Which US airline would you join if Canada merges with America?

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And where would you live?
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Portugal.
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What DanWEC said.
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SLC for Delta. Not particularly a senior base, no wide bodies.

Decent ski. Low crime. Pro 2nd amendment. Hot Mormon chicks.
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You think you will have that option ? Obviously you haven't checked out how the folks living in various places the USA has annexed over the years are treated.
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daedalusx wrote: Tue Jan 28, 2025 9:53 am SLC for Delta. Not particularly a senior base, no wide bodies.

Decent ski. Low crime. Pro 2nd amendment. Hot Mormon chicks.
Plus you’d make enough to have a few hot Mormon chicks. :lol:
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Hawaiian if I can hold Hawaii base. I've had enough winter for a lifetime.
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Phoenix for SWA or AA
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Dry Guy wrote: Tue Jan 28, 2025 5:16 pm Hawaiian if I can hold Hawaii base. I've had enough winter for a lifetime.
No problem there. HNL is junior, especially if you are on the 717 doing inter-island flights. I got a friend whose in management there- he loves living in Hawaii.
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For me- United Airlines. Get on the 737 on their GUM base. Years ago while I was kicking around Micronesia I met a silver-haired 737 FO, originally from Hawaii, but GUM based. They run an interesting milk run from GUM through the FSM and Marshall Islands to HNL, with several days layover in HNL.

Super cool, laidback guy 🤙 The guy was an avid surfer. On his days off in GUM he would go surfing. When he was in HNL, he would stay at his daughter’s apartment where he kept a surf board, and go surfing on his layovers. Then back to GUM and surf. The guy became my role model about how I would love to live.

Alternatively, Hawaiian Airlines with a HNL base. I could also feel good being PHX based on SWA.
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United, American, or Delta in a red state.
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This all assumes we would be seen as equals.
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Not a problem I keep 4 hens. I give away eggs,and they keep my hard free of bugs
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Alaska ANC base, I like hunting and fishing
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lownslow wrote: Wed Jan 29, 2025 10:56 pm This all assumes we would be seen as equals.
Exactly, and it's highly unlikely that will happen.

What people expect will happen if Canada joins the US:
- We'll be getting a referendum where we can vote for a very detailed plan on how Canada would join the US
- There will be 10 to 13 states joining the US
- Less bureaucracy
- Lower taxes
- Better speed and quality of healthcare
- 100 CAD salaries will turn into 100 USD salaries
- Lower prices on pretty much everything

What will actually happen:
- A referendum with a very broad question 'Do you want to join the US', with no specifics whatsoever
- One state only joining the US
- An extra layer of bureaucracy gets added
- Taxes won't go down. Initially explained by 'there's a lot of work to do with all these changes' and then it will just get forgotten about
- We'll all need to pay for private healthcare insurance, but there will be some weird construction that only the government is allowed to offer healthcare, resulting in the same level of care at a significantly higher expense for no reason
- 100 CAD salaries will stay 100 CAD salaries
- Prices on everything will go up for no reason other than 'we're charging you in USD now!'
- Any funding or government programs originating in the US will be cased on population and not land size, and thus benefit Canada very little
- Looser regulations on food will result in crappier and unhealthier food but we'll still pay the same high price
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digits_ wrote: Thu Jan 30, 2025 8:09 am - One state only joining the US
Everyone keeps saying state but ask Puerto Rico how that’s going for them.
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lownslow wrote: Thu Jan 30, 2025 8:51 am
digits_ wrote: Thu Jan 30, 2025 8:09 am - One state only joining the US
Everyone keeps saying state but ask Puerto Rico how that’s going for them.
True, even state is not guaranteed. People should be careful what they wish for, they might get it!
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I’ll trade cheap gas for expensive eggs any day.
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Inverted2 wrote: Thu Jan 30, 2025 9:26 am
I’ll trade cheap gas for expensive eggs any day.
Why would the cost of gas go down? Shell/Esso/whoever already know you’re reliably paying about a buck sixty a litre right now. Do you think that someone who makes those pricing decisions likes you?
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lownslow wrote: Thu Jan 30, 2025 9:50 am
Inverted2 wrote: Thu Jan 30, 2025 9:26 am
I’ll trade cheap gas for expensive eggs any day.
Why would the cost of gas go down? Shell/Esso/whoever already know you’re reliably paying about a buck sixty a litre right now. Do you think that someone who makes those pricing decisions likes you?
Carbon tax and other taxes. They don’t do that sh1t south of the border. I saw gas for 2.89 a gallon. That’s a lot cheaper than we pay.
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Age is against me so the majors are pretty much out, not keen on the FO for life/ living in New York choice. Skywest, Colorado Springs base would check a lot of boxes for me though.
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Inverted2 wrote: Thu Jan 30, 2025 10:20 am
Carbon tax and other taxes. They don’t do that sh1t south of the border. I saw gas for 2.89 a gallon. That’s a lot cheaper than we pay.
But that's not everywhere. I've seen it also close to $4.00 USD/gallon in places. The thing people are forgetting when they cheer Canada joining the US for lower taxes, is that the individual states impose their own taxation. I would count on if Canada became a state, our taxes would be closer to California's than Texas's. Assuming you still want the snow to be plowed here. On average I find US prices these days to be on par with Canada - on the average - once you do the conversion CAD to USD.
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Except a 3rd year southwest FO makes more than a top tier Porter Captain after conversion.
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digits_ wrote: Thu Jan 30, 2025 8:09 am
lownslow wrote: Wed Jan 29, 2025 10:56 pm This all assumes we would be seen as equals.
Exactly, and it's highly unlikely that will happen.

What people expect will happen if Canada joins the US:
- We'll be getting a referendum where we can vote for a very detailed plan on how Canada would join the US
- There will be 10 to 13 states joining the US
- Less bureaucracy
- Lower taxes
- Better speed and quality of healthcare
- 100 CAD salaries will turn into 100 USD salaries
- Lower prices on pretty much everything

What will actually happen:
- A referendum with a very broad question 'Do you want to join the US', with no specifics whatsoever Nothing wrong with that
- One state only joining the US Unlikely. More likely 4-6. The prairie provinces will not allow the leftist bastions of Toronto, Montreal and Ottawa to represent them with a permanent democrat senatorship
- An extra layer of bureaucracy gets added There is much less bureaucracy in the US. And the gap is getting wider, look at how many federal employees are getting fired/laid off in the US right now
- Taxes won't go down. Initially explained by 'there's a lot of work to do with all these changes' and then it will just get forgotten about By simple virtue of the Federal income tax rate in the US being 7.5%, taxes WILL, indeed, go down
- We'll all need to pay for private healthcare insurance, but there will be some weird construction that only the government is allowed to offer healthcare, resulting in the same level of care at a significantly higher expense for no reason Over 80% of US private insurance plans are covered by the employers. All US airlines have private health insurance plans, therefore moot.
- 100 CAD salaries will stay 100 CAD salaries Not under ALPA's watch. And if they actually do, the economies of the former Canadian states will go red hot and over a few years, rebalance because of a reverse brain-drain
- Prices on everything will go up for no reason other than 'we're charging you in USD now!' That assumes inflationary pressures from reducing bureaucracy and trade barriers, which is universally not the case. The Laffer curve proves that those things are deflationary
- Any funding or government programs originating in the US will be cased on population and not land size, and thus benefit Canada very little US states do receive varying rebalancing payments based on how poor the local economy is, also since Canada is full of leftists (democrats), it's highly likely that the next time democrats take the house and senate, favouritism will favour Canadian states
- Looser regulations on food will result in crappier and unhealthier food but we'll still pay the same high price Fun fact, in the winter, over 50% of Canada's fresh food comes from the US. And you're still eating Froot Loops, seed oils, and donuts as a Canadian, what makes you think suddenly your food choices will change? It's proven that more buying power makes people make healthier choices when it comes to their slop
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