Trump threatens immediate 25% tariffs on Canada

[pelmet]

For ten years, I have been saying on various comment boards how destructive the liberals and NDP(and their supporters) are to this country.

One need simply watch this interview on CBC to understand with the new tariffs coming to see how right I was.....

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canada/c ... i-AA1yf8Mu#

We had a decade of mostly common sense under harper and canadians got greedy for a variety of reasons while others believed obvious lies from the left. Now after a decade of living standards decreasing, things are going to get much worse. This is what happens when the boring common sense people lose out to a variety of groups all screaming for more handouts from the taxpayer or feel good pie in the sky policy changes to satisfy every group except the ones that built this country.

I hope we are lucky and get away with minimal damage from this latest threat.

[newlygrounded]

For ten years, I have been saying on various comment boards how destructive the liberals and NDP(and their supporters) are to this country.

One need simply watch this interview on CBC to understand with the new tariffs coming to see how right I was.....

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canada/c ... i-AA1yf8Mu#

We had a decade of mostly common sense under harper and canadians got greedy for a variety of reasons while others believed obvious lies from the left. Now after a decade of living standards decreasing, things are going to get much worse. This is what happens when the boring common sense people lose out to a variety of groups all screaming for more handouts from the taxpayer or feel good pie in the sky policy changes to satisfy every group except the ones that built this country.

I hope we are lucky and get away with minimal damage from this latest threat.

Speaking of Lies, I'll stop you right there, trump did a 180 and said nothing we can do would change the tarrifs. It was all a lie from day 1!

https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/ ... 025-01-31/

[pelmet]

For ten years, I have been saying on various comment boards how destructive the liberals and NDP(and their supporters) are to this country.

One need simply watch this interview on CBC to understand with the new tariffs coming to see how right I was.....

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canada/c ... i-AA1yf8Mu#

We had a decade of mostly common sense under harper and canadians got greedy for a variety of reasons while others believed obvious lies from the left. Now after a decade of living standards decreasing, things are going to get much worse. This is what happens when the boring common sense people lose out to a variety of groups all screaming for more handouts from the taxpayer or feel good pie in the sky policy changes to satisfy every group except the ones that built this country.

I hope we are lucky and get away with minimal damage from this latest threat.

Speaking of Lies, I'll stop you right there, trump did a 180 and said nothing we can do would change the tarrifs. It was all a lie from day 1!

https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/ ... 025-01-31/

Hmmm.....we seem to have a difference of opinion of the reasons for tariffs. Here is the Bio for CHRISTIAN LEUPRECHT. NewlyGrounded can give his impressive Bio separately. Thanks.

Christian Leuprecht is Chief of the Canadian Military Journal. He also directs the Institute of Intergovernmental Relations in the School of Policy Studies, is an Adjunct Research Professor in the Australian Graduate School of Policing and Security at Charles Sturt University and a senior fellow at the Macdonald Laurier Institute. He is a former Bicentennial Professor in Canadian Studies at Yale University, Matthew Flinders Fellow at Flinders University of South Australia, Eisenhower Fellow at the NATO Defence College, and Fulbright Research Chair in Canada–US Relations at John Hopkins University’s School for Advanced International Studies. Christian is an elected member of the College of New Scholars of the Royal Society of Canada and recipient of the Cowan Prize for Excellence in Research at the Royal Military College of Canada. He holds an Ontario provincial appointment to the Kingston Police Services Board. His books include Intelligence as Democratic Statecraft (Oxford University Press, 2021).

Christian Leuprecht (PH.D, Queen’s) is class of 1965 Professor in Leadership, Department of Political Science and Economics, Royal Military College and Eisenhower Fellow at the NATO Defence College in Rome. He is cross-appointed, Department of Political Studies and the School of Policy Studies, Queen’s University and Adjunct Research Professor, Australian Graduate School of Policing and Security, Charles Sturt University as well as the Centre for Crime Policy and Research, Flinders University. A recipient of RMC’s Cowan Prize for Excellence in Research and an elected member of the College of New Scholars of the Royal Society of Canada, he is also Munk Senior Fellow in Security and Defence at the MacDonald Laurier Institute.

[newlygrounded]

For ten years, I have been saying on various comment boards how destructive the liberals and NDP(and their supporters) are to this country.

One need simply watch this interview on CBC to understand with the new tariffs coming to see how right I was.....

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canada/c ... i-AA1yf8Mu#

We had a decade of mostly common sense under harper and canadians got greedy for a variety of reasons while others believed obvious lies from the left. Now after a decade of living standards decreasing, things are going to get much worse. This is what happens when the boring common sense people lose out to a variety of groups all screaming for more handouts from the taxpayer or feel good pie in the sky policy changes to satisfy every group except the ones that built this country.

I hope we are lucky and get away with minimal damage from this latest threat.

Speaking of Lies, I'll stop you right there, trump did a 180 and said nothing we can do would change the tarrifs. It was all a lie from day 1!

https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/ ... 025-01-31/

Hmmm.....we seem to have a difference of opinion of the reasons for tariffs. Here is the Bio for CHRISTIAN LEUPRECHT. NewlyGrounded can give his impressive Bio separately. Thanks.

Christian Leuprecht is Chief of the Canadian Military Journal. He also directs the Institute of Intergovernmental Relations in the School of Policy Studies, is an Adjunct Research Professor in the Australian Graduate School of Policing and Security at Charles Sturt University and a senior fellow at the Macdonald Laurier Institute. He is a former Bicentennial Professor in Canadian Studies at Yale University, Matthew Flinders Fellow at Flinders University of South Australia, Eisenhower Fellow at the NATO Defence College, and Fulbright Research Chair in Canada–US Relations at John Hopkins University’s School for Advanced International Studies. Christian is an elected member of the College of New Scholars of the Royal Society of Canada and recipient of the Cowan Prize for Excellence in Research at the Royal Military College of Canada. He holds an Ontario provincial appointment to the Kingston Police Services Board. His books include Intelligence as Democratic Statecraft (Oxford University Press, 2021).

Christian Leuprecht (PH.D, Queen’s) is class of 1965 Professor in Leadership, Department of Political Science and Economics, Royal Military College and Eisenhower Fellow at the NATO Defence College in Rome. He is cross-appointed, Department of Political Studies and the School of Policy Studies, Queen’s University and Adjunct Research Professor, Australian Graduate School of Policing and Security, Charles Sturt University as well as the Centre for Crime Policy and Research, Flinders University. A recipient of RMC’s Cowan Prize for Excellence in Research and an elected member of the College of New Scholars of the Royal Society of Canada, he is also Munk Senior Fellow in Security and Defence at the MacDonald Laurier Institute.

I don’t care about his bio, if trump is specifically saying he doesn’t care about what we do at the border when it comes to these new taxes (and that he wants to eliminate income tax and replace it with tariffs income) why are you not talking that into account?

[rookiepilot]

Signed.

https://www.forexlive.com/news/white-ho ... -20250201/

[Dry Guy]

My question on this, when did it become the responsibility of Canada to secure the border for the US and prevent southbound traffic from entering the USA ?

Canadians in Surrey import tons of precursors through the port in Vancouver and then makes industrial quantities of Fentanyl. They've been doing it for a decade. Canada is also setup for money laundering (called snow laundering). It's basically the financial capital of global organized crime.

[rookiepilot]

My question on this, when did it become the responsibility of Canada to secure the border for the US and prevent southbound traffic from entering the USA ?

Canadians in Surrey import tons of precursors through the port in Vancouver and then makes industrial quantities of Fentanyl. They've been doing it for a decade. Canada is also setup for money laundering (called snow laundering). It's basically the financial capital of global organized crime.

BC in particular. Countless residents with multimillion dollar homes and little declared income, bought with bags of cash. It’s been explicitly invited in by successive leftist government’s there. As corrupted as any place you can name.

[2R]

[YouTube] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Es8F-mdNVCc [/YouTube]

For those that remember the sixties

[rookiepilot]

Options:

Close Canadian Airspace.
Halt all oil , lumber, electricity exports.

Would get attention.

[pelmet]

Speaking of Lies, I'll stop you right there, trump did a 180 and said nothing we can do would change the tarrifs. It was all a lie from day 1!

https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/ ... 025-01-31/

Hmmm.....we seem to have a difference of opinion of the reasons for tariffs. Here is the Bio for CHRISTIAN LEUPRECHT. NewlyGrounded can give his impressive Bio separately. Thanks.

Christian Leuprecht is Chief of the Canadian Military Journal. He also directs the Institute of Intergovernmental Relations in the School of Policy Studies, is an Adjunct Research Professor in the Australian Graduate School of Policing and Security at Charles Sturt University and a senior fellow at the Macdonald Laurier Institute. He is a former Bicentennial Professor in Canadian Studies at Yale University, Matthew Flinders Fellow at Flinders University of South Australia, Eisenhower Fellow at the NATO Defence College, and Fulbright Research Chair in Canada–US Relations at John Hopkins University’s School for Advanced International Studies. Christian is an elected member of the College of New Scholars of the Royal Society of Canada and recipient of the Cowan Prize for Excellence in Research at the Royal Military College of Canada. He holds an Ontario provincial appointment to the Kingston Police Services Board. His books include Intelligence as Democratic Statecraft (Oxford University Press, 2021).

Christian Leuprecht (PH.D, Queen’s) is class of 1965 Professor in Leadership, Department of Political Science and Economics, Royal Military College and Eisenhower Fellow at the NATO Defence College in Rome. He is cross-appointed, Department of Political Studies and the School of Policy Studies, Queen’s University and Adjunct Research Professor, Australian Graduate School of Policing and Security, Charles Sturt University as well as the Centre for Crime Policy and Research, Flinders University. A recipient of RMC’s Cowan Prize for Excellence in Research and an elected member of the College of New Scholars of the Royal Society of Canada, he is also Munk Senior Fellow in Security and Defence at the MacDonald Laurier Institute.

I don’t care about his bio, if trump is specifically saying he doesn’t care about what we do at the border when it comes to these new taxes (and that he wants to eliminate income tax and replace it with tariffs income) why are you not talking that into account?

I know you don't care about his Bio and I know you won't give us your Bio(which would prove that he has ten time the credibility of your credibility, if not more). How about getting a bit of credibility and give some responses to each point he made. if not, then please don't respond.

[7ECA]

With 90 % of the Canadian population within 300km of usa border. Thats all they would need. The rest would be an asymetric campaign. As nearly all of the food n gasoline, for domestic consumption within that km zone.

Currently to overrun Ottawa it just would take : 40,000 special forces airborne...

Again, you're making the same assumptions military planners have wrongly made for decades, that the "liberated" population A. Wants to be liberated. B. Will welcome their liberators with open arms. That's rarely been the case, and especially not the case when it comes to recent US interventions in various states, including Afghanistan and Iraq.

As for your statement around personnel and equipment required, where exactly is all this manpower and materiel coming from? The US Special Forces have an authorized strength of just 33,805 with approximately 32,500 on strength. It's also all well and good to point out that the total US military strength in 2022 was 1.4 Million personnel, but remember that they are spread across the US and throughout the world at various bases, on deployment, etc. So where exactly are these hypothetical invasion troops coming from? What military deployments or obligations are going to be neglected? With troops and equipment spread across the globe, how long will it take to move everything in to place? The logistics of this hypothetical operation are significantly more complicated than you realize.

It’s been explicitly invited in by successive leftist government’s there. As corrupted as any place you can name.

Rookie, really? I'm sure most people will be quite surprised to learn that Gordon Campbell and Christy Clark were "leftists". They were both dyed in the wool Socreds, so nice try bud.

[newlygrounded]

Hmmm.....we seem to have a difference of opinion of the reasons for tariffs. Here is the Bio for CHRISTIAN LEUPRECHT. NewlyGrounded can give his impressive Bio separately. Thanks.

Christian Leuprecht is Chief of the Canadian Military Journal. He also directs the Institute of Intergovernmental Relations in the School of Policy Studies, is an Adjunct Research Professor in the Australian Graduate School of Policing and Security at Charles Sturt University and a senior fellow at the Macdonald Laurier Institute. He is a former Bicentennial Professor in Canadian Studies at Yale University, Matthew Flinders Fellow at Flinders University of South Australia, Eisenhower Fellow at the NATO Defence College, and Fulbright Research Chair in Canada–US Relations at John Hopkins University’s School for Advanced International Studies. Christian is an elected member of the College of New Scholars of the Royal Society of Canada and recipient of the Cowan Prize for Excellence in Research at the Royal Military College of Canada. He holds an Ontario provincial appointment to the Kingston Police Services Board. His books include Intelligence as Democratic Statecraft (Oxford University Press, 2021).

Christian Leuprecht (PH.D, Queen’s) is class of 1965 Professor in Leadership, Department of Political Science and Economics, Royal Military College and Eisenhower Fellow at the NATO Defence College in Rome. He is cross-appointed, Department of Political Studies and the School of Policy Studies, Queen’s University and Adjunct Research Professor, Australian Graduate School of Policing and Security, Charles Sturt University as well as the Centre for Crime Policy and Research, Flinders University. A recipient of RMC’s Cowan Prize for Excellence in Research and an elected member of the College of New Scholars of the Royal Society of Canada, he is also Munk Senior Fellow in Security and Defence at the MacDonald Laurier Institute.

I don’t care about his bio, if trump is specifically saying he doesn’t care about what we do at the border when it comes to these new taxes (and that he wants to eliminate income tax and replace it with tariffs income) why are you not talking that into account?

I know you don't care about his Bio and I know you won't give us your Bio(which would prove that he has ten time the credibility of your credibility, if not more). How about getting a bit of credibility and give some responses to each point he made. if not, then please don't respond.

I’ll give you the floor, please. Let me know, What is your interpretation of Trump originally stating that the border was the reason he Enacted these tariffs, Then later changed his mind and said no matter what you do I’m not going to take them off.

Secondly, he has stated that he would like to abolish income tax, and these new tariffs are the only way they would be able to achieve that.

Trump has also stated that he is going to tarrif imports from EU countries, can you let me know how many of them share land border with the US?

Please use some critical thinking and give me your analysis! Or just run away because I’m not going to dox myself

[rookiepilot]

With 90 % of the Canadian population within 300km of usa border. Thats all they would need. The rest would be an asymetric campaign. As nearly all of the food n gasoline, for domestic consumption within that km zone.

Currently to overrun Ottawa it just would take : 40,000 special forces airborne...

Again, you're making the same assumptions military planners have wrongly made for decades, that the "liberated" population A. Wants to be liberated. B. Will welcome their liberators with open arms. That's rarely been the case, and especially not the case when it comes to recent US interventions in various states, including Afghanistan and Iraq.

As for your statement around personnel and equipment required, where exactly is all this manpower and materiel coming from? The US Special Forces have an authorized strength of just 33,805 with approximately 32,500 on strength. It's also all well and good to point out that the total US military strength in 2022 was 1.4 Million personnel, but remember that they are spread across the US and throughout the world at various bases, on deployment, etc. So where exactly are these hypothetical invasion troops coming from? What military deployments or obligations are going to be neglected? With troops and equipment spread across the globe, how long will it take to move everything in to place? The logistics of this hypothetical operation are significantly more complicated than you realize.

It’s been explicitly invited in by successive leftist government’s there. As corrupted as any place you can name.

Rookie, really? I'm sure most people will be quite surprised to learn that Gordon Campbell and Christy Clark were "leftists". They were both dyed in the wool Socreds, so nice try bud.

This is BC, though. Left anywhere else is considered centrist there.

[7ECA]

This is BC, though. Left anywhere else is considered centrist there.

Is that supposed to be a joke or an insult? It's a ridiculous thing to say, regardless of the fact that you're from Ontario and thus the centre of the universe...

We're all in this together, and while Ontario and Alberta will be hit hard by these tariffs due to their lack of export diversification, all Canadians will feel the impact of this trade war. And let's not mince words, this is a trade war - and our sovereignty is being threatened by a tyrant who seeks to divide us.

I'll take hope, though, from displays such as those seen at this evening's Senators game when fans booed the US anthem as an indication of how people really feel about this situation.

[daedalusx]

I'll take hope, though, from displays such as those seen at this evening's Senators game when fans booed the US anthem as an indication of how people really feel about this situation.

Oh I'm sure the Americans are quaking in their boots

Maybe Trudeau should try calling Trump again, such a display of strength and unity, surely he'll pick up the phone this time

[Daniel Cooper]

Keep egging him on. I especially like the tariffs only on red states. Nobody that votes conservative will be getting money. Consider yourself debanked. Remember to you have to stand up to bullies like Trump. It will cause him to back down and admit defeat.

[oldncold]

I stand by my comments. The reason the pm avoided sovereignty n military aspect is obvious. We do not have the capacity to deal with those issues.

Trump itchn to invade canada.to solve its resources problems. Lets not give any more foolish ideas . We are talking small potatoes where trump is wanting to swallow the whole
Enchilada .

[Sulako]

It appears to me that the tariffs were going to happen no matter what. Trump made that pretty clear. He made no attempt to negotiate or acknowledge the Canadian government's immediate beefing up of border security. I wonder if it is a negotiating ploy for a quick boost in popularity - maybe in a few days he will announce that Canada has made some concessions and acceeded to his demands and then drop tariffs while also claiming victory to his supporter base.

I don't see how this is going to lower the cost of living for Americans, but it seems that idea has very quickly faded from his supporter's consciousnesses. Or maybe he will keep the tariffs and use the money to lower income tax for the rich? His new tax plan lowers taxes for those Americans households making over 360K/year while raising taxes on the 96% of American households who make less than that.

[altiplano]

I'll take hope, though, from displays such as those seen at this evening's Senators game when fans booed the US anthem as an indication of how people really feel about this situation.

Booing an anthem is horrible behaviour. Reactionary. Classless.

A little push and off we go in a tantrum.

We brought this on ourselves by being weak and woke. We need to toughen up and strengthen our position.

[Inverted2]

I'll take hope, though, from displays such as those seen at this evening's Senators game when fans booed the US anthem as an indication of how people really feel about this situation.

Booing an anthem is horrible behaviour. Reactionary. Classless.

A little push and off we go in a tantrum.

We brought this on ourselves by being weak and woke. We need to toughen up and strengthen our position.

The way things are going, that’s going to be our national anthem soon.

[rookiepilot]

I'll take hope, though, from displays such as those seen at this evening's Senators game when fans booed the US anthem as an indication of how people really feel about this situation.

Booing an anthem is horrible behaviour. Reactionary. Classless.

A little push and off we go in a tantrum.

We brought this on ourselves by being weak and woke. We need to toughen up and strengthen our position.

I agree — we have been weak, woke, and stupid— but its still a betrayal by our closest ally and a violation of USMCA. This is nothing to do with drugs. He wants the world to pay their bills — their exploding deficits. So he’s lying through his teeth.

As a Canadian with many American friends I am really pissed and ready to take a hard line. Like cutting off critical exports. Closing airspace.

I don’t care if he changes his mind tomorrow. Time to reorient our world towards Asia. The new leaders of the world.

[digits_]

I'll take hope, though, from displays such as those seen at this evening's Senators game when fans booed the US anthem as an indication of how people really feel about this situation.

Booing an anthem is horrible behaviour. Reactionary. Classless.

A little push and off we go in a tantrum.

And yet it's one of the only things us normal citizens can do at the moment. If it becomes the norm it might even have some effect: show support for a response from our government and show the regular citizens from our Southern neighbor we're not happy.

[Barn-stormer]

Well, is it okay now for the US people to boo and give Canada the finger?

[digits_]

Well, is it okay now for the US people to boo and give Canada the finger?

Their president started it, so what's your point?

[702pipeliner]

Well, is it okay now for the US people to boo and give Canada the finger?

I mean they kinda did. But the boo is the hot air coming from the white house and the middle fingers are 25% tariffs.

Caught up? Good good