YTZ - commuting in the GTA

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CaptDukeNukem wrote: Sun Apr 30, 2023 7:35 am Not to encourage thread drift but I’m clearly missing something. What’s ERP?
Early Retirement Plan. It is an incentivized program to leave prior to age 63.

20 Jazz pilots per year are awarded.
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rudder wrote: Sun Apr 30, 2023 3:20 am
Inverted2 wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 9:45 pm Well hopefully he takes the ERP since he put in for it. It’s seniority based and if you reneg on it it kinda screws junior pilots who wanted it. I know of 2 who did such a thing last year. Total dick move.
You guys are posting in the wrong topic.

p.s. revised policy is that any ERP offer not consummated by June 30 (signing of irrevocable resignation) is replaced by the next bidder on the ERP list.
Hey, good luck rudder, if that’s what you want! Seems like it could be a fun semi-retirement gig.
I’m sure we’ll be parking the E175s soon anyway, since they are basically training for Porters operations.
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cdnavater wrote: Sun Apr 30, 2023 9:49 am
rudder wrote: Sun Apr 30, 2023 3:20 am
Inverted2 wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 9:45 pm Well hopefully he takes the ERP since he put in for it. It’s seniority based and if you reneg on it it kinda screws junior pilots who wanted it. I know of 2 who did such a thing last year. Total dick move.
You guys are posting in the wrong topic.

p.s. revised policy is that any ERP offer not consummated by June 30 (signing of irrevocable resignation) is replaced by the next bidder on the ERP list.
Hey, good luck rudder, if that’s what you want! Seems like it could be a fun semi-retirement gig.
I’m sure we’ll be parking the E175s soon anyway, since they are basically training for Porters operations.
is there a transition course between the E175s and the E2?
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kiaszceski wrote: Sun Apr 30, 2023 10:39 am is there a transition course between the E175s and the E2?
I would expect that Porter gives every pilot it puts on the E2 a full initial to PPC.
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rudder wrote: Sun Apr 30, 2023 9:10 am
CaptDukeNukem wrote: Sun Apr 30, 2023 7:35 am Not to encourage thread drift but I’m clearly missing something. What’s ERP?
Early Retirement Plan. It is an incentivized program to leave prior to age 63.

20 Jazz pilots per year are awarded.
Ahh yes. I heard of this. Okay thank you
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dontcallmeshirley wrote: Sun Apr 30, 2023 10:48 am
kiaszceski wrote: Sun Apr 30, 2023 10:39 am is there a transition course between the E175s and the E2?
I would expect that Porter gives every pilot it puts on the E2 a full initial to PPC.
Incorrect, first transition class starts tomorrow. 2 days groundschool, 2 ground trainers days, 4 sims then PPC and a LOFT.
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CaptDukeNukem wrote: Sun Apr 30, 2023 11:09 am Incorrect, first transition class starts tomorrow. 2 days groundschool, 2 ground trainers days, 4 sims then PPC and a LOFT.
I expect to be wrong again in the future more than once.

That's interesting to see. I figured that new airline plus new airplane equals an initial.
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dontcallmeshirley wrote: Sun Apr 30, 2023 11:11 am
CaptDukeNukem wrote: Sun Apr 30, 2023 11:09 am Incorrect, first transition class starts tomorrow. 2 days groundschool, 2 ground trainers days, 4 sims then PPC and a LOFT.
I expect to be wrong again in the future more than once.

That's interesting to see. I figured that new airline plus new airplane equals an initial.
Transport Canada approved the e2 as a common type to the e1. So technically is not a new airplane. It’s surprisingly similar and even the SOPs are roughly the same since both were derived from embraer manuals.

What’s more fascinating is how a 737-400 and a 737 max can be the same type.
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CaptDukeNukem wrote: Sun Apr 30, 2023 12:02 pm What’s more fascinating is how a 737-400 and a 737 max can be the same type.
Transport Canada defines three different type ratings for the 737.

737-100/200 73A

737-300/400/500 73B

737-600/700/800/8 73C

As none are in Canada, Transport Canada has not yet assigned a type rating for the -900, nor the -9, -10 and 8200. I imagine they will be 73C.

FAA defines them as one type, however they place Ops Specs restrictions on each airline as to what pilots can fly.
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Crewbunk wrote: Sun Apr 30, 2023 12:28 pm
CaptDukeNukem wrote: Sun Apr 30, 2023 12:02 pm What’s more fascinating is how a 737-400 and a 737 max can be the same type.
Transport Canada defines three different type ratings for the 737.

737-100/200 73A

737-300/400/500 73B

737-600/700/800/8 73C

As none are in Canada, Transport Canada has not yet assigned a type rating for the -900, nor the -9, -10 and 8200. I imagine they will be 73C.

FAA defines them as one type, however they place Ops Specs restrictions on each airline as to what pilots can fly.
I stand corrected. Cheers mate :)
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CaptDukeNukem wrote: Sun Apr 30, 2023 7:36 am
Inverted2 wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 9:30 pm And don’t drive a nice vehicle in there. If it doesn’t get stolen it’ll get damaged by the Fast & Furious maniac drivers or the CATSA gang who will give you lots of door dents when they aren’t following you to your car. :lol:
I park outside. Better for the suspension than going over 50 speed bumps and having to park on the roof anyway. Not to mention the idiots who drive 60 mph in a parkade.
Would just be nice if they didn’t close that ramp every winter leading to the elevators
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goleafsgo wrote: Sun Apr 30, 2023 1:22 pm
CaptDukeNukem wrote: Sun Apr 30, 2023 7:36 am
Inverted2 wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 9:30 pm And don’t drive a nice vehicle in there. If it doesn’t get stolen it’ll get damaged by the Fast & Furious maniac drivers or the CATSA gang who will give you lots of door dents when they aren’t following you to your car. :lol:
I park outside. Better for the suspension than going over 50 speed bumps and having to park on the roof anyway. Not to mention the idiots who drive 60 mph in a parkade.
Would just be nice if they didn’t close that ramp every winter leading to the elevators
There's a ramp from the second floor to the first floor that remains open year round.

That also saves you from the wait for the only two elevators that stop on #2.
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Re: YTZ - commuting in the GTA

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dontcallmeshirley wrote: Sun Apr 30, 2023 11:11 am
CaptDukeNukem wrote: Sun Apr 30, 2023 11:09 am Incorrect, first transition class starts tomorrow. 2 days groundschool, 2 ground trainers days, 4 sims then PPC and a LOFT.
I expect to be wrong again in the future more than once.

That's interesting to see. I figured that new airline plus new airplane equals an initial.
Transferable PPC are becoming more commonplace.

A pilot has the PPC, they just need to train to the operators SOP and then conduct another PPC ride under that SOP.
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itaserb and lowoleo22,

Thanks for the info on parking, pairings etc. 30hrs in your logbook??? 60-70hrs per month??? Is this all the flying after line indoc?
They still pay the min of 80 hrs though, right?
The three weeks of line indoc??? is done in three weeks or do they drag it on due to trainer availability?

Taking a leave from current work and not quitting till line indoc is done, hence the question.

Did training years ago up north that was to last a few weeks, but ended up three months worth as they never had staff.

Appreciate all the info though
Thank you so much.
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