daedalusx wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 1:13 pm
pseudovector wrote: ↑Thu Aug 10, 2023 12:43 pm
daedalusx wrote: ↑Tue Aug 08, 2023 8:54 pm
The solution is simple. Stop accepting the current AC offer.
As long as AC fills up every single GS with hundreds of pilots on flat pay then how much leverage do you really have ?
But because muh seniority number and muh pension and muh career progression, we have pilots crawling naked over broken glass to beg to fly a 777 for 65$ an hour.
The premise underpinning the suggestion that individuals should not come here and grab the earliest seniority number possible for themselves in order to improve working conditions for pilots currently here is beyond ludicrous. Same for hoping people leave for greener pastures in order to put a ‘supply squeeze’ on our employer. If you’re here, are YOU willing to leave for the USA?! Why did YOU come here?
If this was real frontline combat people saying crap like that would be the ones barking orders from the rear echelon.
As Air Canada pilots we need to stop dissing hard-working colleagues and predecessors. Check your emotions at the door the same way you do when flying a dark and dirty approach to a marginal runway on minimum fuel. Work with the tools you have.
Posters like Fanblade have it absolutely right. Pay attention to what he writes. Stop hoping/wishing for someone else to do your heavy lifting. Be part of the effort to act like a union. Do so quietly and assertively.
And while you’re at it, remember the first rule of Fight Club.
You’re wrong. By accepting an unliveable wage in the hope on improving it down the road leads to ridiculous working conditions like those poor schmucks over at Jazz locked in their 17 year contract.
Porter was able to offer *significant* wage improvements that makes AC flat play look like the absolute shame that it is and they’ve done it without muh union and muh negots committee and muh ALPA ressources, simply because there is an actual shortage of competent drivers and they want to attract them.
So I guess none of us should have ever applied here, ever. Right. Got it. Muh bad.
Suggesting that individuals playing the long career game by applying to AC are the cause of where we find ourselves is beyond ludicrous and is an embarrassment to you. Apparently you may not have enough self-awareness to comprehend that though.
Yes, flat pay is a travesty. Our WAWCON are a joke. Other employers are taking a more proactive approach to recruitment. There’s no disputing any of that. Those are cold, hard facts. But whining won’t change them.
Your prospective ‘solution’ is the equivalent of suggesting that we resign en masse to create a staffing crunch. Asking others to do what you would not be willing to do is beyond the pale. It’s easy to shoot someone else’s foot off. Why don’t you take aim at your own and see if you can pull the trigger?
In the meantime, muh preference is acknowledging the facts and then doing muh best to lead from the front of the pack with the tools I have. Fortunately for you there are many alongside me, many of them relatively new hires who bring a wealth of experience and perspective from working for other carriers. They’re simply invaluable in helping drive long-overdue change here.
So hang on to the rope at the very back and watch. But be careful not to spill your cup of tea or dirty your boots while you rail at people (from the safety of your soapbox) for applying to work here.
