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rookiepilot wrote: Sat Mar 08, 2025 5:10 pm
Bingo Fuel wrote: Sat Mar 08, 2025 5:06 pm
rookiepilot wrote: Fri Mar 07, 2025 5:37 pm We have a lot of traitors to Canada in this country who have supported the LPC.
What is a traitor? Give us your definition, provide sources. Be very clear about how that applies to LPC voters.

Then tell us how that definition does not apply to those who want Canada annexed by a foreign government.
A traitor is one who places power and control over serving their country.

As far as Rolex man and the LPC, this definition applies in spades
You claimed that the voters are traitors. How?

By your definition, every politician could be considered a traitor, depending on your political leanings.

Provide a source for your definition, and how that doesn't apply to those who seek wealth by becoming an American.
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rookiepilot wrote: Sat Mar 08, 2025 5:10 pm A traitor is one who places power and control over serving their country.

As far as Rolex man and the LPC, this definition applies in spades
Definitions have commonly agreed-upon definitions, and yours doesn't match any definition of "treason".

This is directly from the Criminal Code:
High treason

46 (1) Every one commits high treason who, in Canada,

(a) kills or attempts to kill Her Majesty, or does her any bodily harm tending to death or destruction, maims or wounds her, or imprisons or restrains her;

(b) levies war against Canada or does any act preparatory thereto; or

(c) assists an enemy at war with Canada, or any armed forces against whom Canadian Forces are engaged in hostilities, whether or not a state of war exists between Canada and the country whose forces they are.

Marginal note:Treason

(2) Every one commits treason who, in Canada,

(a) uses force or violence for the purpose of overthrowing the government of Canada or a province;

(b) without lawful authority, communicates or makes available to an agent of a state other than Canada, military or scientific information or any sketch, plan, model, article, note or document of a military or scientific character that he knows or ought to know may be used by that state for a purpose prejudicial to the safety or defence of Canada;

(c) conspires with any person to commit high treason or to do anything mentioned in paragraph (a);

(d) forms an intention to do anything that is high treason or that is mentioned in paragraph (a) and manifests that intention by an overt act; or

(e) conspires with any person to do anything mentioned in paragraph (b) or forms an intention to do anything mentioned in paragraph (b) and manifests that intention by an overt act.
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8895 wrote: Fri Mar 07, 2025 10:01 am Trudeau’s Canada? He needs 10 bodyguards just to cross the road… I could go on with a grocery list of other things, but that right there should be more then enough evidence of how fractured he’s made our country. In the same way if you’re an American who voted for trump, f*ck you if you voted for Trudeau. We could be thriving as a country right now considering our vast resources. Instead we’re stuck being americas hat.
Because right wingers keep trying to assassinate him: https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/corey- ... -1.7264186

For all the demonization of the left that conservatives throw around, no anarchists or communists actually launched armed attacks on Harper.
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Diadem wrote: Sat Mar 08, 2025 8:12 pm
8895 wrote: Fri Mar 07, 2025 10:01 am Trudeau’s Canada? He needs 10 bodyguards just to cross the road… I could go on with a grocery list of other things, but that right there should be more then enough evidence of how fractured he’s made our country. In the same way if you’re an American who voted for trump, f*ck you if you voted for Trudeau. We could be thriving as a country right now considering our vast resources. Instead we’re stuck being americas hat.
Because right wingers keep trying to assassinate him: https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/corey- ... -1.7264186

For all the demonization of the left that conservatives throw around, no anarchists or communists actually launched armed attacks on Harper.
True, I forgot that Harper caused such a rift in this country that people felt compelled to essentially shut down ottawa…. Oh wait. Weird how “f*ck Harper” was never as big of a thing, if even a thing at all, compared to “f*ck Trudeau”.

I consider myself more Canadian conservative because every other option is beyond economically irresponsible. It blows my mind that people are still supporting a party that managed to put so much upward pressure on housing, downward pressure on wages, and has our infrastructure more strained then it’s ever been.

This government refused to support a project that would’ve not only extracted oil in the sands more efficiently, but also in a cleaner manner. Why? Because they “can’t support oil and gas”, even if it means not helping to reduce the emissions that this project would’ve allowed LMFAO

My favourite liberal quote ever was in 2022, listening to Christina freeland saying “YA KNOW MR SPEAKER, the average Canadian’s net worth has increased by 40% (can’t remember exact number) since the pandemic. The liberals have Canadian’s back and are helping them recover post Covid”…. Literally during the height of our ongoing housing crisis LMFAO. My god if you can’t put two and two together on that one and how ridiculously low of an IQ she’s pandering to with that one, just do everyone a favour and don’t vote.

Funny how the liberals never talk about GDP/capita…. I wonder why :rolleyes:

We have vast resources that no one touches because of all the red tape in the way, northern Ontario should be booming, instead it’s basically dead.

Could’ve had a pipeline to sell our oil to other markets, libs screwed that one up too.

If useless identity politics and virtue signalling are so important to you that you feel the need to vote liberal, especially after the last decade, you should grow some brain cells to the point where it takes more than two hands to count them.
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8895 wrote: Sat Mar 08, 2025 9:10 pm Could’ve had a pipeline to sell our oil to other markets, libs screwed that one up too.
Yes, terrible, when it was on the verge of being cancelled, they bought it, finished it, and it now ships oil off the west coast.

Listening to you folks, apparently the pipeline that was cancelled by the American administration going south, is somehow the fault of a Liberal government in Ottawa, and the completion of a pipeline to the west, well, you just want to pretend that didn't happen, even tho Alberta oil is going on ships every day at it's terminus.

But I get it, the American government closed the border for unvaccinated folks headed south during the pandemic, and somehow you all blame the folks in Ottawa for that too.

It's what happens when the country degrades to sound bite dog whistle politics, which apparently the best way to appeal to the right leaning crowd, it worked wonders in the US, and seems to work well in Canada too, it's a way of gathering up votes from that segment of the population that wouldn't know a fact if they tripped on it.
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Dronepiper wrote: Tue Mar 04, 2025 9:23 am What is everyone's thoughts? My guess is things will slow down by Christmas.
And now for something completely different, an on topic post reply :roll: . I was talking to a pilot I know who works for a major Canadian Airline. He said loads to US destinations are consistently down 30 % over expected for this time of year. I don't think it will be very long before everyone pauses hiring. When that happens layoffs won't be far behind when the bean counters panic and over correct.
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Big Pistons Forever wrote: Sun Mar 09, 2025 3:46 pm
Dronepiper wrote: Tue Mar 04, 2025 9:23 am What is everyone's thoughts? My guess is things will slow down by Christmas.
And now for something completely different, an on topic post reply :roll: . I was talking to a pilot I know who works for a major Canadian Airline. He said loads to US destinations are consistently down 30 % over expected for this time of year. I don't think it will be very long before everyone pauses hiring. When that happens layoffs won't be far behind when the bean counters panic and over correct.
How are the loads for Canadian destinations? Are people not travelling anymore or just not travelling to the states?
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There are 500,000 short term visas expiring in 2025. If immigration minister Marc is to be believed they are all going home. That's 4 high density 777 flights every single day for a year to India or wherever. Plus the normal passenger traffic. This should be the greatest year in Canadian aviation history. Right guys?
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itsgrosswhatinet wrote: Sun Mar 09, 2025 8:43 pm There are 500,000 short term visas expiring in 2025. If immigration minister Marc is to be believed they are all going home. That's 4 high density 777 flights every single day for a year to India or wherever. Plus the normal passenger traffic. This should be the greatest year in Canadian aviation history. Right guys?
You may need to redo your elementary school math class.

*Every* year 500k student visas are issued (reducing 10% this year). There are about 50 million passengers passing through Canada's airports, so those 500k that arrive *every* year account for 1% of all air passengers.
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goldeneagle wrote: Sun Mar 09, 2025 11:42 am
It's what happens when the country degrades to sound bite dog whistle politics, which apparently the best way to appeal to the right leaning crowd, it worked wonders in the US, and seems to work well in Canada too, it's a way of gathering up votes from that segment of the population that wouldn't know a fact if they tripped on it.
Like this dog whistle enacted by the LPC?

https://nationalpost.com/opinion/federa ... -activists

FIRST READING: Federal report deems it 'racist' to criticize Canadian anti-Israel activists
Guide also defines both 'sharia' and 'jihad' as benign terms that are misrepresented by Westerners

The term is broad enough that merely acknowledging the existence of Israel could fall under its rubric. The definition describes the Jewish state as “occupied and historic Palestine,” and its creation as “the Nakba” (catastrophe). “Denying the Nakba” is specifically cited as one of the markers of “anti-Palestinian racism.”
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I see this as a cultural war more than just a borders war. The liberal globalists have been attacking Western culture for decades for the purpose of supplying cheap labor for businesses. Trudeau called Canada the first post-national state. It's revolting they use the guise of racism to quell any dissent. If Trump hadn't stepped up to fight back I don't think Western culture would have survived.
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rookiepilot wrote: Tue Mar 11, 2025 2:17 pm
goldeneagle wrote: Sun Mar 09, 2025 11:42 am
It's what happens when the country degrades to sound bite dog whistle politics, which apparently the best way to appeal to the right leaning crowd, it worked wonders in the US, and seems to work well in Canada too, it's a way of gathering up votes from that segment of the population that wouldn't know a fact if they tripped on it.
Like this dog whistle enacted by the LPC?

https://nationalpost.com/opinion/federa ... -activists

FIRST READING: Federal report deems it 'racist' to criticize Canadian anti-Israel activists
Guide also defines both 'sharia' and 'jihad' as benign terms that are misrepresented by Westerners

The term is broad enough that merely acknowledging the existence of Israel could fall under its rubric. The definition describes the Jewish state as “occupied and historic Palestine,” and its creation as “the Nakba” (catastrophe). “Denying the Nakba” is specifically cited as one of the markers of “anti-Palestinian racism.”
The racism terminology is a bit too strong, but at it's core the idea is just a rewording of the root of the Israel/Palestine problem, and I'll try to describe this as objectively as possible, the dispute about the land and if the Jewish people or the Palestine people had/have a legal claim to the land.

As an analogy with the Ukraine war, one could have similar discussions about the status of Crimea or the Donbass. One side will likely call the other side a lot of nasty names depending on whether they consider those areas Ukranian or Russian territory.

The difference is that the Western world, based on observations in media, seems to be almost unanimously sided with Ukraine in that conflict, whereas in the Palestine / Israel conflict, the public opinion is much more divided. The US politics support Israel more, the public opinion is slightly more divided. Canada and Europe seem to be a bit more on the fence at the moment. And as it often goes in a 2 party system, if party A says White, the other will try to push Black, completely ignoring the Grey majority. It's in that context articles such as the above are written.
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itsgrosswhatinet wrote: Tue Mar 11, 2025 2:37 pm I see this as a cultural war more than just a borders war. The liberal globalists have been attacking Western culture for decades for the purpose of supplying cheap labor for businesses. Trudeau called Canada the first post-national state. It's revolting they use the guise of racism to quell any dissent. If Trump hadn't stepped up to fight back I don't think Western culture would have survived.
No, Carney , Biden, Soros, Merkel, etc just really care about improving the lives of migrants and illegal aliens because they are nice guys.
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What's your thoughts on Doug Ford and his:

'I am the toughest fighter ever, we're going to show Trump not to mess with us, I'm going to put a 25% surcharge on electricity until he removes all tariffs'!!

Trump: take that off or I'll make it 50%

Ford: Oh yes sir, sorry Mr Trump sir, I'll take it off straight away.

In my opinion, Ford if you're going to talk tough be tough, otherwise don't open your mouth.
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Launchpad1 wrote: Wed Mar 12, 2025 10:47 am What's your thoughts on Doug Ford and his:

'I am the toughest fighter ever, we're going to show Trump not to mess with us, I'm going to put a 25% surcharge on electricity until he removes all tariffs'!!

Trump: take that off or I'll make it 50%

Ford: Oh yes sir, sorry Mr Trump sir, I'll take it off straight away.

In my opinion, Ford if you're going to talk tough be tough, otherwise don't open your mouth.
The reason Ford paused the tariffs is because Trump invited him to the white house today to discuss it with his team. So it seems reasonable to remove the threat while discussions are underway, and it seems unlikely he would have succeeded in getting a meeting without those threats.

Looking at the news today, I can't see any mentions of this meeting, so who knows what's happening now. But I think most people respect Doug Ford for standing up to Trump.

The whole thing is just an elaborate circus act prelude to renegotiating NAFTA 3.0.
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Launchpad1 wrote: Wed Mar 12, 2025 10:47 am What's your thoughts on Doug Ford and his:

'I am the toughest fighter ever, we're going to show Trump not to mess with us, I'm going to put a 25% surcharge on electricity until he removes all tariffs'!!

Trump: take that off or I'll make it 50%

Ford: Oh yes sir, sorry Mr Trump sir, I'll take it off straight away.

In my opinion, Ford if you're going to talk tough be tough, otherwise don't open your mouth.
His surcharge had the intended effect.

https://nationalpost.com/news/politics/ ... iff-canada

Unlike the clown south of the border who keeps waffling and then is assuaged by the border plan we had way back in December as a “win” and then waffles some more while he destroys the US economy.
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Doug will definitely have a place in Trump's Canadian governance.
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Why is this (possibly foreign election interference) legal? Anonymous group. Secret funding. I think it could be Russia or China. Maybe its America! Yet no one says a thing — cause its attacking conservatives.

If you say there isn’t an election called so its not interference — nope — wrong.

https://www.westernstandard.news/news/p ... aign/61585

Slick TV ads interrupted my raptors game….
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CNBC analyst. Loads of advanced degrees. Stupidest thing I have ever heard.

https://x.com/SullyCNBC/status/1900182015288176703
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"Russia and China" election interference hoaxes are smoke and mirrors ops to make people not look at a certain group of people who are known to consistently interfere in foreign governments with impunity.
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goldeneagle wrote: Sun Mar 09, 2025 11:42 am
8895 wrote: Sat Mar 08, 2025 9:10 pm Could’ve had a pipeline to sell our oil to other markets, libs screwed that one up too.
Yes, terrible, when it was on the verge of being cancelled, they bought it, finished it, and it now ships oil off the west coast.

Listening to you folks, apparently the pipeline that was cancelled by the American administration going south, is somehow the fault of a Liberal government in Ottawa, and the completion of a pipeline to the west, well, you just want to pretend that didn't happen, even tho Alberta oil is going on ships every day at it's terminus.

But I get it, the American government closed the border for unvaccinated folks headed south during the pandemic, and somehow you all blame the folks in Ottawa for that too.

It's what happens when the country degrades to sound bite dog whistle politics, which apparently the best way to appeal to the right leaning crowd, it worked wonders in the US, and seems to work well in Canada too, it's a way of gathering up votes from that segment of the population that wouldn't know a fact if they tripped on it.
So to be clear, you’re saying it’s not the fault of a liberal government for putting up red tape, warding off foreign investment into a Canadian infrastructure project, and instead using taxpayer money to complete it?

Also hilarious that your only counter argument is towards one line of my post. I’d love to hear your response to the rest.
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8895 wrote: Sat Mar 08, 2025 9:10 pm
True, I forgot that Harper caused such a rift in this country that people felt compelled to essentially shut down ottawa….
He didn’t give anyone a chance to shut anything down.

Can you imagine if Trudeau employed 20,000 police and military against the truckers shooting tear gas and rubber bullets after mere hours of assembling in Ottawa?
Oh wait. Weird how “f*ck Harper” was never as big of a thing, if even a thing at all, compared to “f*ck Trudeau”.
That’s because it was illegal. Typical dictatorial censorship. You don’t find too many F*ck Putin signs for the same reason. It’s not because he’s a great guy.

Plus, thousands of stop signs were mildly vandalized in Canada to say Stop Harper.. but maybe it’s your forgetfulness or maybe the classier language doesn’t have an effect on you?
I consider myself more Canadian conservative because every other option is beyond economically irresponsible. It blows my mind that people are still supporting a party that managed to put so much upward pressure on housing, downward pressure on wages, and has our infrastructure more strained then it’s ever been.
If Harper and his cronies had their way we’d all have been replaced with a TFW. He was a sellout to our country and the only positive would be Trump wouldnt be coming for us because he’d already have everything.

Harper also didn’t complete any pipelines to tidewater in spite of one of the longest oil booms in history. What’s his excuse. Four dimensional chess of how Trudeau foiled those plans before he was even PM?
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You voted for this Bob. In 2015, Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, while defining Canadian values, suggested his country could be considered the world's first post-national state.
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