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Re: YVR Base announcement

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co-joe wrote: Wed May 29, 2024 10:46 am I met a PD commuter just last week who is patiently waiting for the actual yvr roster to come out. Sounds like there's a lot of people in line especially ex Lynx pilots. It sounds like most if not all of the people currently on the seniority list who bid for yvr will get it, but beyond that it's uncertain if many more will be needed.
when is YYC base coming out for bid
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rigpiggy wrote: Tue Jun 25, 2024 6:26 am
co-joe wrote: Wed May 29, 2024 10:46 am I met a PD commuter just last week who is patiently waiting for the actual yvr roster to come out. Sounds like there's a lot of people in line especially ex Lynx pilots. It sounds like most if not all of the people currently on the seniority list who bid for yvr will get it, but beyond that it's uncertain if many more will be needed.
when is YYC base coming out for bid
As soon as jazz closes their yyc base.
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rigpiggy wrote: Tue Jun 25, 2024 6:26 am
co-joe wrote: Wed May 29, 2024 10:46 am I met a PD commuter just last week who is patiently waiting for the actual yvr roster to come out. Sounds like there's a lot of people in line especially ex Lynx pilots. It sounds like most if not all of the people currently on the seniority list who bid for yvr will get it, but beyond that it's uncertain if many more will be needed.
when is YYC base coming out for bid
There is no YYC base.
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There seems to be 3 PD machines overnighting in yyc most days, you'd think at some point it would become viable. If you're going in the order of biggest to smallest airports, yyc is number 4, after YYC, YVR, and YUL though.
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Any plans on an improved commuting policy? And anyone know when the new payscale is planned to come out?
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Any news on the Ottawa Base ? Any chance of off the street DEC positions ?
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Nauclerus wrote: Fri Sep 27, 2024 2:40 pm Any news on the Ottawa Base ? Any chance of off the street DEC positions ?
Ottawa is a very senior base. DEC hiring is on hold for the next little while but even when it resumes I imagine it would be a long time before Ottawa would be an option for new hire DECs.
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…IMHO..if anywhere might get DEC’s it’s YOW. The base expansion is expected to be very significant and other than FirstAir there’s not a lot of “homegrown” talent there at present. Lower housing prices than everywhere but YYC and YEG and an airport that has urban and rural close by giving lots of choice for crew depending on what they prefer will be attractive..
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flyingpilot wrote: Fri Sep 27, 2024 1:45 pm Any plans on an improved commuting policy? And anyone know when the new payscale is planned to come out?
The commuting Policy is currently one of the best in Canada, while not perfect, it's definitely pretty good! When it comes to new payscale, the company is waiting to benchmark off of the AC contract, so fall 2024
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What benefits does the commuting policy offer at porter?
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flyingpilot wrote: Sat Sep 28, 2024 10:15 am What benefits does the commuting policy offer at porter?
Currently, the only real benefit is that we get A1 priority while commuting, thus putting you top of the stby list when you commute, and use of the RJP fare which is at no cost, but bottom of stby list. Great actually

Now, better get to work if commuting as pilots are now being written up like at AC pre TA. We used to have two flight protections, which was taken away.

Also, as confirmed 6 months ago by our crew resources director the policy applies for folks who wish to go YYC-YVR, to only be verbally confirmed last week by the same individual that it only applies to Porter flights.

As a looong time commuter, the benefit of not having to worry about getting in s)$t while commuting was a great benefit. But it is no more.

The benefits at other carriers far surpasses what we have.
Banked deadheads, banked hotels, etc. pipe dream at Porter without proper representation.
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So basically no benefits tor commuters. Wondering how hard commuting will get at porter.
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flyingpilot wrote: Sun Sep 29, 2024 3:04 pm So basically no benefits tor commuters. Wondering how hard commuting will get at porter.
That all depends on where you are commuting from. YSB and YTS would most likely be horrible, YQT, YUL, YEG commutes I don’t think would be to bad.
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What are the chances porter will hire ots for YVR at some point?
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scdriver wrote: Fri Nov 15, 2024 8:23 pm What are the chances porter will hire ots for YVR at some point?
Porter has been hiring in yyz and people have been getting bases in other cities rather quickly. The trouble is, if you’re not on property when the bid comes out it means nothing. Maybe in the future they will hire directly to certain bases. But right now, if you’re not willing to take a chance then sit and wait.
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CaptDukeNukem wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2024 11:24 am
scdriver wrote: Fri Nov 15, 2024 8:23 pm What are the chances porter will hire ots for YVR at some point?
Porter has been hiring in yyz and people have been getting bases in other cities rather quickly. The trouble is, if you’re not on property when the bid comes out it means nothing. Maybe in the future they will hire directly to certain bases. But right now, if you’re not willing to take a chance then sit and wait.
So basically AC and Jazz :lol:
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Me262 wrote: Tue Nov 19, 2024 4:14 am
CaptDukeNukem wrote: Sat Nov 16, 2024 11:24 am
scdriver wrote: Fri Nov 15, 2024 8:23 pm What are the chances porter will hire ots for YVR at some point?
Porter has been hiring in yyz and people have been getting bases in other cities rather quickly. The trouble is, if you’re not on property when the bid comes out it means nothing. Maybe in the future they will hire directly to certain bases. But right now, if you’re not willing to take a chance then sit and wait.
So basically AC and Jazz :lol:
Someone had to say it, :lol:
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Again. Porter posts the bases they are hiring for. This is directly communicated in the ads. There’s a big difference.
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CaptDukeNukem wrote: Tue Nov 19, 2024 6:02 pm Again. Porter posts the bases they are hiring for. This is directly communicated in the ads. There’s a big difference.
Hi Duke,
I mean this respectfully, I doubt there is much difference to those wanting a base other than YYZ. They are rolling the dice the same way, except at Jazz or AC there is still a possibility of getting your desired base on day 3, with Porter it seems you will at the very least be Toronto for initial training and then maybe another base.
I’d be willing to bet real Canadian pesos that if they wanted a different base other than YYZ, they would prefer a course where you draw you seniority and pick from different offered bases based on said seniority, a fighting chance if you will.
No perfect system seems to exist at this point
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cdnavater wrote: Tue Nov 19, 2024 6:48 pm
CaptDukeNukem wrote: Tue Nov 19, 2024 6:02 pm Again. Porter posts the bases they are hiring for. This is directly communicated in the ads. There’s a big difference.
Hi Duke,
I mean this respectfully, I doubt there is much difference to those wanting a base other than YYZ. They are rolling the dice the same way, except at Jazz or AC there is still a possibility of getting your desired base on day 3, with Porter it seems you will at the very least be Toronto for initial training and then maybe another base.
I’d be willing to bet real Canadian pesos that if they wanted a different base other than YYZ, they would prefer a course where you draw you seniority and pick from different offered bases based on said seniority, a fighting chance if you will.
No perfect system seems to exist at this point
You’re right. At the moment the optics are mostly the same. I’m hopeful direct base placement jobs in a specified base will be a thing for all airlines. Not sure how Porter will continue the hiring
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Me262 wrote: Tue Nov 19, 2024 4:14 am So basically AC and Jazz :lol:
Keep in mind that the only way to avoid bumping seniority is to have internal transfers first to a position. If memory serves AC and Jazz do that which is the delay in knowing where one will go.
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cdnavater wrote: Tue Nov 19, 2024 6:48 pm
CaptDukeNukem wrote: Tue Nov 19, 2024 6:02 pm Again. Porter posts the bases they are hiring for. This is directly communicated in the ads. There’s a big difference.
Hi Duke,
I mean this respectfully, I doubt there is much difference to those wanting a base other than YYZ. They are rolling the dice the same way, except at Jazz or AC there is still a possibility of getting your desired base on day 3, with Porter it seems you will at the very least be Toronto for initial training and then maybe another base.
I’d be willing to bet real Canadian pesos that if they wanted a different base other than YYZ, they would prefer a course where you draw you seniority and pick from different offered bases based on said seniority, a fighting chance if you will.
No perfect system seems to exist at this point
Then don't accept a YYZ spot. If the job ad says YVR, tell the recruiter that you're looking for YVR, and can wait patiently for a YVR spot to become available.
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goingnowherefast wrote: Wed Nov 20, 2024 7:45 am
cdnavater wrote: Tue Nov 19, 2024 6:48 pm
CaptDukeNukem wrote: Tue Nov 19, 2024 6:02 pm Again. Porter posts the bases they are hiring for. This is directly communicated in the ads. There’s a big difference.
Hi Duke,
I mean this respectfully, I doubt there is much difference to those wanting a base other than YYZ. They are rolling the dice the same way, except at Jazz or AC there is still a possibility of getting your desired base on day 3, with Porter it seems you will at the very least be Toronto for initial training and then maybe another base.
I’d be willing to bet real Canadian pesos that if they wanted a different base other than YYZ, they would prefer a course where you draw you seniority and pick from different offered bases based on said seniority, a fighting chance if you will.
No perfect system seems to exist at this point
Then don't accept a YYZ spot. If the job ad says YVR, tell the recruiter that you're looking for YVR, and can wait patiently for a YVR spot to become available.
That’s not how seniority works dude, if they turn down Toronto, the ones who take the job are offered YVR before any OTS pilots, if they hire directly for YVR while on property pilots want it, guess what happens to morale!
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Porter is following seniority for bases and fleet transfers now?
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cdnavater wrote: Wed Nov 20, 2024 6:12 pm
goingnowherefast wrote: Wed Nov 20, 2024 7:45 am
cdnavater wrote: Tue Nov 19, 2024 6:48 pm

Hi Duke,
I mean this respectfully, I doubt there is much difference to those wanting a base other than YYZ. They are rolling the dice the same way, except at Jazz or AC there is still a possibility of getting your desired base on day 3, with Porter it seems you will at the very least be Toronto for initial training and then maybe another base.
I’d be willing to bet real Canadian pesos that if they wanted a different base other than YYZ, they would prefer a course where you draw you seniority and pick from different offered bases based on said seniority, a fighting chance if you will.
No perfect system seems to exist at this point
Then don't accept a YYZ spot. If the job ad says YVR, tell the recruiter that you're looking for YVR, and can wait patiently for a YVR spot to become available.
That’s not how seniority works dude, if they turn down Toronto, the ones who take the job are offered YVR before any OTS pilots, if they hire directly for YVR while on property pilots want it, guess what happens to morale!
That's how seniority works in Porterland.
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