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Flying a floatplane for a lodge, on my one day a week off I get to use it personally. Am I going to run into problems? I won’t exceed my duty times as we are not that busy.
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No don’t do it or no it won’t be a problem?
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sunk wrote: Sun Jun 23, 2024 7:29 pm No don’t do it or no it won’t be a problem?
You should be fine. I suggest you look up flight duty limitations for 703 airlines. Knowing the CARs is part of the job. I think, the only issue you may run into is the 60 hours of “duty” hours a week. But have a read through anyway.

Here is the link.

https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/reg ... sable=true
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Mostly depends on what your days off are.

3/30 and 5/42 tend to be what get people who work a lot of days regardless of the number of duty hours.
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‘Bob’ wrote: Mon Jun 24, 2024 5:57 am Mostly depends on what your days off are.

3/30 and 5/42 tend to be what get people who work a lot of days regardless of the number of duty hours.
Why does this matter? If he flies the plane for fun on his days off, it doesn't count as a duty day or as duty time. It does count as flight time.
CaptDukeNukem wrote: Sun Jun 23, 2024 7:51 pm
I think, the only issue you may run into is the 60 hours of “duty” hours a week. But have a read through anyway.
Why would flying a plane in your private time affect this 60 hours of duty?
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digits_ wrote: Mon Jun 24, 2024 8:22 am
‘Bob’ wrote: Mon Jun 24, 2024 5:57 am Mostly depends on what your days off are.

3/30 and 5/42 tend to be what get people who work a lot of days regardless of the number of duty hours.
Why does this matter? If he flies the plane for fun on his days off, it doesn't count as a duty day or as duty time. It does count as flight time.
CaptDukeNukem wrote: Sun Jun 23, 2024 7:51 pm
I think, the only issue you may run into is the 60 hours of “duty” hours a week. But have a read through anyway.
Why would flying a plane in your private time affect this 60 hours of duty?
I think you missed the part where they're flying for the lodge on the 1 day off their regular job. They're getting paid, wither cash or barter of personal use of plane.

It will 100% cause problems if it comes to light, especially if an accident occurs.
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sarg wrote: Mon Jun 24, 2024 8:41 am
digits_ wrote: Mon Jun 24, 2024 8:22 am
‘Bob’ wrote: Mon Jun 24, 2024 5:57 am Mostly depends on what your days off are.

3/30 and 5/42 tend to be what get people who work a lot of days regardless of the number of duty hours.
Why does this matter? If he flies the plane for fun on his days off, it doesn't count as a duty day or as duty time. It does count as flight time.
CaptDukeNukem wrote: Sun Jun 23, 2024 7:51 pm
I think, the only issue you may run into is the 60 hours of “duty” hours a week. But have a read through anyway.
Why would flying a plane in your private time affect this 60 hours of duty?
I think you missed the part where they're flying for the lodge on the 1 day off their regular job. They're getting paid, wither cash or barter of personal use of plane.

It will 100% cause problems if it comes to light, especially if an accident occurs.
That's not how I interpret the initial message.

OP is (fulltime?) employed by a lodge. On their day off their employer lets them take the plane for a joyride without pay. If that's truly the set up, I don't see an issue.

If it's a 'joyride which happens to have some passengers on board that happen to stay in the lodge', then I agree it's extremely fishy and very likely problematic.
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Oops I missed the part they get to use it for personal use. I thought the OP was worried he’d run into duty issues.

I retract my comments.
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Day off the plane is used by me personally to fish or relax at any one of our camps or go wherever I want within reason. Duty days are usually not over 4-5 hours a day.
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Day off the plane is used by me personally to fish or relax at any one of our camps or go wherever I want within reason. Duty days are usually not over 4-5 hours a day.
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I see no issue. Sounds like a good time. Go enjoy relax and have fun!

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sunk wrote: Mon Jun 24, 2024 2:02 pm Day off the plane is used by me personally to fish or relax at any one of our camps or go wherever I want within reason. Duty days are usually not over 4-5 hours a day.
My bad, if just personal use on your day off no issues.
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