July operational metrics update

[julcancro]

From their press release , typed by a 16 year old:


Flair Airlines, a really cool airline that you should fly sometime, today released its July performance metrics. Flair again achieved the highest on-time performance and reliability for the month of July among all Canadian airlines. With an on-time
performance (OTP) rate of 71.1%, Flair led the industry in ensuring passengers reached their destinations promptly. Additionally, in July, Flair maintained its position as Canada’s most reliable
airline for yet another consecutive month, boasting a completion rate of 98.5%, which surpassed its nearest competitor by 2%.

[Canadaflyer46]

They’re also running on borrowed time, crippled with debt, and won’t last a minute longer once the investors pull their money like they did with Bonza and Lynx.

[Big Pistons Forever]

They’re also running on borrowed time, crippled with debt, and won’t last a minute longer once the investors pull their money like they did with Bonza and Lynx.

Why are you so anxoius for a Canadian airline to fail and put people out of work ?

In any case high OTP isn't an accident, it takes hard work at every level of the orgnaization and good management. I would think those things are more likely to enable Flair to continue to prosper.

[Canadaflyer46]

They’re also running on borrowed time, crippled with debt, and won’t last a minute longer once the investors pull their money like they did with Bonza and Lynx.

Why are you so anxoius for a Canadian airline to fail and put people out of work ?

In any case high OTP isn't an accident, it takes hard work at every level of the orgnaization and good management. I would think those things are more likely to enable Flair to continue to prosper.

Continue to prosper? They’ve never turned a profit, never will. It’s impossible in Canada with the fares they charge. Did you read through Lynx’s post-mortem financials?
I never want to see colleagues out of a job, but anyone still working at Flair knows that it’s not here to stay.
As for it being down to good management I doubt it. They’ve all quit! Like rats off a sinking ship. I’d say their OTP is a combination of good luck and the fact WJ and AC are so horrendous.

[julcancro]

I wonder what the yields for their load factors were for summer. Guess we will find out in fall winter or so.

[Big Pistons Forever]

I wonder what the yields for their load factors were for summer. Guess we will find out in fall winter or so.

The guys I know that work for Flair says the airplanes were packed all summer. Yes I realize that doesn't mean the flights were profitable but high loads and good OTP is certainly a better place to be than the opposite. From what I heard Lynx had less than full airplanes and terrible OTP. There were obvously other factors that resulted in the failrue of Lynx but it sure didn't help.

[julcancro]

Generating strong loads in Canada in the summer and during certain other times of the year is a given. Something would have to be really wrong if they didn't fill their planes.

[flyinhigh]

I wonder what the yields for their load factors were for summer. Guess we will find out in fall winter or so.

The guys I know that work for Flair says the airplanes were packed all summer. Yes I realize that doesn't mean the flights were profitable but high loads and good OTP is certainly a better place to be than the opposite. From what I heard Lynx had less than full airplanes and terrible OTP. There were obvously other factors that resulted in the failrue of Lynx but it sure didn't help.

As you alluded to, full planes definitely does not mean profitable. Jetsgo was full all the time, but at $10 a ticket your loosing money, hell a Navajo can’t break even on those margins, let alone a 37.

[CaptDukeNukem]

I wonder what the yields for their load factors were for summer. Guess we will find out in fall winter or so.

The guys I know that work for Flair says the airplanes were packed all summer. Yes I realize that doesn't mean the flights were profitable but high loads and good OTP is certainly a better place to be than the opposite. From what I heard Lynx had less than full airplanes and terrible OTP. There were obvously other factors that resulted in the failrue of Lynx but it sure didn't help.

As you alluded to, full planes definitely does not mean profitable. Jetsgo was full all the time, but at $10 a ticket your loosing money, hell a Navajo can’t break even on those margins, let alone a 37.

ULCCs make money on ancillary fees. That’s how the model survives. Yes the ticket is cheap, but god forbid your carryon doesn’t fit in the sizing device. This model has been tried and tried again, flair seems to be the only one making it work…. So far.

[flyinhigh]

The guys I know that work for Flair says the airplanes were packed all summer. Yes I realize that doesn't mean the flights were profitable but high loads and good OTP is certainly a better place to be than the opposite. From what I heard Lynx had less than full airplanes and terrible OTP. There were obvously other factors that resulted in the failrue of Lynx but it sure didn't help.

As you alluded to, full planes definitely does not mean profitable. Jetsgo was full all the time, but at $10 a ticket your loosing money, hell a Navajo can’t break even on those margins, let alone a 37.

ULCCs make money on ancillary fees. That’s how the model survives. Yes the ticket is cheap, but god forbid your carryon doesn’t fit in the sizing device. This model has been tried and tried again, flair seems to be the only one making it work…. So far.

Agreed, however anytime I've commuted on Flair no individual is purchasing squat. Their lovely airplane coffee is $3.95 and about the size of a tall starbucks which is cheaper. If/when the financials come out, it will be shockingly bad as Lynx was

[CaptDukeNukem]

As you alluded to, full planes definitely does not mean profitable. Jetsgo was full all the time, but at $10 a ticket your loosing money, hell a Navajo can’t break even on those margins, let alone a 37.

ULCCs make money on ancillary fees. That’s how the model survives. Yes the ticket is cheap, but god forbid your carryon doesn’t fit in the sizing device. This model has been tried and tried again, flair seems to be the only one making it work…. So far.

Agreed, however anytime I've commuted on Flair no individual is purchasing squat. Their lovely airplane coffee is $3.95 and about the size of a tall starbucks which is cheaper. If/when the financials come out, it will be shockingly bad as Lynx was

You’re not wrong I’ve commuted flair before and the FAs seem to just breeze through the plane with the cart. Seems very few are buying things. But the fees that I’m talking about are the ones at the gates and pre departure. I dont know how the budget for these kinds of thing. The coffee is being made anyway…