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Question about AC Staff Travel "Premium Bundle"

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Mornin'

I have a few question about the AC Employee travel site (Jazz pilot). As of now, I have 4 allotment left of the "Premium Bundle" , with priority "PY2/J12".

1. What does that mean? (PY2/J12)? What priority is PY2? I think J12 is just J class upgrade? Do we get J upgrades on this? The text is (J/O/Y) 4 0 4. I'm not sure what the "black/red/green" mean. I take it green is good, red is bad, but black? :)
2. If I book YYZ-YUL-FRA, will that use 1 or two allotments, or just one, considering it's the same booking?

I'm trying to find the info on the Employee travel site, but I can't. I know there was a memo about that at one point, but it's I don't remember explaining it.

Thanks for the help.
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RoAF-Mig21 wrote: Fri Jul 21, 2023 7:40 am Mornin'

I have a few question about the AC Employee travel site (Jazz pilot). As of now, I have 4 allotment left of the "Premium Bundle" , with priority "PY2/J12".

1. What does that mean? (PY2/J12)? What priority is PY2? I think J12 is just J class upgrade? Do we get J upgrades on this? The text is (J/O/Y) 4 0 4. I'm not sure what the "black/red/green" mean. I take it green is good, red is bad, but black? :)
2. If I book YYZ-YUL-FRA, will that use 1 or two allotments, or just one, considering it's the same booking?

I'm trying to find the info on the Employee travel site, but I can't. I know there was a memo about that at one point, but it's I don't remember explaining it.

Thanks for the help.
pY2 is premium economy upgradable. J is business class. So you have a seat that is upgradable to premium economy at priority level 2. And upgradable to business class (J class) at level 12. (So bottom of the list for that one)

The seats currently available is the 4/0/4

4 seats open the J
Zero seats open in o class…. Which is premium economy. (Some aircraft don’t even have this class)
Then Y is economy. So 4 open in economy.

If you book it all in one ticket, it will count as one allotment
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CaptDukeNukem wrote: Fri Jul 21, 2023 7:54 am pY2 is premium economy upgradable. J is business class. So you have a seat that is upgradable to premium economy at priority level 2. And upgradable to business class (J class) at level 12. (So bottom of the list for that one)

The seats currently available is the 4/0/4

4 seats open the J
Zero seats open in o class…. Which is premium economy. (Some aircraft don’t even have this class)
Then Y is economy. So 4 open in economy.

If you book it all in one ticket, it will count as one allotment
Thanks for the help.

The 4/0/4 I was reffering to, is not the seat availability when you book a flight (Ex AC880). The 4/0/4 is under "My Profile", "Premium Bundle", "Status|Used|Remaining". So I get I have used 0 and 4 are remaining, but I'm not sure what that "Status 4" means. (Sorry hard to explain). I think I may have confused people by writing "(J/O/Y. Bussiness, Premium Econ and Econ)


Thanks again for the clarification.

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RoAF-Mig21 wrote: Fri Jul 21, 2023 7:40 am 1. What does that mean? (PY2/J12)? What priority is PY2? I think J12 is just J class upgrade? Do we get J upgrades on this?
P is positive space, Y in economy. Disregard the 2, it’s just for accounting, and is not a priority ranking. /J indicates, you will be upgraded to J (or O) space available. Disregard the 12, again, it’s just used for accounting.

So, PY2/J12 is positive space in Economy, space available in J (or O).
2. If I book YYZ-YUL-FRA, will that use 1 or two allotments, or just one, considering it's the same booking?
You are allowed enroute stops on one allotment. In fact, it is the same one allotment until you return to (or overfly) the starting point. So, YYZ-YUL-FRA-YUL-YYZ is one allotment.

Status 4, is your allotment status. Namely, how many you are starting with.
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Crewbunk wrote: Fri Jul 21, 2023 9:04 am
RoAF-Mig21 wrote: Fri Jul 21, 2023 7:40 am 1. What does that mean? (PY2/J12)? What priority is PY2? I think J12 is just J class upgrade? Do we get J upgrades on this?
P is positive space, Y in economy. Disregard the 2, it’s just for accounting, and is not a priority ranking. /J indicates, you will be upgraded to J (or O) space available. Disregard the 12, again, it’s just used for accounting.

So, PY2/J12 is positive space in Economy, space available in J (or O).
2. If I book YYZ-YUL-FRA, will that use 1 or two allotments, or just one, considering it's the same booking?
You are allowed enroute stops on one allotment. In fact, it is the same one allotment until you return to (or overfly) the starting point. So, YYZ-YUL-FRA-YUL-YYZ is one allotment.

Status 4, is your allotment status. Namely, how many you are starting with.
Thank you Crewbunk. Much appreciated.
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Crewbunk wrote: Fri Jul 21, 2023 9:04 am
RoAF-Mig21 wrote: Fri Jul 21, 2023 7:40 am 1. What does that mean? (PY2/J12)? What priority is PY2? I think J12 is just J class upgrade? Do we get J upgrades on this?
P is positive space, Y in economy. Disregard the 2, it’s just for accounting, and is not a priority ranking. /J indicates, you will be upgraded to J (or O) space available. Disregard the 12, again, it’s just used for accounting.

So, PY2/J12 is positive space in Economy, space available in J (or O).
2. If I book YYZ-YUL-FRA, will that use 1 or two allotments, or just one, considering it's the same booking?
You are allowed enroute stops on one allotment. In fact, it is the same one allotment until you return (or overfly) the starting point. So, YYZ-YUL-FRA-YUL-YYZ is one allotment.

Status 4, is your allotment status. Namely, how many you are starting with.
P = POS
Y = economy
2 = PY priority (1-5?)
J = J upgrade available
12 = J upgrade priority (1-19?)
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Crewbunk wrote: Fri Jul 21, 2023 9:04 am
RoAF-Mig21 wrote: Fri Jul 21, 2023 7:40 am 1. What does that mean? (PY2/J12)? What priority is PY2? I think J12 is just J class upgrade? Do we get J upgrades on this?
P is positive space, Y in economy. Disregard the 2, it’s just for accounting, and is not a priority ranking. /J indicates, you will be upgraded to J (or O) space available. Disregard the 12, again, it’s just used for accounting.

So, PY2/J12 is positive space in Economy, space available in J (or O).
2. If I book YYZ-YUL-FRA, will that use 1 or two allotments, or just one, considering it's the same booking?
You are allowed enroute stops on one allotment. In fact, it is the same one allotment until you return to (or overfly) the starting point. So, YYZ-YUL-FRA-YUL-YYZ is one allotment.

Status 4, is your allotment status. Namely, how many you are starting with.
The 2 in PY2 is a priority ranking, not an accounting code. While it is less relevant for positive space travel, a PY2 would be deplaned before a PY1 in the event of downguage or oversell. Same as priority B1 trumps a C1 which trumps a C2 which trumps a C4, etc etc. The /J means upgradeable to Business, and yes the 12 after that is just an accounting code.

As for the 4/0/4 with Status/Used/Remaining, I think it’s just that. You’ve been allotted 4, used 0, and have 4 remaining.
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Crewbunk wrote: Fri Jul 21, 2023 9:04 am
RoAF-Mig21 wrote: Fri Jul 21, 2023 7:40 am 1. What does that mean? (PY2/J12)? What priority is PY2? I think J12 is just J class upgrade? Do we get J upgrades on this?
P is positive space, Y in economy. Disregard the 2, it’s just for accounting, and is not a priority ranking. /J indicates, you will be upgraded to J (or O) space available. Disregard the 12, again, it’s just used for accounting.

So, PY2/J12 is positive space in Economy, space available in J (or O).
2. If I book YYZ-YUL-FRA, will that use 1 or two allotments, or just one, considering it's the same booking?
You are allowed enroute stops on one allotment. In fact, it is the same one allotment until you return to (or overfly) the starting point. So, YYZ-YUL-FRA-YUL-YYZ is one allotment.

Status 4, is your allotment status. Namely, how many you are starting with.
Thanks for the clarification :)
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Dash.Trash wrote: Fri Jul 21, 2023 9:38 am The 2 in PY2 is a priority ranking, not an accounting code. While it is less relevant for positive space travel, a PY2 would be deplaned before a PY1 in the event of downguage or oversell. Same as priority B1 trumps a C1 which trumps a C2 which trumps a C4, etc etc.
This is somewhat incorrect. (It’s in ACPedia if you want to check it out.)

Technically the number following the first class of travel is the internal rule, under which that priority was granted.

You are right about the C1 higher than a C2, but I really didn’t want to get into the A, B, C1, C2, C3, C4, D, etc as that didn’t apply in this case.

But, the passenger holding a PY/J20 does not have a lower priority for J than one holding a C1/J01. That’s where it gets tricky. The 01 vs the 20 in this case does not indicate priority. For example, I have some PJA passes. No “priority” indicated.

In answer to the OP’s question, P indicates he is confirmed. Y indicates in what cabin he is confirmed and /J indicates he will be upgraded to J (or O) if there is space available.

Bottom line though, is when you list under a certain priority, you are automatically stacked and you just have to trust the computer to board everyone in the correct order.
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Crewbunk wrote: Fri Jul 21, 2023 10:35 am
Dash.Trash wrote: Fri Jul 21, 2023 9:38 am The 2 in PY2 is a priority ranking, not an accounting code. While it is less relevant for positive space travel, a PY2 would be deplaned before a PY1 in the event of downguage or oversell. Same as priority B1 trumps a C1 which trumps a C2 which trumps a C4, etc etc.
This is somewhat incorrect. (It’s in ACPedia if you want to check it out.)

Technically the number following the first class of travel is the internal rule, under which that priority was granted.

You are right about the C1 higher than a C2, but I really didn’t want to get into the A, B, C1, C2, C3, C4, D, etc as that didn’t apply in this case.

But, the passenger holding a PY/J20 does not have a lower priority for J than one holding a C1/J01. That’s where it gets tricky. The 01 vs the 20 in this case does not indicate priority. For example, I have some PJA passes. No “priority” indicated.

In answer to the OP’s question, P indicates he is confirmed. Y indicates in what cabin he is confirmed and /J indicates he will be upgraded to J (or O) if there is space available.

Bottom line though, is when you list under a certain priority, you are automatically stacked and you just have to trust the computer to board everyone in the correct order.
Again, you’re confusing the number after the / with the number before.

A PY1/JXX will be upgraded before a PY2/JXX because it’s a higher priority.
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