Management pressure: 2 Pilots YYC - FRA?

[JackLeCoq]

What is going on with this place?

Chief pilots pressuring pilots to fly with 2 pilots to Europe despite having it in the collective agreement you need augment

A data leak so you can't even use a RAIC for priority lines while watching a new hire Flight Attendant do it

Company denying there is a pilot shortage as they pull out of routes and watch foreign competitors take over

Who is running this circus?

Tabarnac

[TeePeeCreeper]

What is going on with this place?

Chief pilots pressuring pilots to fly with 2 pilots to Europe despite having it in the collective agreement you need augment

A data leak so you can't even use a RAIC for priority lines while watching a new hire Flight Attendant do it

Company denying there is a pilot shortage as they pull out of routes and watch foreign competitors take over

Who is running this circus?

Tabarnac

Mon beau Jack,

T’es un véritable brasseur de marde!

J’ai aucun problème avec un shit disturber mais tu donne l’impression/une mauvaise parure quand tu parle comme ça. Le besoin de sacré, bien correct mais je trouve ton message perdu grasse à ca.

Ajoute donc un petit peu de savoir vivre mon chef.

(Disclaimer, if you didn’t understand what was written above your a fucking troll pretending to be a Francophone by using a swear word to sign off. Either way, it’s unacceptable as far as I am concerned)

[Torontomaplelaughs]

Unfortunately all the info above is verified by union emails

Company pressured 2 pilots to go to Europe despite contravention to the contract

Company also gave away personal information to hackers making RAICs compromised

[digits_]

Company also gave away personal information to hackers making RAICs compromised

How does one compromise a RAIC?

Seems weird a 3rd party company (Air Canada) would be able to compromise the RAIC system.

[fish4life]

Company also gave away personal information to hackers making RAICs compromised

How does one compromise a RAIC?

Seems weird a 3rd party company (Air Canada) would be able to compromise the RAIC system.

It’s been a big pain in the ass, need to show a pilots license in some spots can’t use verified traveller in others

https://financialpost.com/technology/ai ... loyee-data

[The Raven]

Unfortunately all the info above is verified by union emails

Company pressured 2 pilots to go to Europe despite contravention to the contract

Company also gave away personal information to hackers making RAICs compromised

2 pilots to Europe? That’s terrible! How did I do it for 37 years? Snowflakes.

[Hangry]

Unfortunately all the info above is verified by union emails

Company pressured 2 pilots to go to Europe despite contravention to the contract

Company also gave away personal information to hackers making RAICs compromised

2 pilots to Europe? That’s terrible! How did I do it for 37 years? Snowflakes.

Boomers gonna boom.

[Tbayer2021]

Unfortunately all the info above is verified by union emails

Company pressured 2 pilots to go to Europe despite contravention to the contract

Company also gave away personal information to hackers making RAICs compromised

2 pilots to Europe? That’s terrible! How did I do it for 37 years? Snowflakes.

Same way you guys had a much higher incident and accident rate for most of those 37 years.

[digits_]

Company also gave away personal information to hackers making RAICs compromised

How does one compromise a RAIC?

Seems weird a 3rd party company (Air Canada) would be able to compromise the RAIC system.

It’s been a big pain in the ass, need to show a pilots license in some spots can’t use verified traveller in others

https://financialpost.com/technology/ai ... loyee-data

Do you have more information how that would affect the RAIC system? It seems weird to me that a government would allow a company to store data that could take down one of its security systems.

[FNGYYZ]

Unfortunately all the info above is verified by union emails

Company pressured 2 pilots to go to Europe despite contravention to the contract

Company also gave away personal information to hackers making RAICs compromised

2 pilots to Europe? That’s terrible! How did I do it for 37 years? Snowflakes.

To be clear...the title says Calgary to Frankfurt. And since there is no base in Calgary, it would have involved a deadhead

Embarrassing that a world airline operates so bush league

And embarrassing a retiree thinks it is OK to compromise safety

[vanislepilot]

Unfortunately all the info above is verified by union emails

Company pressured 2 pilots to go to Europe despite contravention to the contract

Company also gave away personal information to hackers making RAICs compromised

2 pilots to Europe? That’s terrible! How did I do it for 37 years? Snowflakes.

Back in my day, smoking was healthy!
Asbestos was great!
I loved when me and my friends would play with liquid mercury in science class. Arnold was sent home because he drank some. Freaking snowflake that Arnie was!!!

[cdnavater]

Unfortunately all the info above is verified by union emails

Company pressured 2 pilots to go to Europe despite contravention to the contract

Company also gave away personal information to hackers making RAICs compromised

2 pilots to Europe? That’s terrible! How did I do it for 37 years? Snowflakes.

Back in my day, smoking was healthy!
Asbestos was great!
I loved when me and my friends would play with liquid mercury in science class. Arnold was sent home because he drank some. Freaking snowflake that Arnie was!!!

And seat belts were for pussies!

[TylxrG]

2 pilots to Europe? That’s terrible! How did I do it for 37 years? Snowflakes.

Back in my day, smoking was healthy!
Asbestos was great!
I loved when me and my friends would play with liquid mercury in science class. Arnold was sent home because he drank some. Freaking snowflake that Arnie was!!!

And seat belts were for pussies!

I love this, LOL

[sofar]

Unfortunately all the info above is verified by union emails

Company pressured 2 pilots to go to Europe despite contravention to the contract

Company also gave away personal information to hackers making RAICs compromised

2 pilots to Europe? That’s terrible! How did I do it for 37 years? Snowflakes.

Wowww seriously…?!
That kind of thinking is a joke…we did it so it’s ok for you! I’m glad you not flying anymore

[NotDirty!]

How does one compromise a RAIC?

Seems weird a 3rd party company (Air Canada) would be able to compromise the RAIC system.

It’s been a big pain in the ass, need to show a pilots license in some spots can’t use verified traveller in others

https://financialpost.com/technology/ai ... loyee-data

Do you have more information how that would affect the RAIC system? It seems weird to me that a government would allow a company to store data that could take down one of its security systems.

They haven’t compromised the whole RAIC system, but the fear is because RAIC numbers and expiry dates were stored in the database that may have been compromised, TC fears that someone might use this information to clone legitimate RAICs.

RAIC numbers are hardly secret, though! Umpteen retailers have been collecting RAIC numbers as part of their airport employee discount program, but nobody seems to worry that Relay or HMSHost is going to use that information for evil!

A large portion of the issue is this is unknown territory, and TC doesn’t know how to handle it… so they’re taking the most conservative approach.

[digits_]

They haven’t compromised the whole RAIC system, but the fear is because RAIC numbers and expiry dates were stored in the database that may have been compromised, TC fears that someone might use this information to clone legitimate RAICs.

RAIC numbers are hardly secret, though! Umpteen retailers have been collecting RAIC numbers as part of their airport employee discount program, but nobody seems to worry that Relay or HMSHost is going to use that information for evil!

A large portion of the issue is this is unknown territory, and TC doesn’t know how to handle it… so they’re taking the most conservative approach.

Jeesh that's silly. "Oh no, people have accessed the information that I have to display publicly on my person in an airport and that everyone can verify anyway!"

[Stu Pidasso]

Unfortunately all the info above is verified by union emails

Company pressured 2 pilots to go to Europe despite contravention to the contract

Company also gave away personal information to hackers making RAICs compromised

2 pilots to Europe? That’s terrible! How did I do it for 37 years? Snowflakes.

Ah yes, Canada 3000 and Wardair the good old days of navigating the world with two Pilots. Or the early AC days when they were kings of the GNE's on the Atlantic and the birth of the ever famous "Plotting Chart."

How is anyone, a Crew Sked Clerk or a Chief Pilot going to pressure a 787 Captain? I don't buy it, this isn't Uncle Tom's Air Service where the CP say's "take the Airplane or I will find a Pilot that will." I suspect the two Pilots simply did it, but - who knows.

[Seamusbus]

Hmmmm

[sandboxpilot]

If I remember correctly there was a time a coupla of B744 'super pilots' flew the YVR-HKG for a while