What's with all the geeks on the street at Pearson

[FelixGustof]

I'm not a professional pilot yet but just walked through Pearson in Terminal 1 for a flight to Halifax

Only a handful of pilots were wearing those red lanyards.

What's the deal? I notice when I am in the US, United, Delta, even WestJet pilots wear their contract lanyards.

[bob99]

The pilots wear the navy blue Alpa lanyards. The red ones haven't been widely distributed yet.

[hsilgnepilot]

Still a shockingly high number of AC pilots wearing company lanyards and not wearing an ALPA one.

[flyinhigh]

It’s a lanyard, does not mean they don’t support the cause.

My ALPA days I never wore it as the ALPA lanyards are just crappy. My preference is clips at the end of the lanyard, not a hard plastic loop.

[billybgone345]

Still a shockingly high number of AC pilots wearing company lanyards and not wearing an ALPA one.

I created an account just to say based on my experience I've seen only one AC lanyard since September and that was in the simulator.

[PostmasterGeneral]

Lots and lots of guys still on probation too that aren’t wearing the new lanyards.

That being said, the title and original post reek of someone trying to troll.

[daedalusx]

Lots and lots of guys still on probation too that aren’t wearing the new lanyards.

That being said, the title and original post reek of someone trying to troll.

Do you really believe AC would fire a new hire for wearing an ALPA lanyard?

[apetogetherstrong]

If you're scared to wear a lanyard, you're scared to vote NO and STRIKE until you get historic gains! Don't be SHILLS!

[digits_]

Lots and lots of guys still on probation too that aren’t wearing the new lanyards.

That being said, the title and original post reek of someone trying to troll.

Do you really believe AC would fire a new hire for wearing an ALPA lanyard?

It doesn't matter what he believes. It matters what the new hire(s) believe. I wouldn't be too eager to piss off the company during my probation either.

[Canadaflyer46]

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Do you really believe AC would fire a new hire for wearing an ALPA lanyard?
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During the WJ contract talks new hires on probation were advised not to attend any pickets. Never underestimate the spite of the company during these times. No way they’d be fired, but called in for office meetings/given written warnings I could see. Just to stoke the fear and division.

[rudder]

Probationary pilots should not be used as cannon fodder for the cause. There are probably over 1000 pilots still on probation with hundreds more to be added.

Surviving probation means being invisible and unheard. If nobody recognizes your name then you are doing a good job.

Probationary pilots get to vote. And they get to attend union meetings (if any are held).

Given the fixed pay issue, there can be no doubt that the probationary pilots not only support the cause, but will vote accordingly on either a TA or a strike ballot.

[goingnowherefast]

Lanyards aren't anonymous to management. Stay under the radar while on probation.

Secret ballots are...well, secret to everyone. Nobody can make anyone's life difficult based on how that individual votes.

[FlatPayBae]

ALPA lanyards, at least the blue ones that only say ALPA are company approved. Full stop, on probation or not. The company agreed to this when we allowed them to wet lease Omni after a 777 went down for the summer.
We are at a point where there are two sides. Like it or not, If you don't have an ALPA lanyard on you are on the other side. Even if you are a "clip" pilot, I think you could probably wear a lanyard for a few months to show some unity to the company and your fellow ALPA brothers and sisters. I know that's a big ask but I think you can do it AC pilots. There is zero excuse this far into negots and pleading ignorance is no longer acceptable to us who are pulling the rope.
Also the red lanyards that say World Class Contract, grow a pair and wear it. If the approximately 4000 of us who aren't on probation have it on there isn't much the company can do. Now is the time. Wearing a lanyard is such a little thing we can all do and it sends a big message.

[PostmasterGeneral]

Lots and lots of guys still on probation too that aren’t wearing the new lanyards.

That being said, the title and original post reek of someone trying to troll.

Do you really believe AC would fire a new hire for wearing an ALPA lanyard?

The red one? Yep. The blue one? No. Don’t underestimate the lengths this place is willing to go to in order to set an example.

[Ash Ketchum]

I'm on probation and would gladly wear the red lanyard instead of the blue one but it's been hard to source.

[Dash.Trash]

Lots and lots of guys still on probation too that aren’t wearing the new lanyards.

That being said, the title and original post reek of someone trying to troll.

Do you really believe AC would fire a new hire for wearing an ALPA lanyard?

The red one? Yep. The blue one? No. Don’t underestimate the lengths this place is willing to go to in order to set an example.

ALPA would take the company to the CIRB so fast if they tried to pull that. There are rights under the labour code to display union attire. The corporation doesn’t get to approve or deny a unions message, only complain to the CIRB if it is damaging/offensive. They would get raked over the coals if they fired someone over it.

[RippleRock]

NOT ONE person will be penalized for wearing the RED lanyard. It is the Union's right to display it.

As long as it isn't offensive, the Corp has ZERO case against it. Listen to your MEC CHAIR. Negotiations are going on right now. DO AS YOU'RE TOLD. Pick up the rope and pull.

Do your share.

If you aren't prepared to do something as small as wear the red lanyard, you can be damn sure you won't be doing what needs doing come time to strike....and it IS coming.

[RippleRock]

Probationary pilots should not be used as cannon fodder for the cause. There are probably over 1000 pilots still on probation with hundreds more to be added.

Surviving probation means being invisible and unheard. If nobody recognizes your name then you are doing a good job.

Probationary pilots get to vote. And they get to attend union meetings (if any are held).

Given the fixed pay issue, there can be no doubt that the probationary pilots not only support the cause, but will vote accordingly on either a TA or a strike ballot.

I absolutely disagree.

No pilot will be used a "fodder". Probation or not, no pilot will be reprimanded for wearing the red lanyard. Could you imagine what would happen if a pilot was pulled from service for wearing one? Mayhem. That's the last thing that's needed right now. The Corp can not afford to piss off a group that is already very pissed. They were treated like dog crap during layoff, and were given a "teaser" of getting rid of year three and four flat pay, then denied during the MOA fiasco.

Pilots aren't a "dime a dozen" anymore, so no one will be sidelined, probation or not. They also need to know that they are "just a number" here. There is no respect coming from this Management team. Everyone will "get what they negotiate" and not a dime more. The only thing that will move the needle is SOLIDARITY from the TOP DOWN. That means everybody.

I can't think of a group of pilots that should be more interested in wearing one, and should wear one.

[CPU2000]

Lol...World wide pilot shortage, a training system at over max capacity and pilots are getting fired for wearing a lanyard.

This kind of logic helps me explain my pay check

[FelixGustof]

So Air Canada pilots are afraid to wear lanyards?

So like the Teamsters but without any might or muscle?

Good luck

[JHR]

Lol...World wide pilot shortage, a training system at over max capacity and pilots are getting fired for wearing a lanyard.

This kind of logic helps me explain my pay check

BINGO!
Good luck all!

[fixnfly]

Lots and lots of guys still on probation too that aren’t wearing the new lanyards.

That being said, the title and original post reek of someone trying to troll.

Do you really believe AC would fire a new hire for wearing an ALPA lanyard?

The red one? Yep. The blue one? No. Don’t underestimate the lengths this place is willing to go to in order to set an example.

That would be hilarious if AC management actually did that. I would gladly volunteer to be fired for wearing a red lanyard while on probation to be made an example of. That would be extremely short sighted and show such poor decision making by management. Could you imagine how much it would further infuriate an already pissed off pilot group? And guaranteed any pilot let go for wearing a red lanyard during probation would reinstated by the end of contract negotiations. I think a fearful mentality of AC management is exactly why the contract has become so dog shit from decades of concessions and has dragged down standards for our entire industry.

[cdnavater]

Do you really believe AC would fire a new hire for wearing an ALPA lanyard?

The red one? Yep. The blue one? No. Don’t underestimate the lengths this place is willing to go to in order to set an example.

That would be hilarious if AC management actually did that. I would gladly volunteer to be fired for wearing a red lanyard while on probation to be made an example of. That would be extremely short sighted and show such poor decision making by management. Could you imagine how much it would further infuriate an already pissed off pilot group? And guaranteed any pilot let go for wearing a red lanyard during probation would reinstated by the end of contract negotiations. I think a fearful mentality of AC management is exactly why the contract has become so dog shit from decades of concessions and has dragged down standards for our entire industry.

Not trying to propagate the fear, however AC would not fire you for wearing a red lanyard, they could however look for anything else to hand their hat on. AC has a very long probation, it’s a long time to be on your best behaviour, don’t underestimate the vindictiveness of management

[flying4dollars]

NOT ONE person will be penalized for wearing the RED lanyard. It is the Union's right to display it.

As long as it isn't offensive, the Corp has ZERO case against it. Listen to your MEC CHAIR. Negotiations are going on right now. DO AS YOU'RE TOLD. Pick up the rope and pull.

Do your share.

If you aren't prepared to do something as small as wear the red lanyard, you can be damn sure you won't be doing what needs doing come time to strike....and it IS coming.

Ripple in all fairness I do not have a red lanyard yet as I have not had the opportunity to meet any P2P guys nor attend any info pickets due to schedule/personal obligations. But to say that guys like me who can't do something as small as wear the red lanyard, won't do what needs to be done come picket or other is absurd. I am willing to stand shoulder to shoulder with all my brothers and sisters if and when that time comes as much as the next pilot and a lanyard, while I still wear the blue one, isn't going to determine that for me. I am not the only one. I have only flown with one individual who is against the movement. That's a pretty good indication of unity if you ask me.

[Army of one]

This is not a scolding
I’m hoping it’s reflective

Wearing RED helps your MEC
Helping your MEC helps YOU
Helping your MEC helps lift you, helps lift me
Helping you, me, it helps everyone around us
Helps everyone behind us
It helps our families
It helps our kids

Wear RED

Btw, a quick call to ALPA and it’s in the mail