How long until layoffs due to Tariffs?

[Inverted2]

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Supporting dictators. Like the one that froze bank accounts of protesters or threatened the jobs and livelihoods of those who wouldn’t take an unproven and experimental vaccine?

Trump should just call the tariffs a carbon tax. Canadians have no issues with those it seems. (While our dictator constantly flies around the world in his wide body jet).

[SE7EN]

How long until we’re going to work every day using traditional navaids only because the U.S. government selectively shuts off GPS over Canadian airspace in an escalating trade war? Been a long time since I’ve done a DME Arc or the NDB A into anywhere.

How exactly would they do that? The signal only requires a receiver. If they used a jammer it could interfere with their northern states.

Repositioning some satellite orbits a couple of years back placed YHZ on the fringes of WAAS coverage. They can't cut off the service right at the border, but they can definitely significantly reduce accuracy and reliability in large chunks of Canada that are not close to the U.S.

Not to mention we could work something out with one of the 4 other GNSS systems like Galileo…

Oh yeah, that'll work just amazing, considering how quick and nimble the industry is when it comes to massive regulatory and technical changes like switching to a completely different GNSS system. /s

Just for reference, our company began updating the FMSs to the latest version, and now our RNP approaches are broken, updates have stopped, and tails that received the updates aren't allowed to fly RNPs anymore. This has been dragging on since December, and will continue for a few more months, no doubt. And that's with the established GNSS system for what should have been a relatively minor operational FMS update... I can just imagine how smoothly and quickly (not!) the switch to Galileo is going to happen!

This one?
https://kteqgeospace.com/gps-anomaly-research-2023/

Yes there would be growing pains like any other change. There are options though.

If Trump leverages the GPS systems we’ll have bigger issues to worry about.

[Justjohn]

fliter wrote: ↑Wed Mar 05, 2025 4:35 am
SE7EN wrote: ↑Wed Mar 05, 2025 3:07 am
Justjohn wrote: ↑Tue Mar 04, 2025 3:13 pm
How long until we’re going to work every day using traditional navaids only because the U.S. government selectively shuts off GPS over Canadian airspace in an escalating trade war? Been a long time since I’ve done a DME Arc or the NDB A into anywhere.
How exactly would they do that? The signal only requires a receiver. If they used a jammer it could interfere with their northern states.
Repositioning some satellite orbits a couple of years back placed YHZ on the fringes of WAAS coverage. They can't cut off the service right at the border, but they can definitely significantly reduce accuracy and reliability in large chunks of Canada that are not close to the U.S.
Justjohn wrote: ↑Tue Mar 04, 2025 3:13 pm
Not to mention we could work something out with one of the 4 other GNSS systems like Galileo…
Oh yeah, that'll work just amazing, considering how quick and nimble the industry is when it comes to massive regulatory and technical changes like switching to a completely different GNSS system. /s

Just for reference, our company began updating the FMSs to the latest version, and now our RNP approaches are broken, updates have stopped, and tails that received the updates aren't allowed to fly RNPs anymore. This has been dragging on since December, and will continue for a few more months, no doubt. And that's with the established GNSS system for what should have been a relatively minor operational FMS update... I can just imagine how smoothly and quickly (not!) the switch to Galileo is going to happen!

This one?
https://kteqgeospace.com/gps-anomaly-research-2023/

Yes there would be growing pains like any other change. There are options though.

If Trump leverages the GPS systems we’ll have bigger issues to worry about.



The U.S. has always had the ability to selectively turn off or jam the GPS signal over selective areas. That capability was baked into the system from the start.

Every major airport relies heavily on RNAV SIDS and STARS.

But never mind airspace. I’d imagine every 911 operator would sit up and take notice.

[goldeneagle]

If Trump leverages the GPS systems we’ll have bigger issues to worry about.

The American GPS system is not the only constellation of nav satellites up there, for exactly that reason. If the aviation industry has not embraced the use of more than one, that's just more short sightedness mixed with a dose of 'American exceptionalism'.

Take a peek at the GNSS receiver in your car or phone today. It's likely capable of using GPS, GLONASS, BeiDou, Gallileo and the Japanese QZSS systems or some combination of them if it's a relatively modern unit.

I take a peek at the stats on the inexpensive unit here used as a time source for the network, it's currently tracking 8 GPS birds, 7 BeiDou, and one from the QZSS system to form it's fix. If the GPS birds start giving erratic data, it's smart enough to realize that, then remove them from the solution for time and position, switching to use data from the other constellations.

If you are really worried about Trump messing with GPS for political reasons, then maybe you should invest in a relatively inexpensive receiver that uses more than one constellation and can interface to foreflight on the iPad. Not an 'approved' way to navigate, but, you wont be left scratching your head asking 'where are we?'.

[Dry Guy]

Well so far it's saved us $100m for Starlink internet for Native reserves. Maybe this trade war will help cut excess government spending.

[co-joe]

I wouldn't say we hold no cards. We have a pair of 2's.

We have virtually all of the resources, and all we need to do is put some petty provincial bullshit aside and develop them, and we can sell to everyone else in the world. If the US is still the most profitable customer, even with tariffs, then so be it, but if the EU and Asia are more profitable then that's were we need to go. Honestly this is a painful lesson in the short term, that could make us drastically more stable in the long run.

[cdnavater]

I wouldn't say we hold no cards. We have a pair of 2's.

We have virtually all of the resources, and all we need to do is put some petty provincial bullshit aside and develop them, and we can sell to everyone else in the world. If the US is still the most profitable customer, even with tariffs, then so be it, but if the EU and Asia are more profitable then that's were we need to go. Honestly this is a painful lesson in the short term, that could make us drastically more stable in the long run.

I don’t understand, in your mind we pay the tariffs!
More profitable to sell to the US is irrelevant, pass the tariffs through! I also realize that the increased cost of tariffs will eventually make its way back when we buy refined fuel from them, unless we can find a cheaper source but that being said, @#$! them and add 15% export tariffs to resources to offset his selfish 25% on everything except 10% on what we really need!

[Daniel Cooper]

Layoffs are happening. But at American.

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[newlygrounded]

Well so far it's saved us $100m for Starlink internet for Native reserves. Maybe this trade war will help cut excess government spending.

How will not having internet help anyone?

[cdnavater]

Well so far it's saved us $100m for Starlink internet for Native reserves. Maybe this trade war will help cut excess government spending.

How will not having internet help anyone?

The tax payer paying the bill!

[Inverted2]

Well so far it's saved us $100m for Starlink internet for Native reserves. Maybe this trade war will help cut excess government spending.

How will not having internet help anyone?

It’s not going to help them with their online job searches.

[rookiepilot]

I say hit the Red states where it hurts. Farmers.

Export taxes on electricity and ag products. Restrictions on minerals. Can’t put this ketchup back in the bottle.

[Donald]

Don't export any uranium for their nuclear power plants.

[Dry Guy]

Don't export any uranium for their nuclear power plants.

Uranium isn't rare. That does sound like a good excuse to annex us though for national security reasons.

[‘Bob’]

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Supporting dictators. Like the one that froze bank accounts of protesters or threatened the jobs and livelihoods of those who wouldn’t take an unproven and experimental vaccine?

Trump should just call the tariffs a carbon tax. Canadians have no issues with those it seems. (While our dictator constantly flies around the world in his wide body jet).

Not a single person was forced to take a vaccine and mandates were provincial or ironically in the USA.

Harper wouldn’t have waited two hours before tear gas and rubber bullets started flying.

Do not conflate dictatorship into a measured reaction after WEEKS of Ottawa residents being harassed by stupid people.

[‘Bob’]

I say hit the Red states where it hurts. Farmers.

Export taxes on electricity and ag products. Restrictions on minerals. Can’t put this ketchup back in the bottle.

Potash.

We are the Saudi Arabia of it.

$15 cartons of eggs are only the beginning.

[rookiepilot]

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Supporting dictators. Like the one that froze bank accounts of protesters or threatened the jobs and livelihoods of those who wouldn’t take an unproven and experimental vaccine?

Trump should just call the tariffs a carbon tax. Canadians have no issues with those it seems. (While our dictator constantly flies around the world in his wide body jet).

Not a single person was forced to take a vaccine and mandates were provincial or ironically in the USA.

Harper wouldn’t have waited two hours before tear gas and rubber bullets started flying.

Harper would never have had to do so, because he respected the electorate, communicated policy well and led thoughtfully and courted unity, not division.

Your lived experience may claim to be different, but don’t confuse that with actual facts.

[Bingo Fuel]

Some actual facts about Steven Harper:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebQawE65ATU

https://youtu.be/mIJrGGFWg4s?si=mQb1afGKHqH5TKHO&t=114

https://www.thestar.com/politics/federa ... 0b931.html
Archive Version:
https://web.archive.org/web/20250307142 ... 0b931.html

https://canadians.org/analysis/harper-s ... ment-fund/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_G20_ ... t_protests

https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/ann ... age-1.html

https://www.cbc.ca/news/health/second-o ... -1.4588913

https://thetyee.ca/Analysis/2024/04/05/ ... -Globally/

[8895]

Some actual facts about Steven Harper:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebQawE65ATU

https://youtu.be/mIJrGGFWg4s?si=mQb1afGKHqH5TKHO&t=114

https://www.thestar.com/politics/federa ... 0b931.html
Archive Version:
https://web.archive.org/web/20250307142 ... 0b931.html

https://canadians.org/analysis/harper-s ... ment-fund/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_G20_ ... t_protests

https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/ann ... age-1.html

https://www.cbc.ca/news/health/second-o ... -1.4588913

https://thetyee.ca/Analysis/2024/04/05/ ... -Globally/

I remember as a kid watching hockey night in Canada one night, the flames were in Ottawa. Naturally, Harper went to the game. The camera panned onto him and he was just in the stands with his family, with everyone else. Looked like you’d have the occasional person pass by asking for an autograph. That was harpers Canada.

Trudeau’s Canada? He needs 10 bodyguards just to cross the road… I could go on with a grocery list of other things, but that right there should be more then enough evidence of how fractured he’s made our country. In the same way if you’re an American who voted for trump, f*ck you if you voted for Trudeau. We could be thriving as a country right now considering our vast resources. Instead we’re stuck being americas hat.

[Inverted2]

Hopefully the tariffs are over once they annex us. They could do it without firing a shot. We basically don’t have a military to fight back. We have only a handful of ancient F-18’s, most of which aren’t airworthy or combat ready. No other nation I can think of would intervene. I say bring it on!

[rookiepilot]

Supporting dictators. Like the one that froze bank accounts of protesters or threatened the jobs and livelihoods of those who wouldn’t take an unproven and experimental vaccine?

Trump should just call the tariffs a carbon tax. Canadians have no issues with those it seems. (While our dictator constantly flies around the world in his wide body jet).

Not a single person was forced to take a vaccine and mandates were provincial or ironically in the USA.

Harper wouldn’t have waited two hours before tear gas and rubber bullets started flying.

Harper would never have had to do so, because he respected the electorate, communicated policy well and led thoughtfully and courted unity, not division.

Your lived experience may claim to be different, but don’t confuse that with actual facts.

Crickets when truth is posted. Defend your statement.

[rookiepilot]

Some actual facts about Steven Harper:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebQawE65ATU

https://youtu.be/mIJrGGFWg4s?si=mQb1afGKHqH5TKHO&t=114

https://www.thestar.com/politics/federa ... 0b931.html
Archive Version:
https://web.archive.org/web/20250307142 ... 0b931.html

https://canadians.org/analysis/harper-s ... ment-fund/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_G20_ ... t_protests

https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/ann ... age-1.html

https://www.cbc.ca/news/health/second-o ... -1.4588913

https://thetyee.ca/Analysis/2024/04/05/ ... -Globally/

I remember as a kid watching hockey night in Canada one night, the flames were in Ottawa. Naturally, Harper went to the game. The camera panned onto him and he was just in the stands with his family, with everyone else. Looked like you’d have the occasional person pass by asking for an autograph. That was harpers Canada.

Trudeau’s Canada? He needs 10 bodyguards just to cross the road… I could go on with a grocery list of other things, but that right there should be more then enough evidence of how fractured he’s made our country. In the same way if you’re an American who voted for trump, f*ck you if you voted for Trudeau. We could be thriving as a country right now considering our vast resources. Instead we’re stuck being americas hat.

We have a lot of traitors to Canada in this country who have supported the LPC.

[Dias]

Hudson Bay bankrupt
Canadian Tire "restructuring"

[Bingo Fuel]

We have a lot of traitors to Canada in this country who have supported the LPC.

What is a traitor? Give us your definition, provide sources. Be very clear about how that applies to LPC voters.

Then tell us how that definition does not apply to those who want Canada annexed by a foreign government.

[rookiepilot]

We have a lot of traitors to Canada in this country who have supported the LPC.

What is a traitor? Give us your definition, provide sources. Be very clear about how that applies to LPC voters.

Then tell us how that definition does not apply to those who want Canada annexed by a foreign government.

A traitor is one who places power and control over serving their country.

As far as Rolex man and the LPC, this definition applies in spades