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rookiepilot wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 4:27 pm Liberals and their supporters here on this blog love Onex and all of the Elites, the eastern based powerful people. Pretty ugly to see.

These are the senior pilots that think only them deserve to make a living wage, not AME’s junior pilots or anyone else
Im a liberal , but i still hate corporate greed and their exploitive nature. There are bad liberals and bad conservatives .
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julcancro wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 4:33 pm
rookiepilot wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 4:27 pm Liberals and their supporters here on this blog love Onex and all of the Elites, the eastern based powerful people. Pretty ugly to see.

These are the senior pilots that think only them deserve to make a living wage, not AME’s junior pilots or anyone else
Im a liberal , but i still hate corporate greed and their exploitive nature. There are bad liberals and bad conservatives .
Your choice.

Who are private Island holiday JT and Rolex Singh partying with?

It ain't WJ Ame’s.
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Deputy PM is worked up about resolving the strike:

Chrystia Freeland
@cafreeland
Pride weekend is in full swing here in Toronto! The Prime Minister and I had a great time meeting so many people out in the community and cheering on everyone participating in the pride & remembrance run. Hope to see many of you at tomorrow’s Pride Parade!
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I thought you were joking... that's literally her post this afternoon.

Separately though... It's the Canada Day July long weekend.

Poor scheduling by the pride people. Maybe choose another weekend next time.
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Looking at the Calgary departure list for tomorrow, the amount of cancellations is quite limited. Are they delaying the inevitable or is something afoot?
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altiplano wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 7:11 pm I thought you were joking... that's literally her post this afternoon.

Separately though... It's the Canada Day July long weekend.

Poor scheduling by the pride people. Maybe choose another weekend next time.
Pretty sure they did that last year too
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digits_ wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 9:44 pm Looking at the Calgary departure list for tomorrow, the amount of cancellations is quite limited. Are they delaying the inevitable or is something afoot?
https://toronto.citynews.ca/2024/06/30/ ... cs-strike/

“WestJet continues to seek intervention while exploring every possible avenue for resolution.”

The statement said additional aircraft are being parked and there will only be 30 airplanes operating across its entire network by the end of Sunday
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daedalusx wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 10:45 pm
digits_ wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 9:44 pm Looking at the Calgary departure list for tomorrow, the amount of cancellations is quite limited. Are they delaying the inevitable or is something afoot?
https://toronto.citynews.ca/2024/06/30/ ... cs-strike/

“WestJet continues to seek intervention while exploring every possible avenue for resolution.”

The statement said additional aircraft are being parked and there will only be 30 airplanes operating across its entire network by the end of Sunday
Except negotiating a fair contract!
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rookiepilot wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 5:41 pm
julcancro wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 4:33 pm
rookiepilot wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 4:27 pm Liberals and their supporters here on this blog love Onex and all of the Elites, the eastern based powerful people. Pretty ugly to see.

These are the senior pilots that think only them deserve to make a living wage, not AME’s junior pilots or anyone else
Im a liberal , but i still hate corporate greed and their exploitive nature. There are bad liberals and bad conservatives .
Your choice.

Who are private Island holiday JT and Rolex Singh partying with?

It ain't WJ Ame’s.
Why is the signature move of the right wing to name call like we’re back on the playground at recess?
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braaap Braap wrote: Sun Jun 30, 2024 12:07 am
rookiepilot wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 5:41 pm
julcancro wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 4:33 pm

Im a liberal , but i still hate corporate greed and their exploitive nature. There are bad liberals and bad conservatives .
Your choice.

Who are private Island holiday JT and Rolex Singh partying with?

It ain't WJ Ame’s.
Why is the signature move of the right wing to name call like we’re back on the playground at recess?
Pointing out character traits that are true I would hardly call “name calling”
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Blueontop wrote: Sun Jun 30, 2024 3:22 am Pointing out character traits that are true I would hardly call “name calling”
"To anger a conservative, lie to him. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.”
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cdnavater wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 11:36 pm
daedalusx wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 10:45 pm
digits_ wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 9:44 pm Looking at the Calgary departure list for tomorrow, the amount of cancellations is quite limited. Are they delaying the inevitable or is something afoot?
https://toronto.citynews.ca/2024/06/30/ ... cs-strike/

“WestJet continues to seek intervention while exploring every possible avenue for resolution.”

The statement said additional aircraft are being parked and there will only be 30 airplanes operating across its entire network by the end of Sunday
Except negotiating a fair contract!
What? No. Nobody would possibly want to treat their employees properly and pay them well. There's gotta be some rule somewhere that we can force the peasant class back to work and keep exploiting them for pennies. (Sarcastic joke referring to all front line employees that the ruling class think they control).
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JustaCanadian wrote: Sun Jun 30, 2024 4:28 am
Blueontop wrote: Sun Jun 30, 2024 3:22 am Pointing out character traits that are true I would hardly call “name calling”
"To anger a conservative, lie to him. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.”
There’s just so much material.

https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/a- ... t-festival

https://x.com/MelissaMbarki/status/1807131916812087619
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Blueontop wrote: Sun Jun 30, 2024 3:22 am
braaap Braap wrote: Sun Jun 30, 2024 12:07 am
rookiepilot wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 5:41 pm

Your choice.

Who are private Island holiday JT and Rolex Singh partying with?

It ain't WJ Ame’s.
Why is the signature move of the right wing to name call like we’re back on the playground at recess?
Pointing out character traits that are true I would hardly call “name calling”
Right. Cause a Rolex is a character trait :roll:
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braaap Braap wrote: Sun Jun 30, 2024 10:03 am
Blueontop wrote: Sun Jun 30, 2024 3:22 am
braaap Braap wrote: Sun Jun 30, 2024 12:07 am

Why is the signature move of the right wing to name call like we’re back on the playground at recess?
Pointing out character traits that are true I would hardly call “name calling”
Right. Cause a Rolex is a character trait :roll:
No but wearing a Rolex while claiming to speak for the hardscrabble simple folk screams hypocrisy. He’s a walking talking contradiction. That’s his character trait :roll:
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altiplano wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 7:11 pm I thought you were joking... that's literally her post this afternoon.

Separately though... It's the Canada Day July long weekend.

Poor scheduling by the pride people. Maybe choose another weekend next time.
Pride is replacing Canada Day. I'm sure there are more details, but the Montreal pride parade is happening and Canada Day parade isn't.

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/travel/news/m ... p#comments
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Blueontop wrote: Sun Jun 30, 2024 10:09 am
braaap Braap wrote: Sun Jun 30, 2024 10:03 am
Blueontop wrote: Sun Jun 30, 2024 3:22 am

Pointing out character traits that are true I would hardly call “name calling”
Right. Cause a Rolex is a character trait :roll:
No but wearing a Rolex while claiming to speak for the hardscrabble simple folk screams hypocrisy. He’s a walking talking contradiction. That’s his character trait :roll:
Now this is a take I can get behind. No name calling but pointing out issues with politicians and their leadership. Good stuff.
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THE STRIKE IS OVER!

We have NEGOTIATED - not arbitration- a 5 year deal
This means TA2 will be voted on. Don't know details but it sounds like what we wanted we are getting.

From the union:

CENTENNIAL, Colo. – June 30, 2024 – We are grateful and relieved to announce that the AMFA-represented Aircraft Maintenance Engineers and WestJet have successfully negotiated a contract covering the next five years. This will end our lawful strike action against the company, effective immediately.

As a direct result of our members’ solidarity, AMFA was able to reach a second tentative agreement (TA2) providing substantial improvements over both the current terms of employment and the terms provided for in the first tentative agreement.

TA2 provides for immediate pay increases, full restoration of the WestJet Savings Plan (WSP), and improved benefits for the employees.

WestJet’s final concessions were obtained due to three principal factors:

The CIRB’s decision to uphold our right to strike
The exemplary discipline our members demonstrated in implementing that strike
The Union’s commitment to direct all employees back to work immediately now that TA2 has been signed
We have requested that all AMEs return to work immediately so that we can provide the value of their labour that was the primary element in achieving this deal.

AMFA-WJ members in good standing will soon vote to ratify the TA to solidify it as the group’s first collective bargaining agreement. Ratification will render the compulsory arbitration ordered by the Labour Minister unnecessary.

The Union Negotiating Committee is grateful for everyone’s indispensable contribution and support of labour groups across Canada.

We believe this outcome would not have been possible without the strike, but we do regret the disruption and inconvenience it has caused the traveling public over the Canada Day holiday period. The timing was coincidental as the negotiation process did not follow a predictable timeline. We are pleased the strike lasted only 48 hours and that service can now return to normal. We appreciate the support the public has given us as our organization stood up to management on behalf of hardworking Canadians. We appreciate everyone’s patience in the face of cancelled flights and changing plans.

Now it’s time to show the world how we make WestJet fly. Thank you from all of us at AMFA and the WestJet Aircraft Maintenance Engineers we represent.
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So is WestJet now going to shutdown because of the wage increases??
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‘Bob’ wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 12:08 pm
rookiepilot wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 11:36 am
altiplano wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 11:33 am

Because it's their airline. AMEs and Pilots are the airline.

CEOs and executives come and go - I'm pretty sure that these ones will be going soon.

The AMEs only want good faith bargaining from management and to achieve their own goals, and whether it's today or tomorrow or next week, the pressure is on. Let them know that you're ready to save them with a deal right now - it's on them.
JT badly needs a win. Any win.

Apply enough pressure, he will order Onex to come generously to the table.
What kind of four dimensional chess are you playing to come to that conclusion?

1) Labour action is barely on the radar of political supporters. Otherwise they would be running as fast as they can away from the Conservatives who DO have a history of strike-breaking.

2) The NDP—in case you didn’t know—is heavily pro-labour and it’s doubtful that they would keep the coalition going over such an overt violation of labour rights.

3) If we want to look at labour in this country and the complete lack of significant strikes, sympathy strikes, wildcat strikes, and general strikes in spite of some of the most severe affordability crises in our nations history—Id say that JT is already “winning”.
As you can see, it worked. Watch and learn, Bob.
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sarg wrote: Sun Jun 30, 2024 12:22 pm
altiplano wrote: Sat Jun 29, 2024 7:11 pm I thought you were joking... that's literally her post this afternoon.

Separately though... It's the Canada Day July long weekend.

Poor scheduling by the pride people. Maybe choose another weekend next time.
Pride is replacing Canada Day. I'm sure there are more details, but the Montreal pride parade is happening and Canada Day parade isn't.

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/travel/news/m ... p#comments
That's disappointing. There isn't a Canada Day in Quebec anyway though...
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If anything Westjet’s actions to spend multiple days down to only a few flights proves to me they would have let an Encore strike go for a long time considering they only have a few tails flying anyway.
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JustaCanadian wrote: Sun Jun 30, 2024 4:28 am
Blueontop wrote: Sun Jun 30, 2024 3:22 am Pointing out character traits that are true I would hardly call “name calling”
"To anger a conservative, lie to him. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.”
+100!
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