https://ottawacitizen.com/news/local-ne ... -outaouais
French media reports the pilot used to work for Air Canada.
https://www.tvanouvelles.ca/2024/02/01/ ... -outaouais
C-172 crash north of Ottawa
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TeePeeCreeper
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Re: C-172 crash north of Ottawa
Very sad indeed.
Vincent had an absolute love for GA. Like beyond passionate about GA!
I’d never met anyone so passionate about flying in general until I met him nearly 15 years ago. He flew his own aircraft to countless fly ins, maintained his own radio band and just talking shop about flying in general was always entertaining in his presence.
Bon vent de derrière mon chère Vince!
TPC
Vincent had an absolute love for GA. Like beyond passionate about GA!
I’d never met anyone so passionate about flying in general until I met him nearly 15 years ago. He flew his own aircraft to countless fly ins, maintained his own radio band and just talking shop about flying in general was always entertaining in his presence.
Bon vent de derrière mon chère Vince!
TPC
Re: C-172 crash north of Ottawa
From TSB.....
Le 31 janvier 2024, vers 15 h 54 heure normale de l'Est, l’aéronef Cessna 172G (immatriculation
C-FSSJ, numéro de série 17253659), avec à son bord le pilote, a décollé de l'aéroport
d'Ottawa/Rockcliffe (CYRO), ON, pour effectuer un vol selon les règles de vol à vue à destination
de l’aérodrome de Maniwaki (CYMW), QC.
Dans la nuit du 1er février 2024, à 0 h 35, le pilote a
décollé de CYMW pour un vol en direction de CYRO. Après le décollage, le pilote a fait 2 tours
inégaux au-dessus de CYMW à des altitudes instables qui variaient entre 1800 et 2800 pieds au-
dessus du niveau de la mer (ASL). Après ces 2 tours, le pilote s'est dirigé vers le sud-sud-est, en
direction de CYRO. Son altitude a continué d'être instable et en arrivant à 20 milles marins (NM)
au sud-sud-est de CYMW, il est descendu et a volé au-dessus du relief ascendant, puis à des
altitudes variables, près du sol, pendant environ 5minutes, parcourant environ 6 NM. À environ 26
NM au sud-sud-est de CYMW, alors que l'avion était en virage d'un cap sud-sud-est vers un cap
sud-ouest, l'aile gauche de l'avion a percuté un arbre et s'est rompue. L'avion est ensuite entré en
collision avec le relief ascendant. Le pilote, dont la ceinture de sécurité a été trouvé détachée, a
été mortellement blessé. L'avion a été détruit par la force de l'impact. La radiobalise de repérage
d'urgence (ELT) de 406 MHz ne s'est pas déclenchée, cependant les services d’urgence ont reçu
une alerte d’accident provenant du téléphone du pilote à environ 1 h 23 et ont avisé le Centre
conjoint de coordination de sauvetage de Trenton, ON, qui a lancé les recherches et a découvert
l’appareil. Selon le message d’observation météorologique régulière d’aérodrome (METAR) émis à
1 h pour l’aéroport international Macdonald-Cartier d’Ottawa en Ontario, situé à 32 NM au sud-
sud-est du lieu de l’accident, des vents de 6 nœuds soufflaient du 200° vrai avec une visibilité de
10 milles terrestres, un plafond couvert à 1500 pieds au-dessus du sol, une température de 2°C et
un point de rosée de 0°C.
Via Googe Translate....
On January 31, 2024, at approximately 3:54 p.m. Eastern Standard Time, the aircraft Cessna 172G (registration
C-FSSJ, serial number 17253659), with the pilot on board, took off from the airport
from Ottawa/Rockcliffe (CYRO), ON, to conduct a visual flight rules flight to
from the Maniwaki aerodrome (CYMW), QC.
On the night of February 1, 2024, at 12:35 a.m., the pilot
took off from CYMW for a flight to CYRO. After takeoff, the pilot made 2 turns
uneven conditions above CYMW at unstable altitudes which varied between 1800 and 2800 feet above
above sea level (ASL). After these 2 turns, the pilot headed south-southeast, in
management of CYRO. Its altitude continued to be unstable and arriving at 20 nautical miles (NM)
south-southeast of CYMW, it descended and flew above the rising terrain, then at
varying altitudes, close to the ground, for approximately 5 minutes, traveling approximately 6 NM. At about 26
NM south-southeast of CYMW, while the aircraft was turning from a south-southeast heading to a heading
southwest, the left wing of the plane hit a tree and broke up. The plane then entered
collision with the rising terrain. The pilot, whose seat belt was found unfastened,
was mortally wounded. The plane was destroyed by the force of the impact. The locator radio beacon
406 MHz emergency transmitter (ELT) did not activate, however emergency services received
an accident alert from the pilot's phone at approximately 1:23 a.m. and notified the Center
joint rescue coordination from Trenton, ON, who initiated the search and discovered
the device. According to the regular aerodrome meteorological observation message (METAR) issued at
1 hour to Ottawa Macdonald-Cartier International Airport, Ontario, located 32 NM south
southeast of the accident site, winds of 6 knots were blowing from 200° true with visibility of
10 statute miles, an overcast ceiling 1500 feet above the ground, a temperature of 2°C and
a dew point of 0°C.
Le 31 janvier 2024, vers 15 h 54 heure normale de l'Est, l’aéronef Cessna 172G (immatriculation
C-FSSJ, numéro de série 17253659), avec à son bord le pilote, a décollé de l'aéroport
d'Ottawa/Rockcliffe (CYRO), ON, pour effectuer un vol selon les règles de vol à vue à destination
de l’aérodrome de Maniwaki (CYMW), QC.
Dans la nuit du 1er février 2024, à 0 h 35, le pilote a
décollé de CYMW pour un vol en direction de CYRO. Après le décollage, le pilote a fait 2 tours
inégaux au-dessus de CYMW à des altitudes instables qui variaient entre 1800 et 2800 pieds au-
dessus du niveau de la mer (ASL). Après ces 2 tours, le pilote s'est dirigé vers le sud-sud-est, en
direction de CYRO. Son altitude a continué d'être instable et en arrivant à 20 milles marins (NM)
au sud-sud-est de CYMW, il est descendu et a volé au-dessus du relief ascendant, puis à des
altitudes variables, près du sol, pendant environ 5minutes, parcourant environ 6 NM. À environ 26
NM au sud-sud-est de CYMW, alors que l'avion était en virage d'un cap sud-sud-est vers un cap
sud-ouest, l'aile gauche de l'avion a percuté un arbre et s'est rompue. L'avion est ensuite entré en
collision avec le relief ascendant. Le pilote, dont la ceinture de sécurité a été trouvé détachée, a
été mortellement blessé. L'avion a été détruit par la force de l'impact. La radiobalise de repérage
d'urgence (ELT) de 406 MHz ne s'est pas déclenchée, cependant les services d’urgence ont reçu
une alerte d’accident provenant du téléphone du pilote à environ 1 h 23 et ont avisé le Centre
conjoint de coordination de sauvetage de Trenton, ON, qui a lancé les recherches et a découvert
l’appareil. Selon le message d’observation météorologique régulière d’aérodrome (METAR) émis à
1 h pour l’aéroport international Macdonald-Cartier d’Ottawa en Ontario, situé à 32 NM au sud-
sud-est du lieu de l’accident, des vents de 6 nœuds soufflaient du 200° vrai avec une visibilité de
10 milles terrestres, un plafond couvert à 1500 pieds au-dessus du sol, une température de 2°C et
un point de rosée de 0°C.
Via Googe Translate....
On January 31, 2024, at approximately 3:54 p.m. Eastern Standard Time, the aircraft Cessna 172G (registration
C-FSSJ, serial number 17253659), with the pilot on board, took off from the airport
from Ottawa/Rockcliffe (CYRO), ON, to conduct a visual flight rules flight to
from the Maniwaki aerodrome (CYMW), QC.
On the night of February 1, 2024, at 12:35 a.m., the pilot
took off from CYMW for a flight to CYRO. After takeoff, the pilot made 2 turns
uneven conditions above CYMW at unstable altitudes which varied between 1800 and 2800 feet above
above sea level (ASL). After these 2 turns, the pilot headed south-southeast, in
management of CYRO. Its altitude continued to be unstable and arriving at 20 nautical miles (NM)
south-southeast of CYMW, it descended and flew above the rising terrain, then at
varying altitudes, close to the ground, for approximately 5 minutes, traveling approximately 6 NM. At about 26
NM south-southeast of CYMW, while the aircraft was turning from a south-southeast heading to a heading
southwest, the left wing of the plane hit a tree and broke up. The plane then entered
collision with the rising terrain. The pilot, whose seat belt was found unfastened,
was mortally wounded. The plane was destroyed by the force of the impact. The locator radio beacon
406 MHz emergency transmitter (ELT) did not activate, however emergency services received
an accident alert from the pilot's phone at approximately 1:23 a.m. and notified the Center
joint rescue coordination from Trenton, ON, who initiated the search and discovered
the device. According to the regular aerodrome meteorological observation message (METAR) issued at
1 hour to Ottawa Macdonald-Cartier International Airport, Ontario, located 32 NM south
southeast of the accident site, winds of 6 knots were blowing from 200° true with visibility of
10 statute miles, an overcast ceiling 1500 feet above the ground, a temperature of 2°C and
a dew point of 0°C.
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Re: C-172 crash north of Ottawa
If I'm interpreting the report correctly he was basically scudrunning at....Night?
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Re: C-172 crash north of Ottawa
I'm wondering if there was some type of impairment or incapacitation involved.
Re: C-172 crash north of Ottawa
Would the black hole effect not be more likely? A 1500 ft AGL cloud base isn't the greatest, but it's not really scudrunning.
As an AvCanada discussion grows longer:
-the probability of 'entitlement' being mentioned, approaches 1
-one will be accused of using bad airmanship
-the probability of 'entitlement' being mentioned, approaches 1
-one will be accused of using bad airmanship
Re: C-172 crash north of Ottawa
At night you can't see the clouds until you end up in one, and you might not even realise it at first.
He was flying at 1800 to 2800ft ASL and the ceiling was 1700ft.
Sounds like some combination of:
- not checking the forecast properly
- not having a proper plan upon going IMC
- not keeping track of height above terrain
It's sad that even an ancient Garmin 430 would have prevented this, due to all the terrain warnings that would have been generated.
He was flying at 1800 to 2800ft ASL and the ceiling was 1700ft.
Sounds like some combination of:
- not checking the forecast properly
- not having a proper plan upon going IMC
- not keeping track of height above terrain
It's sad that even an ancient Garmin 430 would have prevented this, due to all the terrain warnings that would have been generated.
