WestJet Cargo
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WestJet Cargo
Is there a dedicated group of pilots that fly freighters or is a part of bid package that anyone can bid for?
Are they dedicated cargo pairings or mix cargo one day and passengera the next day?
Are they dedicated cargo pairings or mix cargo one day and passengera the next day?
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WestJet Cargo is flown by WestJet pilots. The pairings can be mixed, but each day is only pax or only cargo.
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Virtually all the flights seem to get cancelled. If they’re on your schedule then you’re gonna be given something out of the reserve pile as your cargo flight has maybe a 10% chance of happening. I highly suspect the cargo operation might be wrapped up soon. Another WestJet success story.
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You say that, but they continue to send aircraft out for conversion.Canadaflyer46 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 20, 2023 3:23 pm Virtually all the flights seem to get cancelled. If they’re on your schedule then you’re gonna be given something out of the reserve pile as your cargo flight has maybe a 10% chance of happening. I highly suspect the cargo operation might be wrapped up soon. Another WestJet success story.
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If only the pilots had agreed to work for a little bit less, then the cargo venture could have been more successful!Canadaflyer46 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 20, 2023 3:23 pm Virtually all the flights seem to get cancelled. If they’re on your schedule then you’re gonna be given something out of the reserve pile as your cargo flight has maybe a 10% chance of happening. I highly suspect the cargo operation might be wrapped up soon. Another WestJet success story.
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See? Total failure as they couldnt save .06% on labour. Had to capture it, just as with genital crabs.NotDirty! wrote: ↑Fri Oct 20, 2023 7:46 pmIf only the pilots had agreed to work for a little bit less, then the cargo venture could have been more successful!Canadaflyer46 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 20, 2023 3:23 pm Virtually all the flights seem to get cancelled. If they’re on your schedule then you’re gonna be given something out of the reserve pile as your cargo flight has maybe a 10% chance of happening. I highly suspect the cargo operation might be wrapped up soon. Another WestJet success story.
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Hopefully they remember to put two FMCs in this time.dontcallmeshirley wrote: ↑Fri Oct 20, 2023 4:36 pmYou say that, but they continue to send aircraft out for conversion.Canadaflyer46 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 20, 2023 3:23 pm Virtually all the flights seem to get cancelled. If they’re on your schedule then you’re gonna be given something out of the reserve pile as your cargo flight has maybe a 10% chance of happening. I highly suspect the cargo operation might be wrapped up soon. Another WestJet success story.

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They'll bring back the eyebrow windows and sextants if they thought it'd save them 50 cents.
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Does Onex still own 50% of BBAM Aircraft Leasing? Put the conversions and trials on WestJet's bill and sell them on to other customers.
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Is there more than the initial 4 tails?dontcallmeshirley wrote: ↑Fri Oct 20, 2023 4:36 pmYou say that, but they continue to send aircraft out for conversion.Canadaflyer46 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 20, 2023 3:23 pm Virtually all the flights seem to get cancelled. If they’re on your schedule then you’re gonna be given something out of the reserve pile as your cargo flight has maybe a 10% chance of happening. I highly suspect the cargo operation might be wrapped up soon. Another WestJet success story.
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https://www.aircargoweek.com/rapid-grow ... 1697548434
I wouldn’t count WestJet Cargo out yet…WestJet has sunk a lot of time, money and effort into this venture. Can’t see them folding it up in the near future.
I wouldn’t count WestJet Cargo out yet…WestJet has sunk a lot of time, money and effort into this venture. Can’t see them folding it up in the near future.
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Now apparently doing runs out of Newark to Bermuda as a wet-lease for Cargojet.
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If it's anything like the last contract flying LAX-Mexico City at 2am virtually every flight will be canceled. Guys have been bidding for them because there's only a 10% chance you'll actually go. Cargo at WJ is a joke, they were 2 years too late to the party.
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This ones actually half decent. Flight there is always 8:45 am. Return flight 7pm.
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A lot of carriers got exited during COVID because of the high demand for freighters. That demand was higher because the belly space on passenger aircraft was almost reduced to nothing. Air Canada and Westjet thought they could capitalize on this demand, but with the belly space back world wide I don't see how they could have sustained this. I'm suprised they didn't anticipate this in the first place.
How long will AC continue their cargo operation?
How long will AC continue their cargo operation?
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I didn’t understand the move from the get go for both westjet and AC. It was obvious to me where all the demand was coming from and that it would disappear when passengers started flying again. It makes me wonder how smart you have to be to get an MBA or be an executive these days.MaxAuto wrote: ↑Sun Aug 18, 2024 4:24 am A lot of carriers got exited during COVID because of the high demand for freighters. That demand was higher because the belly space on passenger aircraft was almost reduced to nothing. Air Canada and Westjet thought they could capitalize on this demand, but with the belly space back world wide I don't see how they could have sustained this. I'm suprised they didn't anticipate this in the first place.
How long will AC continue their cargo operation?
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If I were placing a bet - not much longer.MaxAuto wrote: ↑Sun Aug 18, 2024 4:24 am A lot of carriers got exited during COVID because of the high demand for freighters. That demand was higher because the belly space on passenger aircraft was almost reduced to nothing. Air Canada and Westjet thought they could capitalize on this demand, but with the belly space back world wide I don't see how they could have sustained this. I'm suprised they didn't anticipate this in the first place.
How long will AC continue their cargo operation?
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Where were the cargo planes during the Hail storm? Did they get pummeled? If not, they would be a good source of parts to repair damaged YYC aircraft.
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Worst idea ever.Hugh Jasshole wrote: ↑Sun Aug 18, 2024 9:41 am Where were the cargo planes during the Hail storm? Did they get pummeled? If not, they would be a good source of parts to repair damaged YYC aircraft.

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One of the cargo birds has been sitting in Windsor for the past 4 or 5 months.Hugh Jasshole wrote: ↑Sun Aug 18, 2024 9:41 am Where were the cargo planes during the Hail storm? Did they get pummeled? If not, they would be a good source of parts to repair damaged YYC aircraft.
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Yeah, lets just borrow a fuselage or wing skin. Cause those are easy to swap from plane to plane.Hugh Jasshole wrote: ↑Sun Aug 18, 2024 9:41 am Where were the cargo planes during the Hail storm? Did they get pummeled? If not, they would be a good source of parts to repair damaged YYC aircraft.
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goingnowherefast wrote: ↑Sun Aug 18, 2024 1:19 pmYeah, lets just borrow a fuselage or wing skin. Cause those are easy to swap from plane to plane.Hugh Jasshole wrote: ↑Sun Aug 18, 2024 9:41 am Where were the cargo planes during the Hail storm? Did they get pummeled? If not, they would be a good source of parts to repair damaged YYC aircraft.

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For better or for worse, the 3 or 4 main execs whose idea it was to bring in cargo are long gone (one was more or less fired (resigned to pursue a different opportunity) and the others retired. The new group of execs brought in someone who knows what she’s doing and they’re giving it the ol’college try.ant_321 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 18, 2024 5:22 amI didn’t understand the move from the get go for both westjet and AC. It was obvious to me where all the demand was coming from and that it would disappear when passengers started flying again. It makes me wonder how smart you have to be to get an MBA or be an executive these days.MaxAuto wrote: ↑Sun Aug 18, 2024 4:24 am A lot of carriers got exited during COVID because of the high demand for freighters. That demand was higher because the belly space on passenger aircraft was almost reduced to nothing. Air Canada and Westjet thought they could capitalize on this demand, but with the belly space back world wide I don't see how they could have sustained this. I'm suprised they didn't anticipate this in the first place.
How long will AC continue their cargo operation?
From my understanding, that article isn’t quite correct. They will still be trying to run the cargo birds for a bit longer. However, for how long is anyone’s guess.