Next Ground School?

Discuss topics relating to Westjet.

Moderators: lilfssister, North Shore, sky's the limit, sepia, Sulako, I WAS Birddog

Post Reply
PittBoss
Rank 3
Rank 3
Posts: 120
Joined: Wed Sep 20, 2023 10:08 pm

Next Ground School?

Post by PittBoss »

Are the new upcoming ground being filled or the are pooling new candidates?
---------- ADS -----------
 
QKZXKV
Rank 5
Rank 5
Posts: 394
Joined: Mon Aug 12, 2019 7:46 am
Location: Nickelbelt/Concrete Jungle/Lobster country...

Re: Next Ground School?

Post by QKZXKV »

One of the Line Ops managers posted a picture of a new hire class from Sept 19th on Linkedin. Sounds like no pool and 2 classes per month for the foreseeable future.
---------- ADS -----------
 
runway
Rank 0
Rank 0
Posts: 1
Joined: Thu Sep 21, 2023 9:00 am

Re: Next Ground School?

Post by runway »

I received an email recently that I was successful in the application process and placed in a hiring pool with other successful candidates. Has anyone else been placed in a pool? Does anyone know if and when I can expect an offer letter with a ground school date?
---------- ADS -----------
 
PittBoss
Rank 3
Rank 3
Posts: 120
Joined: Wed Sep 20, 2023 10:08 pm

Re: Next Ground School?

Post by PittBoss »

runway wrote: Thu Sep 21, 2023 9:06 am I received an email recently that I was successful in the application process and placed in a hiring pool with other successful candidates. Has anyone else been placed in a pool? Does anyone know if and when I can expect an offer letter with a ground school date?
The same happened with one of my friend of a friend.

When was your interview and what day were you notified of the pool?
---------- ADS -----------
 
Happyflyer78
Rank 3
Rank 3
Posts: 104
Joined: Tue Oct 10, 2023 8:24 am

Re: Next Ground School?

Post by Happyflyer78 »

Any info on when hiring mainline will resume? I went to apply today however only encore postings for captains and first officers are showing on westjet careers page.
---------- ADS -----------
 
PittBoss
Rank 3
Rank 3
Posts: 120
Joined: Wed Sep 20, 2023 10:08 pm

Re: Next Ground School?

Post by PittBoss »

:smt014
Happyflyer78 wrote: Tue Oct 10, 2023 8:29 am Any info on when hiring mainline will resume? I went to apply today however only encore postings for captains and first officers are showing on westjet careers page.
2023 GS are full.

I am not sure about 2024 plan. I am doing interview next week.
---------- ADS -----------
 
Happyflyer78
Rank 3
Rank 3
Posts: 104
Joined: Tue Oct 10, 2023 8:24 am

Re: Next Ground School?

Post by Happyflyer78 »

PittBoss wrote: Thu Oct 12, 2023 7:21 pm :smt014
Happyflyer78 wrote: Tue Oct 10, 2023 8:29 am Any info on when hiring mainline will resume? I went to apply today however only encore postings for captains and first officers are showing on westjet careers page.
2023 GS are full.

I am not sure about 2024 plan. I am doing interview next week.
Thanks
I ended up applying for the Dash 8 First Officer position.
---------- ADS -----------
 
Canadaflyer46
Rank 7
Rank 7
Posts: 602
Joined: Sun Aug 01, 2021 4:27 pm

Re: Next Ground School?

Post by Canadaflyer46 »

Happyflyer78 wrote: Sat Oct 14, 2023 8:50 am
PittBoss wrote: Thu Oct 12, 2023 7:21 pm :smt014
Happyflyer78 wrote: Tue Oct 10, 2023 8:29 am Any info on when hiring mainline will resume? I went to apply today however only encore postings for captains and first officers are showing on westjet careers page.
2023 GS are full.

I am not sure about 2024 plan. I am doing interview next week.
Thanks
I ended up applying for the Dash 8 First Officer position.
You’ll be stuck at Encore for years and not have any seniority when you flow. If your plan is to get on at WJ then go to Jazz. If AC is your goal then go to Encore.
---------- ADS -----------
 
kiaszceski
Rank 5
Rank 5
Posts: 386
Joined: Sat Jul 20, 2019 10:29 am

Re: Next Ground School?

Post by kiaszceski »

Canadaflyer46 wrote: Sat Oct 14, 2023 9:31 am
Happyflyer78 wrote: Sat Oct 14, 2023 8:50 am
PittBoss wrote: Thu Oct 12, 2023 7:21 pm :smt014

2023 GS are full.

I am not sure about 2024 plan. I am doing interview next week.
Thanks
I ended up applying for the Dash 8 First Officer position.
You’ll be stuck at Encore for years and not have any seniority when you flow. If your plan is to get on at WJ then go to Jazz. If AC is your goal then go to Encore.
Correct.
---------- ADS -----------
 
PittBoss
Rank 3
Rank 3
Posts: 120
Joined: Wed Sep 20, 2023 10:08 pm

Re: Next Ground School?

Post by PittBoss »

Happyflyer78 wrote: Sat Oct 14, 2023 8:50 am
PittBoss wrote: Thu Oct 12, 2023 7:21 pm :smt014
Happyflyer78 wrote: Tue Oct 10, 2023 8:29 am Any info on when hiring mainline will resume? I went to apply today however only encore postings for captains and first officers are showing on westjet careers page.
2023 GS are full.

I am not sure about 2024 plan. I am doing interview next week.
Thanks
I ended up applying for the Dash 8 First Officer position.
What's your flight time?
---------- ADS -----------
 
Happyflyer78
Rank 3
Rank 3
Posts: 104
Joined: Tue Oct 10, 2023 8:24 am

Re: Next Ground School?

Post by Happyflyer78 »

PittBoss wrote: Sat Oct 14, 2023 9:52 am
Happyflyer78 wrote: Sat Oct 14, 2023 8:50 am
PittBoss wrote: Thu Oct 12, 2023 7:21 pm :smt014

2023 GS are full.

I am not sure about 2024 plan. I am doing interview next week.
Thanks
I ended up applying for the Dash 8 First Officer position.
What's your flight time?
5680 total flight time
---------- ADS -----------
 
Canadaflyer46
Rank 7
Rank 7
Posts: 602
Joined: Sun Aug 01, 2021 4:27 pm

Re: Next Ground School?

Post by Canadaflyer46 »

Happyflyer78 wrote: Sat Oct 14, 2023 10:23 am
PittBoss wrote: Sat Oct 14, 2023 9:52 am
Happyflyer78 wrote: Sat Oct 14, 2023 8:50 am

Thanks
I ended up applying for the Dash 8 First Officer position.
What's your flight time?
5680 total flight time
6000 hours and you’re applying to Encore as an FO? Something doesn’t add up. That’s a 500 hour job. Even WestJet is hiring FOs with 1500 hours now.
---------- ADS -----------
 
Happyflyer78
Rank 3
Rank 3
Posts: 104
Joined: Tue Oct 10, 2023 8:24 am

Re: Next Ground School?

Post by Happyflyer78 »

Canadaflyer46 wrote: Sat Oct 14, 2023 10:30 am
Happyflyer78 wrote: Sat Oct 14, 2023 10:23 am
PittBoss wrote: Sat Oct 14, 2023 9:52 am

What's your flight time?
5680 total flight time
6000 hours and you’re applying to Encore as an FO? Something doesn’t add up. That’s a 500 hour job. Even WestJet is hiring FOs with 1500 hours now.
With no airline experience and no maximum hours on the job posting I thought applying would be appropriate.
I’m not understanding the “Something doesn’t add up”.
---------- ADS -----------
 
cdnavater
Rank 10
Rank 10
Posts: 2596
Joined: Wed Apr 21, 2021 11:25 am

Re: Next Ground School?

Post by cdnavater »

Happyflyer78 wrote: Sat Oct 14, 2023 10:35 am
Canadaflyer46 wrote: Sat Oct 14, 2023 10:30 am
Happyflyer78 wrote: Sat Oct 14, 2023 10:23 am

5680 total flight time
6000 hours and you’re applying to Encore as an FO? Something doesn’t add up. That’s a 500 hour job. Even WestJet is hiring FOs with 1500 hours now.
With no airline experience and no maximum hours on the job posting I thought applying would be appropriate.
I’m not understanding the “Something doesn’t add up”.
I think the implication is, the something that doesn’t add up is, what’s wrong with your application?
With that kind of time you can find much better jobs than Encore or Jazz, unless it’s all single otter in the north or something along those lines.
If you have some multi pic in that total, you should be getting called from somewhere other than those two.
If you don’t mind answering, what’s the breakdown of your experience?
---------- ADS -----------
 
Happyflyer78
Rank 3
Rank 3
Posts: 104
Joined: Tue Oct 10, 2023 8:24 am

Re: Next Ground School?

Post by Happyflyer78 »

cdnavater wrote: Sat Oct 14, 2023 12:55 pm
Happyflyer78 wrote: Sat Oct 14, 2023 10:35 am
Canadaflyer46 wrote: Sat Oct 14, 2023 10:30 am

6000 hours and you’re applying to Encore as an FO? Something doesn’t add up. That’s a 500 hour job. Even WestJet is hiring FOs with 1500 hours now.
With no airline experience and no maximum hours on the job posting I thought applying would be appropriate.
I’m not understanding the “Something doesn’t add up”.
I think the implication is, the something that doesn’t add up is, what’s wrong with your application?
With that kind of time you can find much better jobs than Encore or Jazz, unless it’s all single otter in the north or something along those lines.
If you have some multi pic in that total, you should be getting called from somewhere other than those two.
If you don’t mind answering, what’s the breakdown of your experience?
I’ve never had a company say my application was incomplete or if there was anything missing.

5680 total time
4734 multi PIC
Experienced King Air Captain across the country doing mostly charters and medevac, from provincial premiers to incubated patients and anything in between, g1000 and proline 21 experience. Good solid background for transition to 705 ops in my opinion however since I have no 705 ops experience maybe this type of experience isn’t desirable. Colleagues have made the move to 795 ops but they’ve all had much less experience, maybe applicants like myself have bad habits which 705 ops see as hard to break.
---------- ADS -----------
 
User avatar
Gear Jerker
Rank 4
Rank 4
Posts: 256
Joined: Tue Sep 27, 2011 12:48 am

Re: Next Ground School?

Post by Gear Jerker »

Happyflyer78 wrote: Sat Oct 14, 2023 3:19 pm
cdnavater wrote: Sat Oct 14, 2023 12:55 pm
Happyflyer78 wrote: Sat Oct 14, 2023 10:35 am

With no airline experience and no maximum hours on the job posting I thought applying would be appropriate.
I’m not understanding the “Something doesn’t add up”.
I think the implication is, the something that doesn’t add up is, what’s wrong with your application?
With that kind of time you can find much better jobs than Encore or Jazz, unless it’s all single otter in the north or something along those lines.
If you have some multi pic in that total, you should be getting called from somewhere other than those two.
If you don’t mind answering, what’s the breakdown of your experience?
I’ve never had a company say my application was incomplete or if there was anything missing.

5680 total time
4734 multi PIC
Experienced King Air Captain across the country doing mostly charters and medevac, from provincial premiers to incubated patients and anything in between, g1000 and proline 21 experience. Good solid background for transition to 705 ops in my opinion however since I have no 705 ops experience maybe this type of experience isn’t desirable. Colleagues have made the move to 795 ops but they’ve all had much less experience, maybe applicants like myself have bad habits which 705 ops see as hard to break.
Hi,

I'd strongly recommend applying for WestJet B737 First Officer, rather than WestJet Encore First Officer on the Q400.

With that kind of time, if there are no other issues/red flags, you should have absolutely no problem getting hired.

Comparing WJA 737 FO vs WJE Q400 FO, at westjet you will work less, fly a better airplane to more interesting destinations, and make more money. Everyone is different, do whatever is best for you, but it seems like a no brainer to me on paper.

Cheers
---------- ADS -----------
 
Look, it's f***in Patrick Swayze and Reveen!
Happyflyer78
Rank 3
Rank 3
Posts: 104
Joined: Tue Oct 10, 2023 8:24 am

Re: Next Ground School?

Post by Happyflyer78 »

Gear Jerker wrote: Sat Oct 14, 2023 3:31 pm
Happyflyer78 wrote: Sat Oct 14, 2023 3:19 pm
cdnavater wrote: Sat Oct 14, 2023 12:55 pm

I think the implication is, the something that doesn’t add up is, what’s wrong with your application?
With that kind of time you can find much better jobs than Encore or Jazz, unless it’s all single otter in the north or something along those lines.
If you have some multi pic in that total, you should be getting called from somewhere other than those two.
If you don’t mind answering, what’s the breakdown of your experience?
I’ve never had a company say my application was incomplete or if there was anything missing.

5680 total time
4734 multi PIC
Experienced King Air Captain across the country doing mostly charters and medevac, from provincial premiers to incubated patients and anything in between, g1000 and proline 21 experience. Good solid background for transition to 705 ops in my opinion however since I have no 705 ops experience maybe this type of experience isn’t desirable. Colleagues have made the move to 795 ops but they’ve all had much less experience, maybe applicants like myself have bad habits which 705 ops see as hard to break.
Hi,

I'd strongly recommend applying for WestJet B737 First Officer, rather than WestJet Encore First Officer on the Q400.

With that kind of time, if there are no other issues/red flags, you should have absolutely no problem getting hired.

Comparing WJA 737 FO vs WJE Q400 FO, at westjet you will work less, fly a better airplane to more interesting destinations, and make more money. Everyone is different, do whatever is best for you, but it seems like a no brainer to me on paper.

Cheers
Thanks for your perspective. I haven’t received an Encore offer letter to date, I assume if I’m not qualified for dash I wouldn’t be for a 737. There’s currently no posting for 737 first officer on westjet careers page. I’m happy on the king air, keep logging the multi pic and see what comes my way. Years ago I remember being told get 500 multi pic and the doors will open to opportunities, so far that hasn’t been the case for me.
---------- ADS -----------
 
cdnavater
Rank 10
Rank 10
Posts: 2596
Joined: Wed Apr 21, 2021 11:25 am

Re: Next Ground School?

Post by cdnavater »

Happyflyer78 wrote: Sat Oct 14, 2023 3:40 pm
Gear Jerker wrote: Sat Oct 14, 2023 3:31 pm
Happyflyer78 wrote: Sat Oct 14, 2023 3:19 pm

I’ve never had a company say my application was incomplete or if there was anything missing.

5680 total time
4734 multi PIC
Experienced King Air Captain across the country doing mostly charters and medevac, from provincial premiers to incubated patients and anything in between, g1000 and proline 21 experience. Good solid background for transition to 705 ops in my opinion however since I have no 705 ops experience maybe this type of experience isn’t desirable. Colleagues have made the move to 795 ops but they’ve all had much less experience, maybe applicants like myself have bad habits which 705 ops see as hard to break.
Hi,

I'd strongly recommend applying for WestJet B737 First Officer, rather than WestJet Encore First Officer on the Q400.

With that kind of time, if there are no other issues/red flags, you should have absolutely no problem getting hired.

Comparing WJA 737 FO vs WJE Q400 FO, at westjet you will work less, fly a better airplane to more interesting destinations, and make more money. Everyone is different, do whatever is best for you, but it seems like a no brainer to me on paper.

Cheers
Thanks for your perspective. I haven’t received an Encore offer letter to date, I assume if I’m not qualified for dash I wouldn’t be for a 737. There’s currently no posting for 737 first officer on westjet careers page. I’m happy on the king air, keep logging the multi pic and see what comes my way. Years ago I remember being told get 500 multi pic and the doors will open to opportunities, so far that hasn’t been the case for me.
Hey,
I was hired with the same time as you, a little more but basically the same, this was during a hiring wave but nothing like right now.
I’m not sure why you aren’t being called for an interview at Jazz, maybe have someone look over your resume. Your experience would be a welcome addition to the new hires but maybe they assume you won’t stay, no idea.
Have you tried Porter but I agree about not going to Encore, you will be behind and with no number for WJ, it’s a long road. That being said, if you’re looking at Encore as a step to AC then that might be a good bet. Good luck, but I’m sure someone will hire you
---------- ADS -----------
 
Happyflyer78
Rank 3
Rank 3
Posts: 104
Joined: Tue Oct 10, 2023 8:24 am

Re: Next Ground School?

Post by Happyflyer78 »

cdnavater wrote: Sat Oct 14, 2023 5:52 pm
Happyflyer78 wrote: Sat Oct 14, 2023 3:40 pm
Gear Jerker wrote: Sat Oct 14, 2023 3:31 pm

Hi,

I'd strongly recommend applying for WestJet B737 First Officer, rather than WestJet Encore First Officer on the Q400.

With that kind of time, if there are no other issues/red flags, you should have absolutely no problem getting hired.

Comparing WJA 737 FO vs WJE Q400 FO, at westjet you will work less, fly a better airplane to more interesting destinations, and make more money. Everyone is different, do whatever is best for you, but it seems like a no brainer to me on paper.

Cheers
Thanks for your perspective. I haven’t received an Encore offer letter to date, I assume if I’m not qualified for dash I wouldn’t be for a 737. There’s currently no posting for 737 first officer on westjet careers page. I’m happy on the king air, keep logging the multi pic and see what comes my way. Years ago I remember being told get 500 multi pic and the doors will open to opportunities, so far that hasn’t been the case for me.
Hey,
I was hired with the same time as you, a little more but basically the same, this was during a hiring wave but nothing like right now.
I’m not sure why you aren’t being called for an interview at Jazz, maybe have someone look over your resume. Your experience would be a welcome addition to the new hires but maybe they assume you won’t stay, no idea.
Have you tried Porter but I agree about not going to Encore, you will be behind and with no number for WJ, it’s a long road. That being said, if you’re looking at Encore as a step to AC then that might be a good bet. Good luck, but I’m sure someone will hire you
Maybe Jazz HR is understaffed and takes time. I only recently applied about a month ago.
Yes applied at Porter as well, that is actually my 1st choice. Lots have told me even without any airline experience I will have lots of interest with the background I have. My current employer has been very supportive which is super. They’ve been expecting me to be offered something somewhere quickly however to date that's not been the case.
---------- ADS -----------
 
Oleo 4
Rank 3
Rank 3
Posts: 177
Joined: Fri Jul 07, 2006 4:18 pm

Re: Next Ground School?

Post by Oleo 4 »

Keep applying!

Timing right now at most carriers may be a little slower due to the Christmas season approaching. We have two ground schools for November already filled from what I can see. Training typically slows down in December due to the busy season and all hands required on line. With the two ground schools training footprint running into December, these two classes will be in the sims up to Christmas. Currently we utilize simulators at home in YYC, YYZ, and abroad to have our crews complete training with minimal delays. You'll find offers for interviews most likely will be presented again early January for all carriers.

Cheers
O
---------- ADS -----------
 
PittBoss
Rank 3
Rank 3
Posts: 120
Joined: Wed Sep 20, 2023 10:08 pm

Re: Next Ground School?

Post by PittBoss »

Oleo 4 wrote: Sun Oct 15, 2023 8:51 am Keep applying!

Timing right now at most carriers may be a little slower due to the Christmas season approaching. We have two ground schools for November already filled from what I can see. Training typically slows down in December due to the busy season and all hands required on line. With the two ground schools training footprint running into December, these two classes will be in the sims up to Christmas. Currently we utilize simulators at home in YYC, YYZ, and abroad to have our crews complete training with minimal delays. You'll find offers for interviews most likely will be presented again early January for all carriers.

Cheers
O
What about GS schedule for 2024?
---------- ADS -----------
 
Oleo 4
Rank 3
Rank 3
Posts: 177
Joined: Fri Jul 07, 2006 4:18 pm

Re: Next Ground School?

Post by Oleo 4 »

PittBoss,

That’s beyond the scope of my knowledge as things change week to week. If I was to guess I would think at least two ground schools in Jan.

O
---------- ADS -----------
 
PittBoss
Rank 3
Rank 3
Posts: 120
Joined: Wed Sep 20, 2023 10:08 pm

Re: Next Ground School?

Post by PittBoss »

Oleo 4 wrote: Tue Oct 17, 2023 7:02 am PittBoss,

That’s beyond the scope of my knowledge as things change week to week. If I was to guess I would think at least two ground schools in Jan.

O
Thanks for the reply.

Just finished my interview and awaiting response. Hopefully they are sending intives for 2024.
---------- ADS -----------
 
Post Reply

Return to “WestJet”