Pay at PAL Airlines - September 1, 2023

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Pay at PAL Airlines - September 1, 2023

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New Hourly Rates as of September 1, 2023

Dash 8 Q400 First Officer Salary / hour
[80 hour Credit - includes 2 hrs GS credit per month]
1. $51.02 [ $48,979 - year ]
2. $53.44 [ $51,302 - year ]
3. $55.86 [ $53,626 - year ]
4. $58.27 [ $55,939 - year ]
5. $60.69 [ $58,262 - year ]
6. $63.11 [ $60,586 - year ]
7. $65.53 [ $62,909 - year ]
8. $67.95 [ $65,232 - year ]
9. $71.78 [ $68,909 - year ]
10. $75.83 [ $72,797 - year ]

Dash 8 Q400 Captain Salary / hour
[80 hour Credit - includes 2 hrs GS credit per month]
1. $94.39 [ $90,614 - year ]
2. $96.85 [ $92,976 - year ]
3. $99.31 [ $95,338 - year ]
4. $101.77 [ $97,699 - year ]
5. $104.23 [ $100,061 - year ]
6.$106.69 [ $102,422 - year ]
7. $109.16 [ $104,794 - year ]
8. $111.62 [ $107,155 - year ]
9. $114.09 [ $109,526 - year ]
10. $116.55 [ $111,888 - year ]
11. $119.01 [ $114,250 - year ]
12. $121.48 [ $116,621 - year ]
13. $124.11 [ $119,146 - year ]
14. $125.40 [ $120,384 - year ]
15. $126.70 [ $121,632 - year ]
16.$128.01 [ $122,890 - year ]

​​​​​​​Dash 8 100/300 First Officer Salary / hour
[80 hour Credit - includes 2 hrs GS credit per month]
1. $49.92 [ $47,923 - year ]
2. $52.34 [ $50,246 - year ]
3. $54.75 [ $52,560 - year ]
4. $57.17 [ $54,883 - year ]
5. $59.59 [ $57,206 - year ]
6. $62.00 [ $59,520 - year ]
7. $64.42 [ $61,843 - year ]
8. $66.84 [ $64,166 - year ]
9. $70.68 [ $67,853 - year ]
10. $74.73 [ $71,741 - year ]

Dash 8 100/300 Captain Salary / hour
[80 hour Credit - includes 2 hrs GS credit per month]
1. $87.02 [ $83,539 - year ]
2. $89.48 [ $85,901 - year ]
3. $91.93 [ $88,253 - year ]
4. $94.39 [ $90,614 - year ]
5. $96.85 [ $92,976 - year ]
6. $99.31 [ $95,338 - year ]
7. $101.77 [ $97,699 - year ]
8. $104.23 [ $100,061 - year ]
9. $106.69 [ $102,422 - year ]
10. $109.16 [ $104,794 - year ]
11. $111.62 [ $107,155 - year ]
12. $114.09 [ $109,526 - year ]
13. $116.55 [ $111,888 - year ]
14. $119.01 [ $114,250 - year ]
15. $121.48 [ $116,621 - year ]
16. $124.11 [ $119,146 - year ]
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Pilots are scheduled to 78 hours and receive 2 hours credit for online ground school each month.
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Re: Pay at PAL Airlines - September 1, 2023

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Still well shy of Porter’s Q4 rates. But congrats! Should be able to retain a few more this way.
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The top scale Captain pay is still well shy of Jazz (which is pretty sad) not to mention fewer perks and no pension. The raccoon would give me $25k plus carry over years of service as well.
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There is a pension at PAL
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NovaBoy wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2023 1:30 pm There is a pension at PAL
I wouldn’t call 4% RRSP match a pension!
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Laughable actually.
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NovaBoy wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2023 1:30 pm There is a pension at PAL
Better than most 604’s but we aren’t talking about a 604 op here…

I’d be embarrassed ro fly a -12 or a 350 at that rate. A Q400?

You all need to give your head a shake.

The market has changed and so few ops have followed the trend.

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It’s just the yearly updated payscale as per the CBA. Weird thing for them to flex about online.

https://negotech.service.canada.ca/eng/ ... 19001a.pdf
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They think they’ll get and/or keep pilots with that shit pay? C’mon :rolleyes:
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The lure of a YHZ base is what they are hoping for I reckon.
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NovaBoy wrote: Tue Aug 15, 2023 4:13 pm The lure of a YHZ base is what they are hoping for I reckon.
Porter has a YHZ base. Not sure why anyone in YHZ would pick PAL to pay them $15k less.
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I’m told YHZ at Porter is pretty senior, if you can get direct left seat in YHZ that would be pretty sweet
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NovaBoy wrote: Wed Aug 16, 2023 12:25 pm I’m told YHZ at Porter is pretty senior, if you can get direct left seat in YHZ that would be pretty sweet

With the amount of senior guys moving to the EMB, might not be out of reach shortly.
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NovaBoy wrote: Mon Aug 14, 2023 1:30 pm There is a pension at PAL
It's 0% at year 0-2.
I dont really want to wait 2yrs before getting 4%/4% matching (6%/6% at yr10).
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Hey, I never said it was a good one. If you don’t like it, don’t apply. There’s always JAZZ. 😉
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NovaBoy wrote: Sun Aug 20, 2023 5:18 pm Hey, I never said it was a good one. If you don’t like it, don’t apply. There’s always JAZZ. 😉
I guess? Jazz is potentially getting a 20% raise. 💁‍♂️
viewtopic.php?p=1272787#p1272787

I feel like Porter would be the first choice though.
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