Are there a lot of shills at Transat?

[ShillBill]

Bonjour à tous,

I am weighing my career options but am scared to be at an airline full of shills

We have seen how shilling has worked at other airlines and they are now among the worst paid pilots on the planet

My question is, is it likely Air Transat pilots will get their collective butts together or are they going to shill it to the bottom because they have great golf tournaments with management

I see AC pilots revolted and joined ALPA so there is hope there at least. Just concerned about some of the comments from les pilotes de Air Transat

Would love to stay home in Montréal but would move if necessary. Maybe the US, just looking at getting my greencard...

Merci

[Mooney21]

Troll

[thepoors]

Bonjour à tous,

I am weighing my career options but am scared to be at an airline full of shills

We have seen how shilling has worked at other airlines and they are now among the worst paid pilots on the planet

My question is, is it likely Air Transat pilots will get their collective butts together or are they going to shill it to the bottom because they have great golf tournaments with management

I see AC pilots revolted and joined ALPA so there is hope there at least. Just concerned about some of the comments from les pilotes de Air Transat

Would love to stay home in Montréal but would move if necessary. Maybe the US, just looking at getting my greencard...

Merci

Just go look at the recent post about the bond...there's guys on there defending it to the death. Not a good look.

[CaptDukeNukem]

Bonjour à tous,

I am weighing my career options but am scared to be at an airline full of shills

We have seen how shilling has worked at other airlines and they are now among the worst paid pilots on the planet

My question is, is it likely Air Transat pilots will get their collective butts together or are they going to shill it to the bottom because they have great golf tournaments with management

I see AC pilots revolted and joined ALPA so there is hope there at least. Just concerned about some of the comments from les pilotes de Air Transat

Would love to stay home in Montréal but would move if necessary. Maybe the US, just looking at getting my greencard...

Merci

Get the green card. Actually get all colours. As many cards as you can get.

[ShillBill]

I'm only familiar with "green" because I'm looking for greenbacks

Also not looking for excuses like "we will get'em next time"

Looking for a good pilot group with a good union

[Blueontop]

I'm only familiar with "green" because I'm looking for greenbacks

Also not looking for excuses like "we will get'em next time"

Looking for a good pilot group with a good union

This might be one of the best responses I ever read on avcanada

[DanWEC]

Just go look at the recent post about the bond...there's guys on there defending it to the death. Not a good look.

Who? Provide a post where anyone not only agrees with the bond, but is also vehemently defending it, so vigorously as you state "to the death". You said it, so back it up.

I'll wait.... but we all know that doesn't exist and you're just typing to hear yourself.

Nobody agrees with it. Anyways, this entire thread is the lowest common denominator started by someone with a real internet dissociative personality disorder. I'm not going to wallow in this. Back to trying to find meaningful, professional discussion on here- which is almost impossible these days.

[Canadaflyer46]

I was shocked reading the other AT thread. A bond, at an airline of this size, to fly a heavy?! Embarassing. Even Encore doesn't have a bond, and they've lost half their pilots in the last couple of years! Amazing ALPA condones it.

[thepoors]

Just go look at the recent post about the bond...there's guys on there defending it to the death. Not a good look.

Who? Provide a post where anyone not only agrees with the bond, but is also vehemently defending it, so vigorously as you state "to the death". You said it, so back it up.

I'll wait.... but we all know that doesn't exist and you're just typing to hear yourself.

Nobody agrees with it. Anyways, this entire thread is the lowest common denominator started by someone with a real internet dissociative personality disorder. I'm not going to wallow in this. Back to trying to find meaningful, professional discussion on here- which is almost impossible these days.

Go read TFTMheavy and 330heavy's comments. I'm not going to spell it out for you.

They are defending the bond at every opportunity and saying it would be a mistake to get rid of it. Not to mention talking up their shit "WB pay scale".

[TFTMB heavy]

Just go look at the recent post about the bond...there's guys on there defending it to the death. Not a good look.

Who? Provide a post where anyone not only agrees with the bond, but is also vehemently defending it, so vigorously as you state "to the death". You said it, so back it up.

I'll wait.... but we all know that doesn't exist and you're just typing to hear yourself.

Nobody agrees with it. Anyways, this entire thread is the lowest common denominator started by someone with a real internet dissociative personality disorder. I'm not going to wallow in this. Back to trying to find meaningful, professional discussion on here- which is almost impossible these days.

Go read TFTMheavy and 330heavy's comments. I'm not going to spell it out for you.

They are defending the bond at every opportunity and saying it would be a mistake to get rid of it. Not to mention talking up their shit "WB pay scale".

Your reading comprehension needs some work. Never did I defend the bond, I simply explained how management is handcuffed right now. If you can explain to me what doesn’t make sense to you in my argument I’ll dumb it down and explain it again.

[Blueontop]

Who? Provide a post where anyone not only agrees with the bond, but is also vehemently defending it, so vigorously as you state "to the death". You said it, so back it up.

I'll wait.... but we all know that doesn't exist and you're just typing to hear yourself.

Nobody agrees with it. Anyways, this entire thread is the lowest common denominator started by someone with a real internet dissociative personality disorder. I'm not going to wallow in this. Back to trying to find meaningful, professional discussion on here- which is almost impossible these days.

Go read TFTMheavy and 330heavy's comments. I'm not going to spell it out for you.

They are defending the bond at every opportunity and saying it would be a mistake to get rid of it. Not to mention talking up their shit "WB pay scale".

Your reading comprehension needs some work. Never did I defend the bond, I simply explained how management is handcuffed right now. If you can explain to me what doesn’t make sense to you in my argument I’ll dumb it down and explain it again.

That’s literally defending management and their bond.
Stockholm syndrome much

[330heavy]

Literally thepoors trolling on yet another handle. The more he and others whine about it, the more I see the benefit of it, keeping the poor attitude "pilots" away. Please drone on about it some more.

I was shocked reading the other AT thread. A bond, at an airline of this size, to fly a heavy?! Embarassing. Even Encore doesn't have a bond, and they've lost half their pilots in the last couple of years! Amazing ALPA condones it.

Great Encore doesn't have a bond, enjoy your career there.

[TFTMB heavy]

Go read TFTMheavy and 330heavy's comments. I'm not going to spell it out for you.

They are defending the bond at every opportunity and saying it would be a mistake to get rid of it. Not to mention talking up their shit "WB pay scale".

Your reading comprehension needs some work. Never did I defend the bond, I simply explained how management is handcuffed right now. If you can explain to me what doesn’t make sense to you in my argument I’ll dumb it down and explain it again.

That’s literally defending management and their bond.
Stockholm syndrome much

Another genius.

[FelixGustof]

Is there a single Widebody carrier in North America that bonds you like an indentured servant?

Is Transit like a penal colony for pilots?

[thepoops]

Are there are a lot management shills at Air Canada?

Crazy how there are pilots out there will go out of their way to harm other pilots

Yes there does seem to be at transat

[TG]

I was shocked reading the other AT thread. A bond, at an airline of this size, to fly a heavy?! Embarassing. Even Encore doesn't have a bond, and they've lost half their pilots in the last couple of years! Amazing ALPA condones it.

Even more embarrassing is the starting pay at Air Canada
But I recon they do play catch up afterward.

[apetogetherstrong]

I was shocked reading the other AT thread. A bond, at an airline of this size, to fly a heavy?! Embarassing. Even Encore doesn't have a bond, and they've lost half their pilots in the last couple of years! Amazing ALPA condones it.

Even more embarrassing is the starting pay at Air Canada
But I recon they do play catch up afterward.

At least AC doesn't bond, ACPA deserves credit for ensuring that. ALPA on the other hand endorses bonds!

[thepoops]

AC pay is shit, but it's better there. I think you maybe right about ACPA

[Tbayer2021]

I don't agree with the bond anyway its spun. But you guys are delusional if you think ACPA ever spent any negotiating capital staving off a bond. AC knows no one (yes there are odd exceptions) leaves them, so no need for a bond.

[thepoors]

Literally thepoors trolling on yet another handle. The more he and others whine about it, the more I see the benefit of it, keeping the poor attitude "pilots" away. Please drone on about it some more.

Advocating for better wawcon and calling out ridiculous bonds = trolling.

Licking management boots and making excuses for shit wawcon = "having a good attitude."

Good to know where you stand. This must be that great company (cult)ure at AT.

[renelevesque]

Literally thepoors trolling on yet another handle. The more he and others whine about it, the more I see the benefit of it, keeping the poor attitude "pilots" away. Please drone on about it some more.

Advocating for better wawcon and calling out ridiculous bonds = trolling.

Licking management boots and making excuses for shit wawcon = "having a good attitude."

Good to know where you stand. This must be that great company (cult)ure at AT.

Stockholm Syndrome & Egos

Totally counterproductive to raising this profession's abysmal performance

I mean name one widebody carrier with a training bond?

[FL320]

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[FL320]

Literally thepoors trolling on yet another handle. The more he and others whine about it, the more I see the benefit of it, keeping the poor attitude "pilots" away. Please drone on about it some more.

Advocating for better wawcon and calling out ridiculous bonds = trolling.

Licking management boots and making excuses for shit wawcon = "having a good attitude."

Good to know where you stand. This must be that great company (cult)ure at AT.

Stockholm Syndrome & Egos

Totally counterproductive to raising this profession's abysmal performance

I mean name one widebody carrier with a training bond?

Emirates (and 1st year FO’s paycheck shows more than an Air Canada widebody Captain)

Signing a bond or prostituting yourself to join Air Canada and be the lowest paid B777 pilots on the planet in Canadian monkey $, wonder what’s best. Even Ethiopian pays better.

[thepoops]

Advocating for better wawcon and calling out ridiculous bonds = trolling.

Licking management boots and making excuses for shit wawcon = "having a good attitude."

Good to know where you stand. This must be that great company (cult)ure at AT.

Stockholm Syndrome & Egos

Totally counterproductive to raising this profession's abysmal performance

I mean name one widebody carrier with a training bond?

Emirates (and 1st year FO’s paycheck shows more than an Air Canada widebody Captain)

Emirates doesn't count, that's like comparing apples to oranges. Now, name one widebody carrier in Canada that has a bond?

[TFTMB heavy]

Stockholm Syndrome & Egos

Totally counterproductive to raising this profession's abysmal performance

I mean name one widebody carrier with a training bond?

Emirates (and 1st year FO’s paycheck shows more than an Air Canada widebody Captain)

Emirates doesn't count, that's like comparing apples to oranges. Now, name one widebody carrier in Canada that has a bond?

It's so pathetic the way you just switch accounts and spam all the forums. Go get some sunlight, I bet your vitamin D deficient.