Trump threatens immediate 25% tariffs on Canada
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Re: Trump threatens immediate 25% tariffs on Canada
At this point in my life, I'd we got annexed by the US, you wouldn't hear me complaining nor would I offer any resistance. That is of course as long as we were actually the 51st state and not just sitting around waiting for scraps. If the last 5 years have taught me anything, it's that the citizens of this country are a joke. They couldn't stand up for what was right when it mattered. Now they are paying for it (and complaining about what they voted for and cheered on themselves). The US might be on a slide down a steep hill, but I'm pretty sure I'm old enough to live out the rest of my days reasonably happy before they self implode.
Re: Trump threatens immediate 25% tariffs on Canada
Someone that can actually do damage called him out on his lies.
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Hi Russian troll.
Trump is an 80 year old elementary school kid who doesn't know how to think critically. Everything he does is unplanned and reactionary. Just look at how many times Trump change the plan in as many days.
What Trudeau did was let Trump retire from the battlefield gracefully rather than to continue to escalate. Thats real negotiation.
"The Art of the Deal." Forget Trump not writing it, he's never even read it!
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What were we supposed to stand up to? And please I’m all ears to know when in history has a man pointing a gun at someone actually ended up giving someone a fair deal?khedrei wrote: ↑Mon Feb 03, 2025 5:20 pm At this point in my life, I'd we got annexed by the US, you wouldn't hear me complaining nor would I offer any resistance. That is of course as long as we were actually the 51st state and not just sitting around waiting for scraps. If the last 5 years have taught me anything, it's that the citizens of this country are a joke. They couldn't stand up for what was right when it mattered. Now they are paying for it (and complaining about what they voted for and cheered on themselves). The US might be on a slide down a steep hill, but I'm pretty sure I'm old enough to live out the rest of my days reasonably happy before they self implode.
What happened to trump saying there is nothing Canada or the US can do? To suddenly suspending his plans?
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Do you think it’s a coincidence that both Mexico and Canada came up with the same number, not hard to draw a straight line from 10,000 troops(personnel) to the man on the other end of the call!
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Huh? I think you've misunderstood me.newlygrounded wrote: ↑Mon Feb 03, 2025 5:23 pmWhat were we supposed to stand up to? And please I’m all ears to know when in history has a man pointing a gun at someone actually ended up giving someone a fair deal?khedrei wrote: ↑Mon Feb 03, 2025 5:20 pm At this point in my life, I'd we got annexed by the US, you wouldn't hear me complaining nor would I offer any resistance. That is of course as long as we were actually the 51st state and not just sitting around waiting for scraps. If the last 5 years have taught me anything, it's that the citizens of this country are a joke. They couldn't stand up for what was right when it mattered. Now they are paying for it (and complaining about what they voted for and cheered on themselves). The US might be on a slide down a steep hill, but I'm pretty sure I'm old enough to live out the rest of my days reasonably happy before they self implode.
What happened to trump saying there is nothing Canada or the US can do? To suddenly suspending his plans?
What no one stood up to was everything that happened in 2020, 2021, and especially Feb 2022. What led up to that, and proceeded that was the support of a weak, useless leader that led to what we are dealing with now. The attitudes of the citizens of this country have caught up to them. And yet there are still people that would support trudeau because they don't like Pierre. I can't stand trump, but I still knew he was the clear choice out of the trash the Americans managed to dig up and present as leaders of the free world.
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Wait, are you suggesting that Trump can read?!‘Bob’ wrote: ↑Mon Feb 03, 2025 5:22 pmHi Russian troll.
Trump is an 80 year old elementary school kid who doesn't know how to think critically. Everything he does is unplanned and reactionary. Just look at how many times Trump change the plan in as many days.
What Trudeau did was let Trump retire from the battlefield gracefully rather than to continue to escalate. Thats real negotiation.
"The Art of the Deal." Forget Trump not writing it, he's never even read it!
If we didn't think you were a big enough troll before Bob....
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Actually I was wrong. Trudeau had detailed the 1.3 billion dollar border plan on Dec 18.
So basically Trump is declaring victory over absolutely nothing.. but not before alienating his allies and destabilizing markets.
Bye traitor. Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.
So basically Trump is declaring victory over absolutely nothing.. but not before alienating his allies and destabilizing markets.
Bye traitor. Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.
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Re: Trump threatens immediate 25% tariffs on Canada
We wouldn’t be the 51rst state.khedrei wrote: ↑Mon Feb 03, 2025 5:20 pm At this point in my life, I'd we got annexed by the US, you wouldn't hear me complaining nor would I offer any resistance. That is of course as long as we were actually the 51st state and not just sitting around waiting for scraps. If the last 5 years have taught me anything, it's that the citizens of this country are a joke. They couldn't stand up for what was right when it mattered. Now they are paying for it (and complaining about what they voted for and cheered on themselves). The US might be on a slide down a steep hill, but I'm pretty sure I'm old enough to live out the rest of my days reasonably happy before they self implode.
The last week has convinced me — its not just Trump, but the lack of support from American’s— we are nothing more than another resource rich country for them to loot. Like any African shithole.
Nothing like pissing on the graves of those we lost beside them in Afghanistan.
I have realized how Canadian I am really am.
I feel upset and betrayed.
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I fear you are correct.rookiepilot wrote: ↑Mon Feb 03, 2025 6:09 pmWe wouldn’t be the 51rst state.khedrei wrote: ↑Mon Feb 03, 2025 5:20 pm At this point in my life, I'd we got annexed by the US, you wouldn't hear me complaining nor would I offer any resistance. That is of course as long as we were actually the 51st state and not just sitting around waiting for scraps. If the last 5 years have taught me anything, it's that the citizens of this country are a joke. They couldn't stand up for what was right when it mattered. Now they are paying for it (and complaining about what they voted for and cheered on themselves). The US might be on a slide down a steep hill, but I'm pretty sure I'm old enough to live out the rest of my days reasonably happy before they self implode.
The last week has convinced me — its not just Trump, but the lack of support from American’s— we are nothing more than another resource rich country for them to loot. Like any African shithole.
Nothing like pissing on the graves of those we lost beside them in Afghanistan.
I feel upset and betrayed.
That being said, I didn't think trump was going to be the savior everyone seemed to think he was going to be. I didn't expect much from him. But like you, I didn't think he would deliberately try to destroy canada. If anything, I figured it would be a byproduct of his stupidity.
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There is no way Canada can muster up 10000 soldiers. It will likely look like 10000 Uber Eats/CATSA workers at the border. 

DEI = Didn’t Earn It
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A recent report said our military members are more out of shape than the general population. It will be good for them to get out there and guard the 8900km of frozen wilderness.
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Guys, we got 3 battalions of infantrymen in Latvia. Cobbled together from scraping EVERY. SINGLE. REGIMENT of all their infantrymen. We have 0 infantry on Canadian soil right now, only support battalions and JTF2/CSOR - and many of those guys are in Europe as well.
We probably don't even have 10,000 Army soldiers. So our feds bought a month, that's it.
The feds came to the realization that it costs less to suffer 25% tariffs than to clean up the extensive money laundering operations in our country.
We probably don't even have 10,000 Army soldiers. So our feds bought a month, that's it.
The feds came to the realization that it costs less to suffer 25% tariffs than to clean up the extensive money laundering operations in our country.
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The news stories just say "10,000 personnel", not specifically soldiers.
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They could certainly make more efficient use of their current customs personnel. We somehow still need 3 different officials to mark, check and collect your arrival report.
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That's only IF they don't lose it and accuse you of not filing one when you arrive. If (or should I say, when) that happens, they need another guy to get involved to talk the first guys down from their threats.Tbayer2021 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 03, 2025 8:29 pm
They could certainly make more efficient use of their current customs personnel. We somehow still need 3 different officials to mark, check and collect your arrival report.
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Probably the most comical post I've read.
oldncold wrote: ↑Sat Feb 01, 2025 2:43 am With 90 % of the Canadian population within 300km of usa border. Thats all they would need. The rest would be an asymetric campaign. As nearly all of the food n gasoline, for domestic consumption within that km zone.
Currently to overrun Ottawa it just would take : 40,000 special forces airborne , 100 pieces of heavy armour strategically placed to cut off response from Pettawawa , Borden. Destroy the cse site in carp . Defense hq . 50 5th gen fighter jets to crater bagotville, trenton all other runways in the gta n ottawa capital region take out the rail yards to prevent gagetown ,shilo moving the remaining tanks guns by rail. ( we all know what a rail strike does to the economy. ) . N deal with coldlakes 40 year old fighters later that morning. 100 attack heli to back the airborne troops. And drone support. . The C.AF. general staff know this but dont speak publically till near or retired ( tends to be career limiting in the pacifist denial of problem govts)
Its all over in 10 days or less your social largesse dont mean jack.. The political class n cumbye ya screaming 'do something' too fn late > and they will be screaming
Takes 7 years to build a sufficiently lethal combat airforce. 10years a navy 5 years an army
The scary part is do the political class save there ass types carve off the west coast or prairies , east coast to keep the revised Canada of ont an quebec intact? . Hence if you are a restricted licensed gun owner dont be in a hurry to give them back.
Those thay sayn , oldn cold that cant happen . I say BS. . Its not a matter of if . But a matter of timing in the geo political cycle when resource starved country turns from friend to foe. I will quote henry kissinger." Countries do not have friends they have interests as long as those interests are relatively aligned they can remain friendly "
Nato most likely wont help , as article 5 has an escape clause . Each member country has the right to refuse to partiscipate if not in their best interest. In an Usa vs Nato scenario Not going to help us. So Tariffs are the least of Canada problems . Even if we got some help by the time it arrived ottawa would look like gasa . And the nato countries that did help would want huge concessions on our resource wealth firesale prices. .
No offence , but the comment about price of eggs omg really . we could be on the brink of being occupied and your discussing your grocery price list. This small minded thinking is as a country how we have arrived in the pickle we are in.
If I were premier Daniel Smith. Or Pm incoming. Id be on the phone asap in the morning with debit card in hand to Saab to buy 88 Jas Gripen block F fighter Jets with enough spare parts n ammo .that jet lands takes off in 800 meters , off of gravel roads rearm and refuel in 20 min and easy to maintain that a high school kid can do it . Has meteor missle system ( standoff 200 km ) passive detection of stealth fighters. And can out fight f35's. // 7 billion plus spares is about 3 -4 months in oil royalties that alberta receives . A bargin.
Usa and Canada had a renewed columbia river treaty, ready to be signed but it didnt survive the change in adminstration. Thats an 8 billion $ boost to the usa economy. Annually. So ya there is alot canada can do. But ya got to have the military muscle to back it up we dont, have that key aspect to leverage in the trade war puzzle .
I will end this by saying having a large enough 300k plus reserves military properly equipped n trained. Is akin to having a really good fire detection system in a modern urban high-rise. yes its expensive to maintain , but no one argues the lives it saves in a fire. In this case the lives it saves, is the nation we call home.
You all can make a big difference this election cycle by demanding your candidates view on defence spending. voting only for candidates that will increase it. Even the most leftist weany will agree that a good military is a govt job thats great social program. Ps if any of ya got the 'juice'with the politcal makers n shakers show them this fly safe n thx
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Imagine having only a high school/trade school education and thinking you understand anything in the world around you.
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What didn't "they" stand up for when it mattered?
Are you mad because those who don't think like you outnumber you 10:1?
Are you suggesting 77M out of 400M Americans got it right?
Are you mad because those who don't think like you outnumber you 10:1?
Are you suggesting 77M out of 400M Americans got it right?
khedrei wrote: ↑Mon Feb 03, 2025 5:20 pm At this point in my life, I'd we got annexed by the US, you wouldn't hear me complaining nor would I offer any resistance. That is of course as long as we were actually the 51st state and not just sitting around waiting for scraps. If the last 5 years have taught me anything, it's that the citizens of this country are a joke. They couldn't stand up for what was right when it mattered. Now they are paying for it (and complaining about what they voted for and cheered on themselves). The US might be on a slide down a steep hill, but I'm pretty sure I'm old enough to live out the rest of my days reasonably happy before they self implode.
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To be clear, just as in Mexico, there will not be a single, new person working the border.
Mexican broadcasters were already mentioning that they are using the same 10K government employees they promised 8 years ago to fill the promised 10K.
The same thing will occur in Canada.
Trump won't care because he doesn't care about fentanyl or the border.
He simply doesn't understand how tariffs work. Makes you wonder if the rumors of his father buying his son's way into Penn and then donating a building so he would get a degree are more than just rumors.
Mexican broadcasters were already mentioning that they are using the same 10K government employees they promised 8 years ago to fill the promised 10K.
The same thing will occur in Canada.
Trump won't care because he doesn't care about fentanyl or the border.
He simply doesn't understand how tariffs work. Makes you wonder if the rumors of his father buying his son's way into Penn and then donating a building so he would get a degree are more than just rumors.
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He 100% understands, he just wants to offset his promise of eliminating income tax with another source of revenue.kgb531 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 03, 2025 10:16 pm To be clear, just as in Mexico, there will not be a single, new person working the border.
Mexican broadcasters were already mentioning that they are using the same 10K government employees they promised 8 years ago to fill the promised 10K.
The same thing will occur in Canada.
Trump won't care because he doesn't care about fentanyl or the border.
He simply doesn't understand how tariffs work. Makes you wonder if the rumors of his father buying his son's way into Penn and then donating a building so he would get a degree are more than just rumors.
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Trump wants rare earth from Ukraine, as payment for military assistance.
What's a resource that Canada has a lot of?
What's a resource that Canada has a lot of?
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There’s a nearly inexhaustible supply of hot air and bullshit in Ottawa!
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To be fair, that's only what gets detected. Theoretically we could have a hundred times that amount slip through. Then again the US wouldn't know the real numbers either.
As an AvCanada discussion grows longer:
-the probability of 'entitlement' being mentioned, approaches 1
-one will be accused of using bad airmanship
-the probability of 'entitlement' being mentioned, approaches 1
-one will be accused of using bad airmanship