Adverse Reactions Poll

[TG]

[JerryRig]

TG, ask this doctor
https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/ ... p=1&start=
And look again at the poll results. The evidence is indisputable. You don't have to be a doctor to understand that doctors are lying because their college told them to or loose their licenses. It's like Transport Canada mandating or allowing you to overload your airplane. It's a gamble every flight. I question your choice of meme.

[JerryRig]

The COVID shots pushed on billions of people could only be justified if there were no treatment options.

So, what did they do? According to Dr. David Martin, they let people die and suppressed treatments to make way for a “vaccine.”

The audacity of the crime was shocking:

The CDC, before it became the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, was the US Malaria Suppression Program in Atlanta, Georgia, which did what? It advocated for the distribution of hydroxychloroquine.

The institutions that demonized hydroxychloroquine were once its strongest believers.

Watch.

https://x.com/DschlopesIsBack/status/17 ... 33684?s=20

[kgb531]

Campbell is not a physician. He's a nurse.
His credentials wouldn't let him serve drinks at a conference of actual experts.

TG, ask this doctor
https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/ ... p=1&start=
And look again at the poll results. The evidence is indisputable. You don't have to be a doctor to understand that doctors are lying because their college told them to or loose their licenses. It's like Transport Canada mandating or allowing you to overload your airplane. It's a gamble every flight. I question your choice of meme.

[JerryRig]

Campbell is not a physician. He's a nurse.
His credentials wouldn't let him serve drinks at a conference of actual experts.

TG, ask this doctor
https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/ ... p=1&start=
And look again at the poll results. The evidence is indisputable. You don't have to be a doctor to understand that doctors are lying because their college told them to or loose their licenses. It's like Transport Canada mandating or allowing you to overload your airplane. It's a gamble every flight. I question your choice of meme.

So it’s Dr. “Nurse” Campbell? Nice. So you’re Captain “Flight attendant” kgb531? You speak gibberish man. The poll. LOOK AT THE POLL, TROLL!

[dontcallmeshirley]

[JerryRig]

Dontcallmeshirley

[Inverted2]

Person I know has 7 Covid jabs and guess what? Got Covid.

[Pat Richard]

Is it possible to add a choice in the poll for those that never had any experimental injections, never ever had a flu shot, have'nt been sick since before the "pandemic", and are 50+ age category?

I've been in fine health since while EVERYONE who I know that is double jabbed has had covid twice, with the second time being very hard on all of them. Everyone that I know that I know who is not injected (9) has been covid free,ages ranging 51 to 82 years.

I know NOBODY that has had more than 2 injections but I do hope that the enthusiasts get as many as they can.

Anything to help speed the Darwinian process.

[TG]

Is it possible to add a choice in the poll for those that never had any experimental injections, never ever had a flu shot, have'nt been sick since before the "pandemic", and are 50+ age category?

I've been in fine health since while EVERYONE who I know that is double jabbed has had covid twice, with the second time being very hard on all of them. Everyone that I know that I know who is not injected (9) has been covid free,ages ranging 51 to 82 years.

I know NOBODY that has had more than 2 injections but I do hope that the enthusiasts get as many as they can.

Anything to help speed the Darwinian process.

Speaking about Darwin, glad you escaped the Herman Cain award.

[JerryRig]

Is it possible to add a choice in the poll for those that never had any experimental injections, never ever had a flu shot, have'nt been sick since before the "pandemic", and are 50+ age category?

I've been in fine health since while EVERYONE who I know that is double jabbed has had covid twice, with the second time being very hard on all of them. Everyone that I know that I know who is not injected (9) has been covid free,ages ranging 51 to 82 years.

I know NOBODY that has had more than 2 injections but I do hope that the enthusiasts get as many as they can.

Anything to help speed the Darwinian process.

I added a choice and it wiped out the first few poll results, so I'm not gonna touch it at this point. Go Darwin.
JR

[cdnavater]

Is it possible to add a choice in the poll for those that never had any experimental injections, never ever had a flu shot, have'nt been sick since before the "pandemic", and are 50+ age category?

I've been in fine health since while EVERYONE who I know that is double jabbed has had covid twice, with the second time being very hard on all of them. Everyone that I know that I know who is not injected (9) has been covid free,ages ranging 51 to 82 years.

I know NOBODY that has had more than 2 injections but I do hope that the enthusiasts get as many as they can.

Anything to help speed the Darwinian process.

Speaking about Darwin, glad you escaped the Herman Cain award.

The truth is, those who were anti Covid measures and later died of Covid should be awarded both, Darwin for removing themselves from the gene pool and Herman Cain for dying of the disease they denied was a threat to humanity.
There should be a new award for the continued idiocy of trying to inflate and exaggerate to prove they were right when they have clearly been proven wrong!

[cdnavater]

Is it possible to add a choice in the poll for those that never had any experimental injections, never ever had a flu shot, have'nt been sick since before the "pandemic", and are 50+ age category?

I've been in fine health since while EVERYONE who I know that is double jabbed has had covid twice, with the second time being very hard on all of them. Everyone that I know that I know who is not injected (9) has been covid free,ages ranging 51 to 82 years.

I know NOBODY that has had more than 2 injections but I do hope that the enthusiasts get as many as they can.

Anything to help speed the Darwinian process.

I don’t have the requisite knowledge or education to determine whether or not the methods used were proper but I trust the sources of the published material on the subject.
Bottom line, excess mortality before the Covid vaccines tells a different story, an extra 3.4 million deaths in 2020!
Post vaccine availability, the excess deaths were higher in countries with a slower vaccine roll out, pretty conclusive evidence but sure, let anti government propaganda get in the way of the truth, bury your heads in the sand and be thankful more people weren’t like you!
The vast majority of humans did their part to slow the spread and just because of the nature of this particular virus and its ability to mutate faster then anything ever and was able to evade our immune systems is not proof we were lied to. It’s proof that, it was smarter than humans.

[chowda]

So now after having read through this thread its pretty clear that there are two types of mindsets at play here.

one is promoting complete belief and compliance and directing others to do as they have, or theyre attacked in different ways for questioning narratives and acting independently.

the other mindset has and is raising questions about what has happened because they are not convinced of what was said by officials and wouldve preferred tobhave been left alone both then and now.

One side wants to tell you how to live, the other side wants to be left alone. one side, regardless of the reality, thinks they're intellectually superior while thinking anybody who does not emulate them are dumb and guilty of all sorts of social injustices


take a guess who the liberals and the conservatives are here


A final thought, I know many people who chose either way with the shots with the majority having taking them. The one commonality I've observed is that the majority vaxxed regret taking them and say they will not take more. Most only did it as their jobs were threatened(but nobody was coerced, lol) and all hav had covid at least once since along with heavy bouts of flu's and colds since the shots.

I have yet to talk to a shotless individual who regrets their decision. Many of them did lose their jobs, regardless of the propaganda, but not one I spoke with wishes they could do it differently.

Judging by the reported vaxx uptake stats for this winter the overwhelming majority have turned a deaf ear to official vaxx instructions. Flu and covid shots are way down.

Are smart people now dumb?

[JerryRig]

I know you will find that there is no evidence or statistics that indicate that "anti covid" died of covid. Perhaps you should stop spewing lies and start looking into the facts. I know nobody who died of not complying. I DO directly know of a few and know of many who died who did comply. Again, look up at the poll and stop denying the reality.

The truth is, those who were anti Covid measures and later died of Covid should be awarded both, Darwin for removing themselves from the gene pool and Herman Cain for dying of the disease they denied was a threat to humanity.
There should be a new award for the continued idiocy of trying to inflate and exaggerate to prove they were right when they have clearly been proven wrong!

[dontcallmeshirley]

Person I know has 7 Covid jabs and guess what? Got Covid.

Tell me you don't understand the basics of vaccines without telling me the basics of vaccines.

Perhaps you should stop spewing lies and start looking into the facts.

I saw this "inspirational quote" recently that said "Practice what you preach or change your speech." Thank you for reminding me about it.

[cdnavater]

So now after having read through this thread its pretty clear that there are two types of mindsets at play here.

one is promoting complete belief and compliance and directing others to do as they have, or theyre attacked in different ways for questioning narratives and acting independently.

the other mindset has and is raising questions about what has happened because they are not convinced of what was said by officials and wouldve preferred tobhave been left alone both then and now.

One side wants to tell you how to live, the other side wants to be left alone. one side, regardless of the reality, thinks they're intellectually superior while thinking anybody who does not emulate them are dumb and guilty of all sorts of social injustices


take a guess who the liberals and the conservatives are here


A final thought, I know many people who chose either way with the shots with the majority having taking them. The one commonality I've observed is that the majority vaxxed regret taking them and say they will not take more. Most only did it as their jobs were threatened(but nobody was coerced, lol) and all hav had covid at least once since along with heavy bouts of flu's and colds since the shots.

I have yet to talk to a shotless individual who regrets their decision. Many of them did lose their jobs, regardless of the propaganda, but not one I spoke with wishes they could do it differently.

Judging by the reported vaxx uptake stats for this winter the overwhelming majority have turned a deaf ear to official vaxx instructions. Flu and covid shots are way down.

Are smart people now dumb?

You clearly can’t make a proper assessment if you’re biased, you are clearly biased.
Does your assessment of the “people who want to be left alone” factor that it’s JerryRig who in constantly posting his garbage here and the rest try as they may to ignore feel it’s better to not let disputable information to flow freely without rebuttal.
Also, as a note, I don’t ask my friends or acquaintances how many shots they’ve had, whether they regret taking them or anything else on the topic. I also don’t know anyone who has said they regret taking them either but to be fair, we simply don’t talk about this nonsense!
As for your assessment of the overwhelming majority that have turned a deaf ear, I’m certain because it’s not in the news cycle most people feel the situation is fine and doesn’t require additional shots, same with the flu. I don’t know anyone who’s had the flu since before Covid, without a perceived threat, most people just carry on with life.
I guarantee, if JerryRig et al stop poster their propaganda, this forum will die!

[CpnCrunch]

Glad you guys are just pushing buttons on your autopilot rather than working on epidemiology.

[Sulako]

Been vaxxed, of course. Don't regret it. I was so happy when it was first released, because I want my parents to be safe. And they are.

Quick question for the people who don't believe that vaccines work. What were you doing in science class? Vaccines are literally a wonder of the modern age. Even Trump has been vaccinated - voluntarily even! In the anti-vaxxer way of thinking, did he get a microchip installed also?

I undertand fear and anxiety result from being scared and not knowing. But why not educate oneself? Leave the politics out of it for a moment and focus on the actual science.

Some of the fear came from the 'new' MRNA technology that has been available for a few years. I hear all sorts of ignorant stuff about mRNA and it saddens me because I think if people had more info, they'd realize it's super useful - and being used for cancer vaccines now!

mRNA tech was used in creating the various Covid vaccines but that's only a tiny part of what mRNA is allowing us to do - mRNA tech is one of the coolest advances in modern times, greatly improving on existing vaccine technology, which was already incredibly safe.

mRNA is the same tech that the Ebola vaccine was developed with, and the same tech that is being used to develop a malaria vaccine, and vaccines for some types of cancer are showing real promise in trials already too.

So let me try to explain it the best I can. Old school vaccines take a weak or dead copy of a bad bug and introduce it to your body. Our body has roaming bands of armed guards that detect bad bugs and attack them, which we call our immune system. With a vaccine, our immune system can kill it easily because the vaccine is essentially a nerfed version of the bad bug. Then next time the real bug shows up, our body can curbstomp it with relative ease cause we figured them out already and our immune system has a long memory.

Now with an mRNA vaccine, it doesn't have any bits of the bad bug in it at all - it's more like a recipe book that slides into our cellular factories (our thigh muscle cells, to be specific) and tells them to produce copies of a shell that looks a hell of a lot like whatever scary bug we want to vaccinate against. Our factories make a bunch of hollow shells for a short period of time, then quit - less than 24 hours later. The fake (but scary af) shells show up in our body's hallways and pretty soon our immune system goes holy crap those are real bugs, we gotta stomp em.

See how cool that is? Even though our own body produces the shells that are dead ringers for the scary bug, it still thinks they are real and produce antibodies against them. The recipe book has already dissolved and after a few weeks we have excreted all the scary shell copies, and that's it - the mRNA tech has left our bodies.

What that means is any side effects will manifest quickly and after a few weeks the mRNA vaccine itself is completely gone from our bodies, leaving behind only the sweet, sweet antibodies that will hopefully help us keep the weakest and most vulnerable ones amongst us protected from whatever the mRNA vaccine has targeted.

Anyway, that's how mRNA vaccines work, how the majority of Covid vaccines work, and also how future vaccines will work - they will get our own bodies to produce fake bug shells rather than using nerfed versions of the real bugs.

Here's an interesting fact - the first recipe book for a covid vaccine was made only 2 days after the covid gene sequence was published, way back in the beginning of 2020. It hasn't changed - the 18 month gap between creation and release was testing and approvals. And after relase, it has saved millions of lives. The tech is solid and can literally be used to fight cancer as well as other diseases that were previously difficult to vaccinate against.

It saddens me no end when I hear the antivaxxers talking about 'the jab'. There are more than 40 different covid vaccines produced across the world. Which one contains the microchips and the ground up dead babies? Is it the ones produced by universities around the world to keep their students safe? Are there microchips in the vaccines administered in Switzerland or Norway or Iran or India? I'm curious about the thinking process that groups all these together. How does that work in your mind? Perhaps instead of a grand conspiracy to 'take away muh freedumbs', it was an attempt by scientists and doctors - all around the world, and with a whole bunch of different political opinions - to reduce the loss of life due to the virus.

[7ECA]

Perhaps instead of a grand conspiracy to 'take away muh freedumbs', it was an attempt by scientists and doctors - all around the world, and with a whole bunch of different political opinions - to reduce the loss of life due to the virus.

Oh you poor, sweet, naive fellow... you're about to "feel the wrath" of the paranoid delusions of a raving band of lunatics.

The interesting thing I've noticed about the most vociferous COVID deniers, anti-vaxxers, conspiracy theory espousing anti-government, theocratic authoritarian... whackos, is that they were almost all long standing accounts on the forum that were created a good number of years ago. They all posted relatively banal comments or topics here and there for a short period of time, and then vanished for a number of years. Then, they suddenly reappear in the midst of a global pandemic spouting off about the "great reset" and any other cockamamie conspiracy lunacy and they post like friggin' crazy from then on out.

Kinda sounds like a Russian troll farm bot, if you ask me... Actually it's their entire playbook to a T. Make an account, post legitimate things, go dormant, then reappear and spread shit far and wide and see what sticks - preferably with a network of other bots to regurgitate content and make it appear more legitimate as well as having an "audience".

For example, the user "JerryRig" joined the forum May 18, 2007. The oldest available post is from October 12, 2008. Then there are a handful of posts (twenty-four in total) until April 23, 2017. Then the account enters a period of dormancy, until June 18, 2021, when it starts posting reams of dross, spouting off about Marxism, "Libtards", etc.

[rookiepilot]

I took the first 2 vax doses, which made a lot of sense to me at the time on a risk / reward basis (I’ve had respiratory issues).

Boosters, have made far less sense to me.

I think there is a strong case (not a fan of flu shots either) that too many vaccines, and too many doses of antibiotics, aren’t ideal for our immune system, long term.

Trust, (renovations contractor, medical system, financial system, ATC….but verify, with ones own common sense analysis, with a touch of fact checking, too).

[JerryRig]

Sulako, mRNA is not a vaccine in the traditional sense. It is a gene therapy. Never been used on humans until now and the animal tests turned out, let’s just say unfavorable.

I have no problem with vaccines so I’d appreciate you stop calling me antivax. I am against manipulating your genome, so that you can call me anti-transhumanism. I’m proud of that.

[JerryRig]

Perhaps instead of a grand conspiracy to 'take away muh freedumbs', it was an attempt by scientists and doctors - all around the world, and with a whole bunch of different political opinions - to reduce the loss of life due to the virus.

Oh you poor, sweet, naive fellow... you're about to "feel the wrath" of the paranoid delusions of a raving band of lunatics.

The interesting thing I've noticed about the most vociferous COVID deniers, anti-vaxxers, conspiracy theory espousing anti-government, theocratic authoritarian... whackos, is that they were almost all long standing accounts on the forum that were created a good number of years ago. They all posted relatively banal comments or topics here and there for a short period of time, and then vanished for a number of years. Then, they suddenly reappear in the midst of a global pandemic spouting off about the "great reset" and any other cockamamie conspiracy lunacy and they post like friggin' crazy from then on out.

Kinda sounds like a Russian troll farm bot, if you ask me... Actually it's their entire playbook to a T. Make an account, post legitimate things, go dormant, then reappear and spread shit far and wide and see what sticks - preferably with a network of other bots to regurgitate content and make it appear more legitimate as well as having an "audience".

For example, the user "JerryRig" joined the forum May 18, 2007. The oldest available post is from October 12, 2008. Then there are a handful of posts (twenty-four in total) until April 23, 2017. Then the account enters a period of dormancy, until June 18, 2021, when it starts posting reams of dross, spouting off about Marxism, "Libtards", etc.

How is what I’m posting and when significant to you anyway? Is my contribution that important to your self esteem? I’m flattered. I was ACTUALLY concerned what some of you clueless individuals were going to do to your lives and affecting the lives of your loved ones, because I cared. Turns out I wasted my time.

[‘Bob’]

More people have suffered medically from ignorance than from the vaccines.

The resurgence of preventable disease in the dumbest parts of the country is proof of that.

[‘Bob’]

Is it possible to add a choice in the poll for those that never had any experimental injections, never ever had a flu shot, have'nt been sick since before the "pandemic", and are 50+ age category?

I've been in fine health since while EVERYONE who I know that is double jabbed has had covid twice, with the second time being very hard on all of them. Everyone that I know that I know who is not injected (9) has been covid free,ages ranging 51 to 82 years.

I know NOBODY that has had more than 2 injections but I do hope that the enthusiasts get as many as they can.

Anything to help speed the Darwinian process.

4 jabs, never got it once.

My anecdotal evidence > your anecdotal evidence.