs regulation for daytime fuel reserve.

By the way D5GRVTY I don’t see anyone on here bad mouthing the guy so you really need to chill out. We aren’t making uninformed assumptions or jumping to conclusions, we are just repeating what we have been told by the reporters. I actually talked to the guy who put the back brace on the pilot in the hospital and he told me that the guy was fine. A few bruises but nothing broken at all. If you come out of a forced approach in that area with only bruises than you did an awesome job in my book.

I hope it wasn’t a fuel starvation issue but even if it were he did a hell of a job to just walk away from it. I fly the area a lot and have often thought of where I would put it down. There are not a lot of options. It looks like the nose dug in on the landing a flipped him, but given the area I would be happy with myself if I could have pulled it off.
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Sarah Chapman

Are you related to a chapman that went through BOTC just short of two years ago
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Post by D5GRVTY »

Well I apologize if I've come across as a little bit pissed off, but in the last 48hrs, I've heard things as absurd as the pilot was too young to fly and had stole the a/c and then crashed because he didn’t know how to fly.

MRO: No one here was making assumptions, the media made assumptions based on absolutely no facts and people here took them as gospel. The reason why I was upset is the pilot did a fantastic job and I hate to see people jumping to the pilot error conclusion without any facts to back them up. I prefer to err on the side of defense rather than trying to discredit the pilot.

P.S. The newspapers correctly printed that the pilot had lots of fuel.
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Post by pilotbzh »

the 17year hold pilot was talking on cbc newsworld, he said the engine stop as he power up to climb, he was at 2500ft above ground, he picked the river as a better choice than the montain, bounce on landing and fliped comming to a rest in the river....no speculation on why the engine stoped.
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Please, no jokes about his name.


Young pilot talks about surviving crash
Last updated Nov 16 2005 01:04 PM MST

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A teenaged pilot who walked away from a crash landing Monday says he had little time to decide where to put down the plane when the engine cut out – and his training kicked in.

Andrew Beatch, 17, said he'd been in the air about 10 minutes when he ran into engine trouble and had to decide what to do.

"The first thing I did was I just thought back to training and the first step they taught us to do was look for a place to put it down and then try to fix the problem," Beatch, who has been flying for two years, said.

Spotting a road and the Elbow River below him, Beatch opted for the water.

He says if he'd gone for the road, "there's a good chance I would have gone off the edge of the mountain. I thought the river was the best bet. I landed where I wanted to and it probably saved my life."

Beatch, who took the plane out from the Springbank Airport and spent 10 minutes deciding between the Cessna 172 and another plane, said the Cessna flipped upside down when he landed and he was briefly unconscious.

When he came to, he "was suspended upside down by my seat belt." The plane's windshield was cracked, there was water on the roof, and he "smelt quite a bit of fuel."

Keeping his head, he radioed in on an emergency channel to alert the airport that he was alive – he had also called in mid-flight to let them know he was in trouble – then grabbed the survival kit and got out of the plane.

He lit a fire to keep warm until rescuers arrived.

Beatch, who says he plans to fly again, sprained his neck and has to wear a brace for about a month.

"I'm very thankful, very lucky, I didn't sustain any permanent or worse injuries than I did," Beatch said.
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Post by flyboeing »

every airline in canada is gonna remeber that name and black list, He's gonna have a tough time getting a job in a few years. Come on running out of fuel :roll: Even Air Canada won't want someone like that. What an idiot, its not like a car, you just can't pull over when you run out of gas and call AMA.
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Post by rejd »

Hey flyboeing, read the f#*cking posts, he did not run out of fuel!!!

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Was he / is he a cadet?
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