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The new ADB's suck

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What's everyone's take on the new ADB's being issued? It's just a lousy bunch of paper held together with 2 staples; not unlike a temporary version of something while you wait for the real-deal. It honestly looks like it came out of Grade 3 arts n' crafts.

Getting any level of pilot or ATC license is not an insignificant achievement, so to reward you with this welfare garbage, but charge you full fare is pretty naughty....actually I almost find it downright disrespectful to aviation. Is this a cost saving measure, or what gives?
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I’d rather get mine quick. The only time it comes out is for medical, stickers, and PPCs
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I mean.... it used to be a piece of paper....
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Anyone have any new info on this...?

Mine isn't due for another year, but I just recently saw one of the new ones... yikes. Looks like it was a high school arts and crafts project. This government can't even do the simple stuff properly.
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"This will be of great benefit to both the licensed pilot community and to Transport Canada as it will substantially reduce the cost and time involved in the issuance of an Aviation Document Booklet"


Personally, I don't care what it looks like and if it saves me 5 bucks a year in fees I'd rather spend it on a beer....but we all know it won't go down by the time the bill gets to us.
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khedrei wrote: Thu Jan 02, 2025 12:26 pm Anyone have any new info on this...?

Mine isn't due for another year, but I just recently saw one of the new ones... yikes. Looks like it was a high school arts and crafts project. This government can't even do the simple stuff properly.
If you're asking about renewal times, I mailed my application in and would've had it back in about 40 days if it wasn't for the Canada Post strike. Quality isn't as bad as what I'm hearing, but it's a level down from previous version for sure.
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I was more referring to the quality. I figured once they realized they dropped the ball, they might fix it. Kinda like how the ontario government did with their stupid license plates.
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What quality?

Does it display the information in a legible fashion? Yes.

Other than that, who cares!?

Remember when it used to be a folded up piece of paper that you probably could have designed in MS Paint and printed on your bubble jet printer?
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‘Bob’ wrote: Sat Jan 04, 2025 5:51 pm What quality?

Does it display the information in a legible fashion? Yes.

Other than that, who cares!?
Obviously Those who want to show it off and brag in their mall visits.
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For what it's worth, I heard a rumour that the ADB does not meet spec in that the booklet is required to be stich bound and not stapled. If in fact this is true then you can expect TC will issue new ADB's.
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‘Bob’ wrote: Sat Jan 04, 2025 5:51 pm What quality?

Does it display the information in a legible fashion? Yes.

Other than that, who cares!?

Remember when it used to be a folded up piece of paper that you probably could have designed in MS Paint and printed on your bubble jet printer?
Good to know what your standards are. I guess that's why you love the liberals.
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That's confusing. To not support complete unnecessary spending? That's moreso opposite from the current Liberals ideology. I also don't care about how fancy my license looks. There are a million little cuts that need to be made, and a few big ones. Then again, the ball just started rolling today.
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I'd be happy with a plastic card to shove in my wallet.
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DanWEC wrote: Mon Jan 06, 2025 11:47 am That's confusing. To not support complete unnecessary spending? That's moreso opposite from the current Liberals ideology. I also don't care about how fancy my license looks. There are a million little cuts that need to be made, and a few big ones. Then again, the ball just started rolling today.
It's not confusing at all. Do you think them giving us a junk booklet is saving anything. The main problem with the liberals is they spend a fortune and achieve nothing. Lots of money for no quality. I'm fine with spending money if we get something decent out of it.

Like their school food program that hasn't served s single meal or fed a single kid.

For the booklet, they just dropped the quality and saved nothing.

I never thought I'd say this about healthcare, but I'm with rookie. Make us pay "something" for it. Get rid of the waste. I'd rather pay for something that worked and have lower taxes.
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TC is in the process of issuing 4000 new ADB’s to replace the new ones. The plan is for a digital ADB by 2026 that will go on your phone.
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I'm already writing a letter to the new government explaining all the issues that I've had with Transport Canada over the last 9 years. I urge you all to do the same. These letters actually do get read and if it's the Conservatives that end up in in power they will be looking for bloated ineffective government agencies to gut and rebuild.
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Dry Guy wrote: Tue Jan 07, 2025 1:32 pm I'm already writing a letter to the new government explaining all the issues that I've had with Transport Canada over the last 9 years. I urge you all to do the same. These letters actually do get read and if it's the Conservatives that end up in in power they will be looking for bloated ineffective government agencies to gut and rebuild.
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rookiepilot wrote: Tue Jan 07, 2025 2:27 pm
Dry Guy wrote: Tue Jan 07, 2025 1:32 pm I'm already writing a letter to the new government explaining all the issues that I've had with Transport Canada over the last 9 years. I urge you all to do the same. These letters actually do get read and if it's the Conservatives that end up in in power they will be looking for bloated ineffective government agencies to gut and rebuild.
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Nah, if you put a little effort and make it look nice and mail it in someone will read it. Party time is over for civil servants.
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rookiepilot wrote: Sat Jan 04, 2025 6:45 pm
‘Bob’ wrote: Sat Jan 04, 2025 5:51 pm What quality?

Does it display the information in a legible fashion? Yes.

Other than that, who cares!?
Obviously Those who want to show it off and brag in their mall visits.
No one would ever brag about holding a TC pilot's license. Has to be one of the world's easiest to obtain.
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swervin wrote: Mon Jan 06, 2025 11:28 pm TC is in the process of issuing 4000 new ADB’s to replace the new ones. The plan is for a digital ADB by 2026 that will go on your phone.
Yes, you can find it on your ArriveCan app.
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