Best Gun to protect the Home Front?

just clearing the trees · Tue Dec 13, 2005 1:42 pm

One question. How do you get the gun unlocked and/or out of it's locked cabinet, get out the ammo, load the weapon, acquire your target and fire before he gets to you, especially when you consider that this scenario is most likely happening at night, while you were asleep and the perpetrator has the drop on you?

Walker · Post by **Walker** » Tue Dec 13, 2005 2:17 pm

Read my sugestion about the M3M.... Auto Turrets.....

grimey · Post by **grimey** » Tue Dec 13, 2005 3:26 pm

just clearing the trees wrote:One question. How do you get the gun unlocked and/or out of it's locked cabinet, get out the ammo, load the weapon, acquire your target and fire before he gets to you, especially when you consider that this scenario is most likely happening at night, while you were asleep and the perpetrator has the drop on you?

It's part of a solution, not the be all and end all.

Walker · Post by **Walker** » Tue Dec 13, 2005 4:27 pm

here we go guys, this student built a platform for an airsoft version of a P-90 for $50, just put a real gun on it and away ya go!!!, See if you could modify a Mag to accept a bigger ammo load, I bet it could do 500 rounds before cleaning...
http://www.engadget.com/entry/1234000770060024/

Fifteen of these on the perimeter and your set! Just be sure to hide them well…. OOOooo… use normal rounds for ones with a longer scanning range, but subsonic, silenced, and flash suppressed when you get closer to the building… so you get woken up by the first few, and if the bad guy disables some and rushes the building the silenced ones may take his crew by surprise, just enough time to get to the center of the villa to your Chinook to drop a fuel air bomb as you escape…

.... Just make sure you shut it off before the UPS guy drops by with that Viagra you ordered..... DAMMIT!!!!! NOT AGAIN!!!!!!!! Hunny could you get the pressure washer out please......

I hope that got rid of any remaining dignity the thread may have had…

just clearing the trees · Tue Dec 13, 2005 5:02 pm

altiplano · Post by **altiplano** » Tue Dec 13, 2005 5:24 pm

marktheone · Post by **marktheone** » Tue Dec 13, 2005 5:35 pm

just clearing the trees wrote:One question. How do you get the gun unlocked and/or out of it's locked cabinet, get out the ammo, load the weapon, acquire your target and fire before he gets to you, especially when you consider that this scenario is most likely happening at night, while you were asleep and the perpetrator has the drop on you?

Lock? Were they serious about that? Nah.

altiplano · Post by **altiplano** » Tue Dec 13, 2005 5:37 pm

just clearing the trees · Thu Dec 15, 2005 12:40 am

So in reality, my Louisville Slugger is a better option than a gun.

hazatude · Post by **hazatude** » Thu Dec 15, 2005 3:52 am

Unless the asshole that punches in your door looking for crack funds has a Louisville Slugger or a gun.

Blue Side Down · Post by **Blue Side Down** » Thu Dec 15, 2005 10:08 am

Generally the sound of a pump gun's action cycling is unmistakable, and will usually cause an intruder to reconsider the situation. Such a method of deterrence is preferable, as little to no paperwork is involved afterwards.

I_Drive_Planes · Post by **I_Drive_Planes** » Thu Dec 15, 2005 9:58 pm

Guns really aren't suitable for the defense of the average home, they tend to be quite cumbersome (and you need a truck capable of towing it), and are better suited to engaging targets at far greater ranges than those encountered in a typical home defence scenario. If I did have to pick one though, I'd say that a 105mm howitzer would likely be the best choice, fairly common with a wide variety of ammunition for different applications.

If I were looking to defend my home I would be looking more toward a rifle, shotgun, or sidearm. A 12 gauge shotgun would be what I would go with, easy to use, imposing to look at, and far less restricted than a sidearm is.

Planes

Av100LL · Post by **Av100LL** » Fri Dec 16, 2005 1:38 am

I_Drive_Planes wrote:Guns really aren't suitable for the defense of the average home, they tend to be quite cumbersome (and you need a truck capable of towing it), and are better suited to engaging targets at far greater ranges than those encountered in a typical home defence scenario. If I did have to pick one though, I'd say that a 105mm howitzer would likely be the best choice, fairly common with a wide variety of ammunition for different applications.

If I were looking to defend my home I would be looking more toward a rifle, shotgun, or sidearm. A 12 gauge shotgun would be what I would go with, easy to use, imposing to look at, and far less restricted than a sidearm is.

Planes

smartass, your worse than my roomate who's in 61bty... you were a gunner wern't you

but i stick by my C6 and my Lee Enfield Jungle Carbine thank you much

Driving Rain · Post by **Driving Rain** » Fri Dec 16, 2005 6:21 am

The cops came to a fellow pilot and friends house a few years back to question him as a witness to a car accident. As they were talking to him one peered past him into the house and noticed a gun (rifle) on the coffee table in the living room. They took him down pretty hard. He walked from the charge of unsafe storage in court . ... His defence was simple .. he was using the gun or about to clean it as they knocked at the door. The judge dimissed all charges and his guns were returned.

I was stopped by the OPP on a routine 2am

roadside check on the Trans-Canada near Hemlo ON. The lone female officer wanted to search my half ton. I said you'll need a search warrant which stopped her for a few seconds, she was sure she had a dope smuggler on her hands now. I savoured my moment of amusement and then I told her to fill her boots.
She positioned me away from the vehicle and started to hunt around. Long story short, she found my LouisVille slugger. She held in her hands and asked me, "what's this was for?" I asked her, why didn't she recognize it? She said, "TELL ME WHAT YOU USE THIS FOR! " I said, "playing baseball." She said, " WHY IS IT IN YOUR TRUCK?"I said you never know when a baseball game will breakout"

"I can take this you know." I said, "sure you can and I'll stop in Sault Ste Marie and buy another one."
If I'd have told her it was for self defence of course I'd have been arrested, charged with carrying a consealed weopon and forbidden to ever own a gun for the rest of my life, but I could still play baseball.

Doc · Post by **Doc** » Fri Dec 16, 2005 8:43 am

Driving rain...good one. A single cop should never make a stand like that. If you WERE a dope dealer, she'd have been toast!
I got pulled over on my way to a PPC competition near Toronto. Right up-front I told the cop that I had three firearms in the trunk, and where I was going. He just mumbled for me to drive safe!

bumffs · Post by **bumffs** » Fri Dec 16, 2005 3:37 pm

Driving Rain · Post by **Driving Rain** » Fri Dec 16, 2005 8:49 pm

[quote="bumffs"]Pedantric mode on ,please do not use the term' Dope Dealer'[quote]

I said Dope Smuggler, is that ok

heavymetal · Post by **heavymetal** » Sun Dec 18, 2005 4:34 pm

I would tend to agree your best bet is a Louisvillefuckingslugger, but for you gun enthusiasts my personal favorite is any gauge shotgun loaded with Rock salt instead of lead. The rock salt won't do any fatal damage but it will definately take the fight out of them. Rock salt works equally as well on the neighbor's dog that keep shitting on your lawn as it does for home defence.

Doc · Post by **Doc** » Sun Dec 18, 2005 5:20 pm

Anybody stupid enough to shoot the neighbour's dog with rock salt, should have the same done to his naked ass! Unless of course, you jest! I know you wouldn't really do such a beastly thing? Right? What I used to do, in the winter at least, was to wait till the dog's shit froze, then chip back to the his yard with a sand wedge!

heavymetal · Post by **heavymetal** » Sun Dec 18, 2005 5:33 pm

There are a couple of things wrong with the internet, 1. Tone can not be read in text. 2. Some people apparently have no sense of humor. Sorry for anyone who thought I was serious about the dog thing.

Doc · Post by **Doc** » Sun Dec 18, 2005 5:37 pm

Okay....I hear ya. As long as you'd never actually carry out your threat on Fido.....but a very light load of something would have its funny side. No doubt....a full mag load of salt would be a little harsh?

Leerboy · Post by **Leerboy** » Sun Dec 18, 2005 8:44 pm

There is only one home defence weapon I would trust. The 110000 volt TASER CANNON!!!
http://www.lod.org/Projects/Other//index.htm

Walker · Post by **Walker** » Mon Dec 19, 2005 4:07 am

There we go guys!!!!! Like I said at the VERY begining, Automated turrets....

heavymetal · Post by **heavymetal** » Mon Dec 19, 2005 7:06 am

No need for you to worry Doc, or any other animal lovers out there. Man's best friend is the my only friend that is as portable as my life requires.
I think it would only be dependant on the size of the salt rocks. The less mass the pellet has the less the penetration will be. The quantity would only increase the shot pattern just like the difference between the size of the pattern using #8 to #4 shot. Smaller pellets would provide a greater surface area coverage. If you used a .410 you may only get a couple of pieces of salt would ensure the hilarious results you were looking for.