It is imminent.......be ready.

[CaptDukeNukem]

Pierre Poilievre was the MP who defended the Harper legislation in the House of Commons to put AC pilots into Final Offer Selection Arbitration in 2012.
So in effect, he, not the Liberals, is somewhat responsible for how far behind the AC pilots are in compensation.
Supporting them now is the least he can do, although big business in Canada is going to have a hard time accepting this stance from Canada’s “pro-business” party(ie Conservatives)

Gee, lets live in the past, go back to Mulroney.

Except Mulroney isnt relevant in this situation and Poilievre is. Do you think things through before you post?

Seems relevant to me; maybe you weren’t born yet:

“ Canadian Prime Minister Brian Mulroney and his Conservative Party swept aside one of their nation’s many progressive labor laws last week in breaking a strike by about 70,000 government workers.

Many Canadians were inconvenienced by the strike, but there was no emergency--unless, as some suggested, the emergency was Mulroney’s plummeting rating in public opinion polls. And even strikebreaking may not help him.

By flagrantly setting aside public workers’ right to strike, the Mulroney government acted in the anti-union mode of the prime minister’s ideological pal, former President Ronald Reagan, who crushed a strike by U.S. air traffic controllers 10 years ago.

Reagan disrupted the nation’s air traffic and cost this country a bundle when he fired and permanently replaced 11,000 strikers. He didn’t deal fairly with the controllers; he fired them instead of asking the courts to impose lesser penalties on the strikers--whose aims, the Administration later admitted, were justified. But the controllers, at least, had violated the law that prohibits strikes against the federal government.

Unlike here, however, it was legal in Canada--until last week--for public workers to strike, unless their jobs are deemed essential to safety and health. About 45,000 are classified that way.

The Conservative government’s move to break the Canadian strike was unnecessary and violated the spirit of a reasonable law that had to be tossed out to avoid breaking it.”

[Dias]

Are rolling strikes legal? It would help defeat the 'essential to the economy' narrative if only a portion of us were on strike. Or if we operated 3 days on, 3 days strike. Both would be crippling to the company, which is the real point of the strike, while not hurting other businesses very much.

[Airbrake]

Are rolling strikes legal? It would help defeat the 'essential to the economy' narrative if only a portion of us were on strike. Or if we operated 3 days on, 3 days strike. Both would be crippling to the company, which is the real point of the strike, while not hurting other businesses very much.

If it gets to the point of a strike you’ll see a lockout immediately after to prevent that exact situation.

[Dias]

If it gets to the point of a strike you’ll see a lockout immediately after to prevent that exact situation.

I know but what will the company say at that point when their plea for help was all about keeping things moving.

[CaptDukeNukem]

If it gets to the point of a strike you’ll see a lockout immediately after to prevent that exact situation.

I know but what will the company say at that point when their plea for help was all about keeping things moving.

They’ll say the pilots are greedy and are the cause of the disruptions even though AC locks them out. They’re trying to appeal to the travelers affected in order to prevent work stoppage. I fully expect to see more in the news the next few days regarding binding arbitration, smear campaigns, etc

[JustaCanadian]

If AC pilots are forced into arbitration (illegally by Trudeau) would they plan to protest in Ottawa? Would freeland lock their bank accounts?

How many times does a Canadians freedoms need to be taken before Canadians realize the charter is a suggestion?

[Dry Guy]

The parking brake will be set until the company negotiates in good faith. This isn't ACPA anymore. Imagine calling up ALPA HQ in the States and telling them the Minister of Labour said we aren't allowed to strike anymore. It would be just laughter on the other end of the phone.

[BE02 Driver]

The parking brake will be set until the company negotiates in good faith. This isn't ACPA anymore. Imagine calling up ALPA HQ in the States and telling them the Minister of Labour said we aren't allowed to strike anymore. It would be just laughter on the other end of the phone.

I've been an ALPA member for quite a while. There is no way ALPA national will encourage pilots to ignore "illegal" back to work legislation, or binding arbitration. It's illegal alright, but no one will do a damn thing about it.

They didn't protect pilot's rights not to be jabbed, and they won't spend money to protect their right to strike either. You saw it here first.

It's a shame, they should have stepped up then, and they should step up here.

[rudder]

The parking brake will be set until the company negotiates in good faith. This isn't ACPA anymore. Imagine calling up ALPA HQ in the States and telling them the Minister of Labour said we aren't allowed to strike anymore. It would be just laughter on the other end of the phone.

You may want to look at the history of pilot strikes and the NLRB. It isn't pretty.

Different country. Different laws.

[khedrei]

The parking brake will be set until the company negotiates in good faith. This isn't ACPA anymore. Imagine calling up ALPA HQ in the States and telling them the Minister of Labour said we aren't allowed to strike anymore. It would be just laughter on the other end of the phone.

I've been an ALPA member for quite a while. There is no way ALPA national will encourage pilots to ignore "illegal" back to work legislation, or binding arbitration. It's illegal alright, but no one will do a damn thing about it.

They didn't protect pilot's rights not to be jabbed, and they won't spend money to protect their right to strike either. You saw it here first.

It's a shame, they should have stepped up then, and they should step up here.

I really do find it rich to see some people here who are bent about the government taking away their right to strike but just a couple short years ago they cheered on, or at least supported the same corrupt government taking away the rights of people to make their own medical choices, their right to work, speak freely and assemble and protest peacefully.

I guess they just think that their rights matter, but others rights dont. Funny how that works huh?

[bcflyer]

The parking brake will be set until the company negotiates in good faith. This isn't ACPA anymore. Imagine calling up ALPA HQ in the States and telling them the Minister of Labour said we aren't allowed to strike anymore. It would be just laughter on the other end of the phone.

I've been an ALPA member for quite a while. There is no way ALPA national will encourage pilots to ignore "illegal" back to work legislation, or binding arbitration. It's illegal alright, but no one will do a damn thing about it.

They didn't protect pilot's rights not to be jabbed, and they won't spend money to protect their right to strike either. You saw it here first.

It's a shame, they should have stepped up then, and they should step up here.

I really do find it rich to see some people here who are bent about the government taking away their right to strike but just a couple short years ago they cheered on, or at least supported the same corrupt government taking away the rights of people to make their own medical choices, their right to work, speak freely and assemble and protest peacefully.

I guess they just think that their rights matter, but others rights dont. Funny how that works huh?

Nobody’s rights were taken away. You were still free to do all those things.

[JHR]

I've been an ALPA member for quite a while. There is no way ALPA national will encourage pilots to ignore "illegal" back to work legislation, or binding arbitration. It's illegal alright, but no one will do a damn thing about it.

They didn't protect pilot's rights not to be jabbed, and they won't spend money to protect their right to strike either. You saw it here first.

It's a shame, they should have stepped up then, and they should step up here.

I really do find it rich to see some people here who are bent about the government taking away their right to strike but just a couple short years ago they cheered on, or at least supported the same corrupt government taking away the rights of people to make their own medical choices, their right to work, speak freely and assemble and protest peacefully.

I guess they just think that their rights matter, but others rights dont. Funny how that works huh?

Nobody’s rights were taken away. You were still free to do all those things.

Maybe in your alternate time line

[JustaCanadian]

Nobody’s rights were taken away. You were still free to do all those things.

Please allow me to do the honour....

You chose to be a pilot and your choices have consequences! If you are not happy with your pay then just leave! Trudeau needs to force these pilots back to work as they will destroy the economy and they are a danger to every Canadian. The best way for every Canadian to be safe is to comply. This is not about you and personal desires this is about the safety of every Canadian. Every Canadian deserves affordable air travel, and we need to protect this right and do whatever it takes to keep pilots working including using the emergency act if required.

I am banging my pot right now on my porch for Arielle and Mike. They are the true leaders we need and are very generous offering a huge pay bump to these pilots. Remember pilots are not experts in finance and economics. They should stay in their lane and let the experts decide. Pilots can't comprehend the full implications of taxes and different economic markers, we definitely need a study and a graph to be published shortly with several randomized lines that will explain why you are worth less... That's right you are worthless. Get back to work!- yours truly, Covidian libtard logic.

[Dockjock]

Pretty sure nobody is entitled to affordable air travel. Sounds like you’re the one who should move to the USA, this is Canada, nothing is affordable.

[Man_in_the_sky]

Nobody’s rights were taken away. You were still free to do all those things.

Please allow me to do the honour....

You chose to be a pilot and your choices have consequences! If you are not happy with your pay then just leave! Trudeau needs to force these pilots back to work as they will destroy the economy and they are a danger to every Canadian. The best way for every Canadian to be safe is to comply. This is not about you and personal desires this is about the safety of every Canadian. Every Canadian deserves affordable air travel, and we need to protect this right and do whatever it takes to keep pilots working including using the emergency act if required.

I am banging my pot right now on my porch for Arielle and Mike. They are the true leaders we need and are very generous offering a huge pay bump to these pilots. Remember pilots are not experts in finance and economics. They should stay in their lane and let the experts decide. Pilots can't comprehend the full implications of taxes and different economic markers, we definitely need a study and a graph to be published shortly with several randomized lines that will explain why you are worth less... That's right you are worthless. Get back to work!- yours truly, Covidian libtard logic.

You have way too much free time, make your coffee and go at your day job. It’s almost 8:00!

Let us handle our business and do the same with yours

[BE02 Driver]

Pretty sure nobody is entitled to affordable air travel. Sounds like you’re the one who should move to the USA, this is Canada, nothing is affordable.

I think you missed the joke. Is joke the right word?

[goingnowherefast]

Ignore the troll (JustaCanadian)

[Outlaw58]

Pretty sure nobody is entitled to affordable air travel. Sounds like you’re the one who should move to the USA, this is Canada, nothing is affordable.

I think you missed the joke. Is joke the right word?

Irony?

58

[Dockjock]

Sorry I’m not on here enough to know who the trolls are. Yep I missed it!

[BE02 Driver]

Nobody’s rights were taken away. You were still free to do all those things.

Please allow me to do the honour....

You chose to be a pilot and your choices have consequences! If you are not happy with your pay then just leave! Trudeau needs to force these pilots back to work as they will destroy the economy and they are a danger to every Canadian. The best way for every Canadian to be safe is to comply. This is not about you and personal desires this is about the safety of every Canadian. Every Canadian deserves affordable air travel, and we need to protect this right and do whatever it takes to keep pilots working including using the emergency act if required.

I am banging my pot right now on my porch for Arielle and Mike. They are the true leaders we need and are very generous offering a huge pay bump to these pilots. Remember pilots are not experts in finance and economics. They should stay in their lane and let the experts decide. Pilots can't comprehend the full implications of taxes and different economic markers, we definitely need a study and a graph to be published shortly with several randomized lines that will explain why you are worth less... That's right you are worthless. Get back to work!- yours truly, Covidian libtard logic.

You missed your calling as a Liberal Propaganda Minister!

Looks like you are being proven right by the immediate replies in here.

I truly hope that if the Government does force pilots back to work that it stirs up the lion in everyone's heart to fight back against government overreach.

However, every pilot still at AC has already bent a knee to Trudeau, otherwise they wouldn't be a pilot in Canada, so it's really rich to see people on here proclaim they will set the brake against a government order.

[bcflyer]

I really do find it rich to see some people here who are bent about the government taking away their right to strike but just a couple short years ago they cheered on, or at least supported the same corrupt government taking away the rights of people to make their own medical choices, their right to work, speak freely and assemble and protest peacefully.

I guess they just think that their rights matter, but others rights dont. Funny how that works huh?

Nobody’s rights were taken away. You were still free to do all those things.

Maybe in your alternate time line

What right did you lose?

[bcflyer]

Nobody’s rights were taken away. You were still free to do all those things.

Please allow me to do the honour....

You chose to be a pilot and your choices have consequences! If you are not happy with your pay then just leave! Trudeau needs to force these pilots back to work as they will destroy the economy and they are a danger to every Canadian. The best way for every Canadian to be safe is to comply. This is not about you and personal desires this is about the safety of every Canadian. Every Canadian deserves affordable air travel, and we need to protect this right and do whatever it takes to keep pilots working including using the emergency act if required.

I am banging my pot right now on my porch for Arielle and Mike. They are the true leaders we need and are very generous offering a huge pay bump to these pilots. Remember pilots are not experts in finance and economics. They should stay in their lane and let the experts decide. Pilots can't comprehend the full implications of taxes and different economic markers, we definitely need a study and a graph to be published shortly with several randomized lines that will explain why you are worth less... That's right you are worthless. Get back to work!- yours truly, Covidian libtard logic.

You’re all the same. Delusional and confused over rights vs choices. The right to strike is in the Canadian charter of Rights and Freedoms and has been confirmed by the Supreme Court. Your right to a job isn’t. Thats the difference. Nice try though.

[BE02 Driver]

Nobody’s rights were taken away. You were still free to do all those things.

Please allow me to do the honour....

You chose to be a pilot and your choices have consequences! If you are not happy with your pay then just leave! Trudeau needs to force these pilots back to work as they will destroy the economy and they are a danger to every Canadian. The best way for every Canadian to be safe is to comply. This is not about you and personal desires this is about the safety of every Canadian. Every Canadian deserves affordable air travel, and we need to protect this right and do whatever it takes to keep pilots working including using the emergency act if required.

I am banging my pot right now on my porch for Arielle and Mike. They are the true leaders we need and are very generous offering a huge pay bump to these pilots. Remember pilots are not experts in finance and economics. They should stay in their lane and let the experts decide. Pilots can't comprehend the full implications of taxes and different economic markers, we definitely need a study and a graph to be published shortly with several randomized lines that will explain why you are worth less... That's right you are worthless. Get back to work!- yours truly, Covidian libtard logic.

You’re all the same. Delusional and confused over rights vs choices. The right to strike is in the Canadian charter of Rights and Freedoms and has been confirmed by the Supreme Court. Your right to a job isn’t. Thats the difference. Nice try though.

Try reading Section 7 of the Charter. Life, Liberty and Security of the Person. Forcing a jab for employment clearly violates this section. Before you say it's a stretch, keep in mind the right to strike is case law under Section 2(a) Freedom of Association.

The delusional people are the ones that think their rights are more important than the next persons, and then act surprised when the same government comes for them.

[Bede]

Try reading Section 7 of the Charter. Life, Liberty and Security of the Person. Forcing a jab for employment clearly violates this section.

The people who's job it is to interpret the Charter would disagree.
https://www.canlii.org/en/on/onsc/doc/2 ... NvbgAAAAAB
https://www.canlii.org/en/ca/fct/doc/20 ... NvbgAAAAAB
https://www.canlii.org/en/commentary/do ... b:search))

[truedude]

Try reading Section 7 of the Charter. Life, Liberty and Security of the Person. Forcing a jab for employment clearly violates this section.

The people who's job it is to interpret the Charter would disagree.
https://www.canlii.org/en/on/onsc/doc/2 ... NvbgAAAAAB
https://www.canlii.org/en/ca/fct/doc/20 ... NvbgAAAAAB
https://www.canlii.org/en/commentary/do ... b:search))

Just because something is legal, doesn't make it right. What the government did was unethical, a breach of traditional public health, and everyone should be angry.