Hi Duke,
I mean this respectfully, I doubt there is much difference to those wanting a base other than YYZ. They are rolling the dice the same way, except at Jazz or AC there is still a possibility of getting your desired base on day 3, with Porter it seems you will at the very least be Toronto for initial training and then maybe another base.
I’d be willing to bet real Canadian pesos that if they wanted a different base other than YYZ, they would prefer a course where you draw you seniority and pick from different offered bases based on said seniority, a fighting chance if you will.
No perfect system seems to exist at this point
Then don't accept a YYZ spot. If the job ad says YVR, tell the recruiter that you're looking for YVR, and can wait patiently for a YVR spot to become available.
That’s not how seniority works dude, if they turn down Toronto, the ones who take the job are offered YVR before any OTS pilots, if they hire directly for YVR while on property pilots want it, guess what happens to morale!
Some people aren’t looking for seniority, some people are looking at the base they will get hired at. Sure, internals get first go at it. But YVR has been pretty junior, especially on the FO side. So maybe there will be base specific jobs in the future.
Yes seniority is a the only number that matters in the end. But you’re also forgetting that a large chunk of these hires like where they live, or will be moving on to “big red” cuz it’s so awesome there.
Then don't accept a YYZ spot. If the job ad says YVR, tell the recruiter that you're looking for YVR, and can wait patiently for a YVR spot to become available.
That’s not how seniority works dude, if they turn down Toronto, the ones who take the job are offered YVR before any OTS pilots, if they hire directly for YVR while on property pilots want it, guess what happens to morale!
Some people aren’t looking for seniority, some people are looking at the base they will get hired at. Sure, internals get first go at it. But YVR has been pretty junior, especially on the FO side. So maybe there will be base specific jobs in the future.
Yes seniority is a the only number that matters in the end. But you’re also forgetting that a large chunk of these hires like where they live, or will be moving on to “big red” cuz it’s so awesome there.
If you saw the pensions that most AC pilots will be retiring to, you would in fact call it ‘awesome’.
A solid T4 is great. But imagine most of your retirement planning being taken care of just by going to work?
Pay. Pension. Benefits. Working conditions. Job security. QOL. These are all factors for consideration. There is no ‘perfect’ yet in Canada. But there are some on aggregate that are better than others.
cdnavater wrote: ↑Wed Nov 20, 2024 6:12 pm
That’s not how seniority works dude, if they turn down Toronto, the ones who take the job are offered YVR before any OTS pilots, if they hire directly for YVR while on property pilots want it, guess what happens to morale!
Some people aren’t looking for seniority, some people are looking at the base they will get hired at. Sure, internals get first go at it. But YVR has been pretty junior, especially on the FO side. So maybe there will be base specific jobs in the future.
Yes seniority is a the only number that matters in the end. But you’re also forgetting that a large chunk of these hires like where they live, or will be moving on to “big red” cuz it’s so awesome there.
If you saw the pensions that most AC pilots will be retiring to, you would in fact call it ‘awesome’.
A solid T4 is great. But imagine most of your retirement planning being taken care of just by going to work?
Pay. Pension. Benefits. Working conditions. Job security. QOL. These are all factors for consideration. There is no ‘perfect’ yet in Canada. But there are some on aggregate that are better than others.
Isn’t the pension AC guys/gals are on now the TB CWIPP? I agree that Porter needs to do waaaaay better for retirement funding but CWIPP doesn’t seem like anything crazy tbh. The pension WJ pilots just got would actually be worth bragging about. If your financial institution is competent and handling your RRSP isn’t your retirement finances also not being taken care of just for going to work?
