Trump threatens immediate 25% tariffs on Canada

[Daniel Cooper]

My question on this, when did it become the responsibility of Canada to secure the border for the US and prevent southbound traffic from entering the USA ?

When we let in millions of unvetted people on student visas many who have only one goal. To "reach". "

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[TeePeeCreeper]

Watching the half-wittery of premiers sending conservation officers and highway traffic cops to do "border security" is hilarious.

My question on this, when did it become the responsibility of Canada to secure the border for the US and prevent southbound traffic from entering the USA ?

Folks buying into that are falling for the rhetoric of a con man telling his minions that we should be preventing folks from entering the US because they aren't capable of doing it themselves.

Unfortunately you are just as mistaken as our Provincial Premiers whom are speaking out of turn as this is a Federal issue and not a provincial one. I wish uncle Doug would shut his trap.

Canada has had a long time standing MOU with our American counter parts. (CBSA/CPB). Sadly we haven’t kept up our part of the bargain. Akin to Canada failing to meet its NATO obligations.

I’m no fan of the 47th American President but Canada hasn’t been fulfilling its obligations. If it takes a loud mouth American President to remind us of it… than so be it.

TPC

[pelmet]

It is my hope that Trump will be a big benefit to Canada. The dairy cartel could be gone(costs Canadians billions). New pipelines are being discussed(has cost canadians billions over the last decade), while still low probability.....new talk of removing provincial trade barriers.

Will it happen? Maybe or maybe not but imagine if that was the result.

[oldncold]

CANADA meaning in traditional indigenious language. Meaning a collection of huts .

If we as a nation dont get our sh.. together soon we shall return to that meaning. Or become occupied by one of the big 4 within in the next 50 years for our resource wealth. The world population now 8 billion has doubled in 45 years expected to top 11 billion by 2050 this is driving the competion for resources china and india cannot feed itself without massive imports of oil and food. Even today let alone adding another billion each.

Usa running out of water in the bread basket of america the oklahoma nebraska aquifer expected to run dry by 2035, Colorado river at critical stage 95 % of the time running dry at that river powers millions of homes and farms.

Usa , china india russia or all of the above to prevent war , nuclear exchange Canada carved up in the biggest trade deal.of the 21 century. Since i see no politician that has the vision to prevent this. We all should begin language training.

You cannot spent squat on the size of military and expect to keep 9.3 million sq km . With this massive resources wealth . Regardless of your political stripe.

This is why dictators and thugs are making a calculation on annexing Canada. The risk of defeat is worth the risk of achieving the conquest.

With in 10 years , Canada needs it armed forces to grow to 300000 and reserves of 150000. 1% of current population. Poland is rapidly expanding to this level /ironic that after being invaded by germans in ww2 and occupied by Russia for 50 years ,what that does to a nations psyche . Canada needs to learn that very quickly.

Sir Winston Churchill in the 1930s was considered washed up ,in the political wilderness for his views on Hitler and pacifism UNTIL SEPT 1939.

If your tired of our Country being butt of jokes then demand a properly expanded and equipped military

[‘Bob’]

It is my hope that Trump will be a big benefit to Canada. The dairy cartel could be gone(costs Canadians billions). New pipelines are being discussed(has cost canadians billions over the last decade), while still low probability.....new talk of removing provincial trade barriers.

Will it happen? Maybe or maybe not but imagine if that was the result.

Trump has quadrupled the price of eggs in the USA.. lol.

Get ready for grocery prices to spike as it turns out all of the undocumented migrants pick your lettuce for you. Hahaha!

[khedrei]

It is my hope that Trump will be a big benefit to Canada. The dairy cartel could be gone(costs Canadians billions). New pipelines are being discussed(has cost canadians billions over the last decade), while still low probability.....new talk of removing provincial trade barriers.

Will it happen? Maybe or maybe not but imagine if that was the result.

Trump has quadrupled the price of eggs in the USA.. lol.

Get ready for grocery prices to spike as it turns out all of the undocumented migrants pick your lettuce for you. Hahaha!

Here is Bob the liar making claims that are so easily disproved. One search shows that eggs in Wisconsin are between 4.29 and around 8 per dozen. So $14 is not true everywhere.

Also, how magical do you think trump is that he controls the price of eggs. It's still a free market. At least mostly. I remember when we had a spike in coliflower in Ontario to the tune of 13 bucks per head. 7 years ago eggs were 0.89 in Wisconsin. Perhaps this makes up for the years of cheap prices.

Get over your TDS already.

[pelmet]

It is my hope that Trump will be a big benefit to Canada. The dairy cartel could be gone(costs Canadians billions). New pipelines are being discussed(has cost canadians billions over the last decade), while still low probability.....new talk of removing provincial trade barriers.

Will it happen? Maybe or maybe not but imagine if that was the result.

Trump has quadrupled the price of eggs in the USA.. lol.

Get ready for grocery prices to spike as it turns out all of the undocumented migrants pick your lettuce for you. Hahaha!

The price of eggs has quadrupled in two weeks. Folks, BOB = zero credibility. Never, ever believe what he says.

As for undocumented deportations leading to higher prices, don’t be surprised if the US does what Canada does sometimes and brings in temporary workers legally. All documented and all tracked including tax payments instead of a massive underground economy.

I really should be both PM and president at the same time. Would keep countries separate by the way(except for making Maui the 11th province).

[GIVCE!]

CANADA meaning in traditional indigenious language. Meaning a collection of huts .

If we as a nation dont get our sh.. together soon we shall return to that meaning. Or become occupied by one of the big 4 within in the next 50 years for our resource wealth. The world population now 8 billion has doubled in 45 years expected to top 11 billion by 2050 this is driving the competion for resources china and india cannot feed itself without massive imports of oil and food. Even today let alone adding another billion each.

Usa running out of water in the bread basket of america the oklahoma nebraska aquifer expected to run dry by 2035, Colorado river at critical stage 95 % of the time running dry at that river powers millions of homes and farms.

Usa , china india russia or all of the above to prevent war , nuclear exchange Canada carved up in the biggest trade deal.of the 21 century. Since i see no politician that has the vision to prevent this. We all should begin language training.

You cannot spent squat on the size of military and expect to keep 9.3 million sq km . With this massive resources wealth . Regardless of your political stripe.

This is why dictators and thugs are making a calculation on annexing Canada. The risk of defeat is worth the risk of achieving the conquest.

With in 10 years , Canada needs it armed forces to grow to 300000 and reserves of 150000. 1% of current population. Poland is rapidly expanding to this level /ironic that after being invaded by germans in ww2 and occupied by Russia for 50 years ,what that does to a nations psyche . Canada needs to learn that very quickly.

Sir Winston Churchill in the 1930s was considered washed up ,in the political wilderness for his views on Hitler and pacifism UNTIL SEPT 1939.

If your tired of our Country being butt of jokes then demand a properly expanded and equipped military

This. So true. We never look far enough ahead, imo. Especially as pilots. Unless it’s when we are literally ‘looking far enough ahead’ when we are flying. Is that why?… snowy musings…I digress. Big changes coming to Canada in the next 50 years. Bank on it.

[Inverted2]

Don’t listen to Bob. They/them has severe TDS and is probably having a bad couple of weeks.

[newlygrounded]

Watching the half-wittery of premiers sending conservation officers and highway traffic cops to do "border security" is hilarious.

My question on this, when did it become the responsibility of Canada to secure the border for the US and prevent southbound traffic from entering the USA ?

Folks buying into that are falling for the rhetoric of a con man telling his minions that we should be preventing folks from entering the US because they aren't capable of doing it themselves.

Unfortunately you are just as mistaken as our Provincial Premiers whom are speaking out of turn as this is a Federal issue and not a provincial one. I wish uncle Doug would shut his trap.

Canada has had a long time standing MOU with our American counter parts. (CBSA/CPB). Sadly we haven’t kept up our part of the bargain. Akin to Canada failing to meet its NATO obligations.

I’m no fan of the 47th American President but Canada hasn’t been fulfilling its obligations. If it takes a loud mouth American President to remind us of it… than so be it.

TPC

Except the tarrifis are due to 30KG of fent (vs 10s of thousands coming in from Mexico) and despite him "not needing" our oil, he said it won't have a tariff now. Don't trust a word he says.

It is my hope that Trump will be a big benefit to Canada. The dairy cartel could be gone(costs Canadians billions). New pipelines are being discussed(has cost canadians billions over the last decade), while still low probability.....new talk of removing provincial trade barriers.

Will it happen? Maybe or maybe not but imagine if that was the result.

Trump has quadrupled the price of eggs in the USA.. lol.

Get ready for grocery prices to spike as it turns out all of the undocumented migrants pick your lettuce for you. Hahaha!

Here is Bob the liar making claims that are so easily disproved. One search shows that eggs in Wisconsin are between 4.29 and around 8 per dozen. So $14 is not true everywhere.

Also, how magical do you think trump is that he controls the price of eggs. It's still a free market. At least mostly. I remember when we had a spike in coliflower in Ontario to the tune of 13 bucks per head. 7 years ago eggs were 0.89 in Wisconsin. Perhaps this makes up for the years of cheap prices.

Get over your TDS already.

Trump froze the CDC and all government grants during a bird flu outbreak...

Don’t listen to Bob. They/them has severe TDS and is probably having a bad couple of weeks.

Weird, the TDS folks said trump wouldn't touch abortion a few years ago and then roe v wade was overturned.

Trump said the Ukraine war would end the DAY AFTER the election and now it's months later, with a 100 day extension given

[Dry Guy]

'Bob' are you okay?

[truecolours]

The tariffs have nothing to do with drugs. That is just an excuse for violating trade agreements.

He said EU tariffs are next. He thinks tariffs are the greatest thing and it seems no country will be left being free of tariffs.

This is his economic policy, NOT a drug policy. It is about bringing jobs back to America (if it works). Do you really think he cares about the number of people ODing? Probably not.

No amount of border patrol is going to reverse his decision. Any money spent on this is wasted. It will be backlash from US citizens over the damage done to them that reverses this (if ever).

Everyone in our industry better start saving their per diems. We (airlines) are going to be hit hard.

[CpnCrunch]

One thing that has been bugging me is: where are the Canadian car companies? He says he doesn't need Canadian cars...but what cars is he talking about???

[just clearing the trees]

You mean, other than the million or so per year that Ontario builds?

[cdnavater]

The tariffs have nothing to do with drugs. That is just an excuse for violating trade agreements.

He said EU tariffs are next. He thinks tariffs are the greatest thing and it seems no country will be left being free of tariffs.

This is his economic policy, NOT a drug policy. It is about bringing jobs back to America (if it works). Do you really think he cares about the number of people ODing? Probably not.

No amount of border patrol is going to reverse his decision. Any money spent on this is wasted. It will be backlash from US citizens over the damage done to them that reverses this (if ever).

Everyone in our industry better start saving their per diems. We (airlines) are going to be hit hard.

I agree about the money wasted on border protection to the extent of who cares what goes south, that is their border to protect. Our job is to prevent things coming into OUR country and you’re correct, he is using the border as an excuse for his tariff agenda without going through parliament!
The truly very sad part of all this, this is the first month of 48!
I will not buy a single thing that says made in the USA going forward, I was out for dinner last night and was ordering a premium drink, I actually searched online to make sure it was Canadian or NOT USA before ordering it.
I say cut this mother fuc ker off of our precious resources, there will be pain while we build refineries to supply CANADIANS with fuel from our own oil but in the end we will be better off.
And fu ck Musk, jacking up the price of Teslas without any reason and coinciding with the tariffs date! 100% tariffs on his cars and export tariffs on our minerals

“Canada is the only country in the Americas with all the minerals needed to manufacture EV batteries, such as nickel, cobalt, graphite and lithium”

Trumps outright lies about the trade deficit, a country with 10% of their population and the deficit is ONLY 50-60 billion and if you exclude oil it’s a surplus, this is how you treat your neighbour and best trade partner, fu ck them all!

[7ECA]

One thing that has been bugging me is: where are the Canadian car companies? He says he doesn't need Canadian cars...but what cars is he talking about???

The companies in Ontario are largely subsidiaries of US parent companies. Ford, General Motors and Fiat Chrysler (Stellantis) come to mind. There's also Toyota and Honda, although those are subsidiaries of their Japanese parent companies.

According to stats from 2023, approximately 16.16 million vehicle units were produced in North America. Of that, 1.55 million units were made in Canada, 4 million in Mexico, and 10.61 million units in the US. According to another set of stats from 2024, 88% of Canadian produced vehicles are exported to the US.

The Canadian Vehicle Manufacturers Association stats show that vehicle manufacturing alone contributes $18 Billion to GDP, and when you include parts that rises to $62.1 Billion (as of 2023).

"Given the highly integrated nature of the auto industry, parts and components may cross Canadian-U.S.-Mexican borders as many as 8 times before being installed in a final assembly"

They're not really Canadian companies, per se, but they sure as hell do contribute a significant amount to GDP... Not to mention, if production ceased, Americans wouldn't be able to purchase Chevy Silverado 1500s or Silverado HDs, Honda Civics, Honda CR-Vs, Toyota RAV4s, Lexus NX or RXs, Chrysler Pacifica/Voyager (Grand Caravan), or the Dodge Charger Daytona.

Having said that, if #47 truly thinks the US can get by without any Canadian exports let's close the borders, turn off the taps, and let the bastards freeze. What good are friends like these to us?

[oldncold]

problem is with comments like that seem to be lack of understanding that we are neighbours to the usa military and the CURRENT commander in chief is itching for an excuse to annex canada. to solve his resources problem grow their economy .

[truecolours]

fresh water is the next centuries oil. they will take us one way or another.

[7ECA]

problem is with comments like that seem to be lack of understanding that we are neighbours to the usa military and the CURRENT commander in chief is itching for an excuse to annex canada. to solve his resources problem grow their economy .

There's always Defence Scheme No. 1.

Beyond that musing, the idea of yet another American "intervention" to win the hearts and minds of a supposedly cowed and downtrodden people longing for democracy, will run into the usual issues that the various recent interventions have, the locals rarely want Uncle Sam interfering in their affairs. For all the supposed support for a hypothetical annexation or becoming a state, the reality on the ground will be much different especially if force is used. Regardless of the comparative sizes of population, or men at arms, taking over a nation as large as Canada will be about as free and easy as Vlad's march on Kyiv...

[oldncold]

With 90 % of the Canadian population within 300km of usa border. Thats all they would need. The rest would be an asymetric campaign. As nearly all of the food n gasoline, for domestic consumption within that km zone.

Currently to overrun Ottawa it just would take : 40,000 special forces airborne , 100 pieces of heavy armour strategically placed to cut off response from Pettawawa , Borden. Destroy the cse site in carp . Defense hq . 50 5th gen fighter jets to crater bagotville, trenton all other runways in the gta n ottawa capital region take out the rail yards to prevent gagetown ,shilo moving the remaining tanks guns by rail. ( we all know what a rail strike does to the economy. ) . N deal with coldlakes 40 year old fighters later that morning. 100 attack heli to back the airborne troops. And drone support. . The C.AF. general staff know this but dont speak publically till near or retired ( tends to be career limiting in the pacifist denial of problem govts)

Its all over in 10 days or less your social largesse dont mean jack.. The political class n cumbye ya screaming 'do something' too fn late > and they will be screaming

Takes 7 years to build a sufficiently lethal combat airforce. 10years a navy 5 years an army

The scary part is do the political class save there ass types carve off the west coast or prairies , east coast to keep the revised Canada of ont an quebec intact? . Hence if you are a restricted licensed gun owner dont be in a hurry to give them back.

Those thay sayn , oldn cold that cant happen . I say BS. . Its not a matter of if . But a matter of timing in the geo political cycle when resource starved country turns from friend to foe. I will quote henry kissinger." Countries do not have friends they have interests as long as those interests are relatively aligned they can remain friendly "

Nato most likely wont help , as article 5 has an escape clause . Each member country has the right to refuse to partiscipate if not in their best interest. In an Usa vs Nato scenario Not going to help us. So Tariffs are the least of Canada problems . Even if we got some help by the time it arrived ottawa would look like gasa . And the nato countries that did help would want huge concessions on our resource wealth firesale prices. .

No offence , but the comment about price of eggs omg really . we could be on the brink of being occupied and your discussing your grocery price list. This small minded thinking is as a country how we have arrived in the pickle we are in.

If I were premier Daniel Smith. Or Pm incoming. Id be on the phone asap in the morning with debit card in hand to Saab to buy 88 Jas Gripen block F fighter Jets with enough spare parts n ammo .that jet lands takes off in 800 meters , off of gravel roads rearm and refuel in 20 min and easy to maintain that a high school kid can do it . Has meteor missle system ( standoff 200 km ) passive detection of stealth fighters. And can out fight f35's. // 7 billion plus spares is about 3 -4 months in oil royalties that alberta receives . A bargin.

Usa and Canada had a renewed columbia river treaty, ready to be signed but it didnt survive the change in adminstration. Thats an 8 billion $ boost to the usa economy. Annually. So ya there is alot canada can do. But ya got to have the military muscle to back it up we dont, have that key aspect to leverage in the trade war puzzle .

I will end this by saying having a large enough 300k plus reserves military properly equipped n trained. Is akin to having a really good fire detection system in a modern urban high-rise. yes its expensive to maintain , but no one argues the lives it saves in a fire. In this case the lives it saves, is the nation we call home.

You all can make a big difference this election cycle by demanding your candidates view on defence spending. voting only for candidates that will increase it. Even the most leftist weany will agree that a good military is a govt job thats great social program. Ps if any of ya got the 'juice'with the politcal makers n shakers show them this fly safe n thx

[Barn-stormer]

It is time Canada starts paying its share into NATO. Or give it the finger and get out.

[BigQ]

The price of eggs has "quadrupled" in 2 weeks because the state of Georgia has banned all chicken farms from exporting products aka live chickens to abattoirs, or eggs to stores.

1. The state of Georgia did it, not Trump.
2. Georgia is the biggest producing state of chicken products in the US (1.28 million meat chickens/week, over 8% of total US production)
3. All this because a bunch of idiots keep on believing that this bird flu epidemic is real. The moment you stop watching the TV, the price of eggs will drop.
4. Don't buy your eggs from the store, even if you find someone with 6 hens in their backyard and get 1 dozen/week from them, they will be more nutritious than 3 dozens of battery cage eggs.

[altiplano]

The US won't need to use muscle.

The house of cards that is Justin Trudeau's Canada is poised to fall on it's own.

The West has been subjugated and unrepresented for 100 years and it's only gotten worse. People are overtaxed and get little in return, the public service is garbage, and money constantly moves East. Cost of living is sky high and still rising. And the Federal interests keep a boot on the West's industry and economy.

A better deal will be proposed by the Americans. The West will leave freely. Then it's divide and conquer for the rest of Canada. Once the West goes it will be desperation in many areas to secure their own deal. In the end Quebec and Ontario will both be smaller as the largely indigenous Northern half of Quebec will leave, Western Ontario will break off.

What's left of Canada will be the Canada of Confederation, and then the deals will end. The population centre there produces little outside the handful of factories and mills remaining, many being American companies anyway. Canadian Financial and Government information economy workers will be obsolete in the failed country. There will be mass unemployment. This is the majority of the Canadian population that have controlled the representation that has ultimately brought this country down. The US will dictate terms to this region's economy to continue, it will be totally reliant on American crumbs.

I remember when I lived in Southern Ontario for a while being told by someone one day on conversation that I lived in the "Real Canada" now. It was completely different to how I thought of things, but maybe it wasn't wrong at all.

Pretty damn sad. Canada. Got woke, went broke. The End.

[CpnCrunch]

You mean, other than the million or so per year that Ontario builds?

Those are all American car companies. Ford and GM. There are no Canadian car companies today.

[newlygrounded]

The tariffs have nothing to do with drugs. That is just an excuse for violating trade agreements.

He said EU tariffs are next. He thinks tariffs are the greatest thing and it seems no country will be left being free of tariffs.

This is his economic policy, NOT a drug policy. It is about bringing jobs back to America (if it works). Do you really think he cares about the number of people ODing? Probably not.

No amount of border patrol is going to reverse his decision. Any money spent on this is wasted. It will be backlash from US citizens over the damage done to them that reverses this (if ever).

Everyone in our industry better start saving their per diems. We (airlines) are going to be hit hard.

It's not even just about jobs, their plan is to eliminate income tax and replace it with a regressive policy (tariffs)