MEC member resignation
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- Lt. Daniel Kaffee
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MEC member resignation
SO, what's happening with the MEC when one of the "leaders" of the revolution resigns from the company?
Doesn't sound like unity to me.
Doesn't sound like unity to me.
- RRJetPilot
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I think you saw unity last week. To come on here as a keyboard warrior to say otherwise is delusional. Must be left over ACPA scum. 
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That's ok. Don't answer the question. But you should be asking.
And keep up the ad hominem attacks...they really hurt coming from some your type.
And keep up the ad hominem attacks...they really hurt coming from some your type.
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Re: MEC member resignation
How so?Lt. Daniel Kaffee wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2023 5:35 pm SO, what's happening with the MEC when one of the "leaders" of the revolution resigns from the company?
Doesn't sound like unity to me.
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I've heard he got hired by one of the US legacies. He would need his head examined if he stayed.
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Yep, lol! I’m tied to my number and pension but I would go finish my last 10 years if it was an option
Anyone who can and doesn’t would be considered a little bit crazy
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Baghdad Bob, is this the best you could come up with?Lt. Daniel Kaffee wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2023 5:35 pm SO, what's happening with the MEC when one of the "leaders" of the revolution resigns from the company?
Doesn't sound like unity to me.
I know you're still upset that the worst union on the planet is gone. The days of passing on management folklore through a yellow union are fini.
Someone leaves the lowest paid legacy carrier on the planet and this has something to do with unity?
This has something to do with a toxic culture that you have been a fanboi of and think is ok. People are leaving AC. It's just a fact. Because it ain't that great.
Fortunately we got a unified pilot group backed by the most powerful pilot union on the planet who are also the best paid on the globe. The days of shilling the Maple Leaf boxes are goooone
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He likely could have left a long time ago to go south, but he didn’t. He stayed because he wanted to support this pilot group in finally joining a real union. Mission accomplished.
Thank you CS. You have done more for this pilot group than Lt. Dan or any of the other shills could ever dream of. Thank you for your service and best of luck in your future endeavours.
Thank you CS. You have done more for this pilot group than Lt. Dan or any of the other shills could ever dream of. Thank you for your service and best of luck in your future endeavours.
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Apparently the rock you've been hiding under wasn't heavy enough.Lt. Daniel Kaffee wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2023 5:35 pm SO, what's happening with the MEC when one of the "leaders" of the revolution resigns from the company?
Doesn't sound like unity to me.
Welcome back. You and your ilk are still being operated by "management Muppeteers" eh? Or just still sore at being "just a line driver" again. Must have been a massive ego smackdown. All that status and power stripped away by a bunch of "unwashed stupid children".
Are the layovers lonely? Oh and btw....enjoy your raise. It'll be nothing like you could ever have attained in a thousand years. Your welcome. But that wasn't why you were even there was it, to raise the WACON bar like you should have, because it was your JOB! Traitor.
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Kaffee,
Straight up.
What you going to do with the monumental gains brought to you by a group that ran on change?
Going to admit you were wrong and say "thank you"?
Straight up.
What you going to do with the monumental gains brought to you by a group that ran on change?
Going to admit you were wrong and say "thank you"?
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So let me get this straight. You posted this in may:Lt. Daniel Kaffee wrote: ↑Tue Oct 10, 2023 5:35 pm SO, what's happening with the MEC when one of the "leaders" of the revolution resigns from the company?
Doesn't sound like unity to me.
And now you're on here preaching about unity? Hilarious.Don't worry....I'll be up at my cottage in Muskoka, I won't spend a minute worrying about the train wreck that's about to occur.
I'd look in the mirror about those anger issues...
What are there, 50 ACPA shills left? I guess the ones that haven't become MLOs yet just spend their time rage jerkin' it in front of their computer screens about the guys who beat them in all those elections.
I'm gonna take a wild guess and say Kaffee wasn't at the picket.
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These "Duds" will never thank us, no matter how significant the gain.Torontomaplelaughs wrote: ↑Wed Oct 11, 2023 7:18 pm Kaffee,
Straight up.
What you going to do with the monumental gains brought to you by a group that ran on change?
Going to admit you were wrong and say "thank you"?
They weren't there to unite us or assist us at all. They were there for the lifestyle being a "fully displaced" ACPA member could bring. Almost no line flying, full pay, cottage full time if they liked, and an occasional invite to the Company box for Pro games. They were NEVER in the office. It was a Ghost Town.
All they ever did was put "band-aides" on problems, never offering any real lasting solutions. Phone calls ruled the day, no "darts", no paper-trail, nothing "on the record". If problems were tracked or recorded, they would have to fix things for everyone. Only the "squeeky wheels" that made a call got a little grease, screw the rest, you were on your own.
Above all a senior ACPA position was a "springboard to Management" opportunity. That's where the real reward lay. The more you screwed the group and the more you provided "solutions" for Company problems at the expense of the pilot group WACON/unity, the higher you rose. There are plenty examples.
Don't ever forget.
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Get a contract signed before sowing further division. They can still vote against you.
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No one is "sowing division" they are Company "moles" and we're just whacking them back into the holes where they belong. They have never been on our side, so there is no division to create.
There's very few of them, so we can go it alone. Anything they touch turns to dust. Besides, new Members need to be fully aware of where we have been under their negligent, collusional control so they stay vigilant, and don't allow a repeat of their epic failure to follow the most basic tenants of our Constitution.
Keep the shills out of ALPA. They are a disease no one needs, and there's no curing them.
FWIW, just look at the Avatar this guy chose. It's the definition of "I know better, and I'm not considering your POV because I'm smarter, and above all I make the law" is embodied in that character. "Shouting finger pointing Lt. Kaffee", sums up our former MEC pretty good, one person in particular.
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There's probably more than you think. They're already complaining that it might be technically possible for a DC member to have a higher pension than a DB one. They don't care what you make as long as it's not more than them.
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That certainly appears to be the case.
The CWIPP formula seems to be a workaround for the RCT limit (just as top-hat/SERP is a workaround for the RCT limit).
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We don’t need the division on pension either. Pension has the potential to be very divisive.
Your MEC has dealt with the issue.
If we can’t have the same type of pension, then they must be equal.
One of the best ways to address the CWIPP issue is higher income. Not only higher income but higher income earlier.
That means raises. Ending four year flat. Restoring PCP back to what it was prior to TA1.
Then DB MPU’s to match.
The targeted end result. Equal as possible.
Your MEC has dealt with the issue.
If we can’t have the same type of pension, then they must be equal.
One of the best ways to address the CWIPP issue is higher income. Not only higher income but higher income earlier.
That means raises. Ending four year flat. Restoring PCP back to what it was prior to TA1.
Then DB MPU’s to match.
The targeted end result. Equal as possible.
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Fanblade wrote: ↑Sun Oct 15, 2023 9:04 am We don’t need the division on pension either. Pension has the potential to be very divisive.
Your MEC has dealt with the issue.
If we can’t have the same type of pension, then they must be equal.
One of the best ways to address the CWIPP issue is higher income. Not only higher income but higher income earlier.
That means raises. Ending four year flat. Restoring PCP back to what it was prior to TA1.
Then DB MPU’s to match.
The targeted end result. Equal as possible.
YES.
HOLD THE LINE.
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I just hope that you guys don't give ANYTHING in exchange for gains. There's nothing left to take. The company has chipped away relentlessly for decades. This needs to be 100% and exclusively about improvement. There's a major pilot shortage and we're massively underpaid, those two things aren't supposed to exist simultaneously! Time to take control!