Realistic requirements?

[PittBoss]

What is the flight time I should be aiming for before applying for AC?

Currently I stand at 2000hrs with ATPL.

[A310Heavy]

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[CPU2000]

What is the flight time I should be aiming for before applying for AC?

Currently I stand at 2000hrs with ATPL.

Do you have a pulse?

[PittBoss]

What is the flight time I should be aiming for before applying for AC?

Currently I stand at 2000hrs with ATPL.

Do you have a pulse?

What do you mean?

[CPU2000]

What is the flight time I should be aiming for before applying for AC?

Currently I stand at 2000hrs with ATPL.

Do you have a pulse?

What do you mean?

Do you have a pulse?

Yes/No

Yes means you will be welcomed to the lowest paying Legacy carrier on the planet because the CEO says you should just be happy to be here because AC has widebodies & good destinations

Basically pilots here are Flight Attendants that sit in the front of the plane

[Man_in_the_sky]

Do you have a pulse?

What do you mean?

Do you have a pulse?

Yes/No

Yes means you will be welcomed to the lowest paying Legacy carrier on the planet because the CEO says you should just be happy to be here because AC has widebodies & good destinations

Basically pilots here are Flight Attendants that sit in the front of the plane

Ouch

[canadian_aviator_4]

As long as you are not employed by jazz, then yes. You are a very strong candidate.

[PittBoss]

As long as you are not employed by jazz, then yes. You are a very strong candidate.

Why is that? They don't like Jazz pilots?

[cdnavater]

As long as you are not employed by jazz, then yes. You are a very strong candidate.

Why is that? They don't like Jazz pilots?

No PittBoss, canadaian_aviator_4 is an angry ex-Jazz pilot who didn’t flow as expected because Jazz and AC were not honouring the contract for flow.
They would probably prefer to hire Jazz pilots if it didn’t impact the operation because the training that Jazz pilots receive is at a high level and they also operate under basically the same operating environment, makes the transition easier.

[CaptDukeNukem]

As long as you are not employed by jazz, then yes. You are a very strong candidate.

Why is that? They don't like Jazz pilots?

No PittBoss, canadaian_aviator_4 is an angry ex-Jazz pilot who didn’t flow as expected because Jazz and AC were not honouring the contract for flow.
They would probably prefer to hire Jazz pilots if it didn’t impact the operation because the training that Jazz pilots receive is at a high level and they also operate under basically the same operating environment, makes the transition easier.

Lol. You and I have had battles on here. But the longer what I call the “jazz morale draining event” lasts, the more, as you quote “angry ex-jazz pilots who didn’t flow” leave jazz and find better “suitable accommodations” for their lives, the more I question how jazz even survives in today’s pilot environment

[CaptDukeNukem]

Also, pretty sure other airlines give “high level” training. If you’re talking about the 4 day CRM toolbox course then yes, jazz is number 1 for that. Does it come with wings and beer at the wheatsheaf?

[cdnavater]

Also, pretty sure other airlines give “high level” training. If you’re talking about the 4 day CRM toolbox course then yes, jazz is number 1 for that. Does it come with wings and beer at the wheatsheaf?

Well considering transport Canada has told a couple other airlines to get their shit together and suggested they contact our training department to help them, I’m going to say it’s a high level of training. Try not to be offended that our training department has been modelled at other companies.
For what it’s worth, CRM or lack of it has been a contributing factor for many accidents.

[CaptDukeNukem]

Also, pretty sure other airlines give “high level” training. If you’re talking about the 4 day CRM toolbox course then yes, jazz is number 1 for that. Does it come with wings and beer at the wheatsheaf?

Well considering transport Canada has told a couple other airlines to get their shit together and suggested they contact our training department to help them, I’m going to say it’s a high level of training. Try not to be offended that our training department has been modelled at other companies.
For what it’s worth, CRM or lack of it has been a contributing factor for many accidents.

Jazz still has enough of a training department to help other airlines?

[cdnavater]

Also, pretty sure other airlines give “high level” training. If you’re talking about the 4 day CRM toolbox course then yes, jazz is number 1 for that. Does it come with wings and beer at the wheatsheaf?

Well considering transport Canada has told a couple other airlines to get their shit together and suggested they contact our training department to help them, I’m going to say it’s a high level of training. Try not to be offended that our training department has been modelled at other companies.
For what it’s worth, CRM or lack of it has been a contributing factor for many accidents.

Jazz still has enough of a training department to help other airlines?

Yes, it starts at the top, we have some pretty smart people who run it and they don’t take everyone that applies despite being short staffed.
I’ll admit that lately I have had a few training difficulties because another instructor interpreted the AOM a different way but that’s what we do, we catch these things and correct them.
It’s our curriculum and methods they wanted modelled but I’m sure you got that point and just took your opportunity to take a jab at Jazz.

[pilot96140]

What is the flight time I should be aiming for before applying for AC?

Currently I stand at 2000hrs with ATPL.

I’d say apply and see what happens. Depending on what your experience is in that 2000 hours will determine how quickly you get called. 2000 hours, ATPL with jet time would get a call pretty quick. Turbine is probably just as competitive now a days

[TalkingPie]

I speak with a lot of Air Canada pilots. 2,000 hour ATPL is apparently common for new hires now, although of course there are still guys with higher time coming in. Recently I've been told that 2,000 hours and medevac time could get you in the door.

[tupues]

I speak with a lot of Air Canada pilots. 2,000 hour ATPL is apparently common for new hires now, although of course there are still guys with higher time coming in. Recently I've been told that 2,000 hours and medevac time could get you in the door.

A guy on a recent course had never flown a multi-engine… now he’s in the 777…

[CaptDukeNukem]

I speak with a lot of Air Canada pilots. 2,000 hour ATPL is apparently common for new hires now, although of course there are still guys with higher time coming in. Recently I've been told that 2,000 hours and medevac time could get you in the door.

A guy on a recent course had never flown a multi-engine… now he’s in the 777…

Well he probably had to fly a multi to get his ME-IFR. But I get your point