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Agreement in Principle reached

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Fellow Pilots,

Following eight months of intense negotiations, your MEC is pleased to announce that the pilots have reached an Agreement in Principle (AIP) with WestJet on our second collective agreement.

Your Status Representatives voted by majority to accept this AIP and present it to the pilot group for a ratification vote. While disappointed that we were forced to apply negative commercial pressure to achieve our goals, we are incredibly proud of our pilot group and your exceptional displays of unity in firm support of our MEC and Negotiating Committee.



GREAT JOB WJMEC!!!
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Great job guys and gals. We were all watching and holding our collective breath. Hopefully you’ve set the bar high for all of us at other Canadian carriers. Congrats.
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Good job WJ MEC! Let’s see what the deal is-I’m very curious to know what they came up with!
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Congrats to most united pilot group in Canada. What a road it has been for you all. I hope this deal shows what unity can truly bring.

If it is the new industry standard. I'll be buying coffeees/drinks to all WJ pilots when I see them around the terminals.
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Congrats to all on reaching an agreement.
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Congrats! Happy for you all at WJ!!! I hope there are decent gains in QOL, Scheduling and Pay keeping in mind all members!

Waiting for the sinister trolls to comment in 3...2...1...
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Congratulations everyone.
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Just Listened to the latest PiREP Podcast… Never in a million years did I think I’d see a WestJet pilot wearing a uniform hat…. I’ll start taking wagers now, What are the odds it’s a cowboy hat? :mrgreen:

Proud of the WJA Pilot group!
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Let's not start celebrating until we know what the numbers are...
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That is a lot of information to share.

Good for you. Most Pilot leadership would have shared few details other than ‘gains were made’.

Good luck in the roadshow. Good luck in the member ratification vote.

Hopefully it will achieve the stated union goal of making WJ a career destination once again.
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rudder wrote: Fri May 19, 2023 5:13 am That is a lot of information to share.

Good for you. Most Pilot leadership would have shared few details other than ‘gains were made’.

Good luck in the roadshow. Good luck in the member ratification vote.

Hopefully it will achieve the stated union goal of making WJ a career destination once again.
They basically said that the reason why they voted in favour of this AIP is because the majority of them felt that this was a contract that would easily pass if sent to a vote.
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thepoors wrote: Fri May 19, 2023 5:10 am Let's not start celebrating until we know what the numbers are...
Agreed...
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If the members were to reject this, can they strike again in 72 hours if necessary?
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digits_ wrote: Fri May 19, 2023 6:14 am If the members were to reject this, can they strike again in 72 hours if necessary?
I believe so.

There will likely be a few days before actual details come out, followed by a couple of weeks of road-showing. This will allow pilots to become acquainted with the tentative agreement and cool off from the rhetoric of the past nine months.
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digits_ wrote: Fri May 19, 2023 6:14 am If the members were to reject this, can they strike again in 72 hours if necessary?
Technically, on 72 hours notice yes.

But make no mistake, the Feds had their hands all over this. They were on site. I am certain that they were suggesting to both sides what the alternative to an agreement might look like.

My guess is the Feds would just take the AIP and package it with legislation.
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Post negotiation podcast: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5_X-sRici8

Uploaded 3 hrs ago.
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rudder wrote: Fri May 19, 2023 6:20 am
digits_ wrote: Fri May 19, 2023 6:14 am If the members were to reject this, can they strike again in 72 hours if necessary?
Technically, on 72 hours notice yes.

But make no mistake, the Feds had their hands all over this. They were on site. I am certain that they were suggesting to both sides what the alternative to an agreement might look like.

My guess is the Feds would just take the AIP and package it with legislation.
I agree Rudder
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What was the pilot group expecting or least hoping to get? I'm curious before they release the real numbers
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Pussy’s, you caved. Trudeau would have you back to work by Monday anyway!
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a2btrail wrote: Fri May 19, 2023 6:22 am Post negotiation podcast: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5_X-sRici8

Uploaded 3 hrs ago.
Ooh, that does not sound good....

"We could have gotten nothing"

Focusing most time discussion compensation talking about a pension instead of salary gains.

Take home pay will go up (while dancing around the total compensation)

However,
400 million dollars over 4 years, on average 100 million per year.
1800 pilots, that would be 55 000 per pilot. That does sound promising. Although it depends on how they define the gains.

Very curious for all of you, hope it's worth it!


I don't understand the need for a roadshow though. Why not just send all members the proposed contract?
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UnionDrive wrote: Fri May 19, 2023 7:20 am Pussy’s, you caved. Trudeau would have you back to work by Monday anyway!
Lol,

One of the best increases I have ever seen in this industry. Great Job guys
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What we know so far:

One OC
ESP no match
Optional pension (language to acquire a target pension plan)
Increased pay rates
Time bank
Mixed reserve 16 days
New language grievance and arbitration
DH language with new priority codes
$40 hotel cancellation credit into a bank
Cancel a DH you can move it for a commute
Partial trip trades are back
No signing bonus
Retro pay to Jan 1 with new rates
400 million in new money over 4 years
Optional hat
Strike Signs can be purchased for a $40 donation to Ronald MacDonald House
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I hear mainline FO wages start at $105/hr. 70% of the gains went to first 5 steps of FO pay to increase attraction.
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