25% Tariff on all non US made Autos.

[Jean-Pierre]

Hahaha. One of the positions of the PPC is eliminating official multi-culturalism.

Good. That's what I want.

[altiplano]

I think an Allende (Chilean socialist) slogan was a glass of milk a day for every child... He nationalised the economy, investment fled, unemployment soared, people were hardup... it was a depression.

That opened the door for a coup and nearly 20 years of a military junta...

Uh… yeah… about that.

. On 11 September 1973, the military moved to oust Allende in a coup d'état supported by the CIA, which initially denied the allegations.[13][14] In 2000, the CIA admitted its role in the 1970 kidnapping of General René Schneider who had refused to use the army to stop Allende's inauguration.[15][16] Declassified documents released in 2023 showed that US president Richard Nixon, his national security advisor Henry Kissinger, and the United States government, which had branded Allende as a dangerous communist,[8] were aware of the military's plans to overthrow Allende's democratically elected government in the days before the coup d'état.[17] As troops surrounded La Moneda Palace, Allende gave his last speech vowing not to resign.[18] Later that day, Allende died by suicide in his office;[19][20][21] the exact circumstances of his death are still disputed.

How many Latin Americans does the CIA have to kill before you realize communism doesn’t work?

It honestly wouldn't surprise me if it came to that around here... I don't think people know how bad we have it.

You really think that we have it so bad that the military is going to overthrow a democratically elected government for providing basic social services?

The two situations are completely incomparable.

Now Liberals are talking about nationalising home building and real estate development - that makes up a quarter of our GDP which is fucked up in itself, but what's next? I read a proposal for homeowners to give reparations to non-home owners in a generational equity transfer. WTF. I'm sure we'll see capital gains on primary residences come too. That's all just one sector... the real dive to oblivion comes next.

For those who don’t own homes, it won’t matter. People vote for their own interests. We all should.

The problem is why those who don’t own homes don’t own them in the first place.. and that’s 20 years of fiscal irresponsibility by successive governments on both sides of the political spectrum regarding housing.

Why build houses when you can just hoard and scalp them? 1970s house, zero updates, suited out and rented for at least $1000 a bedroom—more in places like Surrey and Brampton because a closet is now a bedroom.

It’s Canadian Disease.. the stagnation of investment and innovation in favour of easy money in real estate.

So unless the private sector gets its shit together and starts building, public comes in.. and I hope they tax the living daylights out of slumlords and cause rents to fall precipitously.

Homeowners have to lose. All of that artificial wealth is the direct cause of most of the problems Canada faces today. It will be a blip on my net worth that won’t matter 20 years from now, so I’d vote for it in an instant.

And reparations? Already in the works. That’s what generational wealth is and I’m working to transfer as much as I can to my kids just so they can have a chance at the opportunities I had. If they each get a cheque as a result of hoarded wealth… so much the better.

Capital gains on primary residence? Who cares unless you’re a house flipper—then you’re part of the problem.

You miss the point as usual...

Socialism in Chile wasn't working in the 70s. Allende took over everything. All the money left. All the investment stopped. Trucks didn't move. People were starving. Everything stopped functioning when the government took it over. That's what provoked the coup in the first place. Sure, Kissinger backed Pinochet and Pinochet was brutal, but it was Allende and socialism that created the conditions and the unrest for the failure of Chile in that moment.

More government, nationalizing industries, increased control is not the solution and history shows us. The government needs to get out of the way. That's why the private sector isn't building at sufficient rates in Canada - it's too expensive and onerous to get approvals and turn a nickel. Refineries, mines, pipelines, roads, houses, infrastructure, developments, entire industries, money, jobs, it all leaves Canada because it's a decades long process to do anything and approvals are unlikely to begin with.

And so in 10 years GDP/capita growth is the lowest in the OECD at 0.5%. And that's not 0.5%/year. That's 0.5% growth in 10 years. Compare that to the US at 18.2% and the OECD average at 13.6%.

On our present track the outlook for the next 30 is worse. Lowest performer of all advanced economies.



We are a skilled nation, rich in energy, rich in resources, with fertile land and much water. We are situated strategically with ports on 2 oceans and a highly strategic passage through a 3rd.

So why does Canada suck so bad? Why don't we realize our full or really any potential. It should be obvious to most just from looking at our own industry in this country, an industry full of government and political involvement with multiple quasi-governmental organizations. From the way the regulator itself operates to the air navigation service to the airport authorities to the way it is taxed - overburdening, underperforming, incompetent, choked out.

Over regulated, Under performing. That's Canada. That's all on the government not getting out of the way and stepping over 100 dollar bills to pick up nickels while shitting 50s.

[Inverted2]

PPC

Sounds like a good thing then that version of Canada died!

How is it a good thing? I liked the culture we used to have.

Hahaha. One of the positions of the PPC is eliminating official multi-culturalism.

How is that going back to “the culture we used to have” when the Royal Proclamation dates to 1763 and both recognized Quebec as a “distinct society” and indigenous peoples as “nations”?
[/quote]

I think people like Bob like to tell us that diversity is our strength.....

https://www.tps.ca/organizational-chart ... st-wanted/

https://www.boloprogram.org/

Thanks Bob. Some of us sent out a warning over a quarter century ago. Remember Just Desserts.
[/quote]

The BOLO list provides maximum diversity with a sprinkle of cultural enrichment.

[JustaCanadian]

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1BQghV8a8X/

What does Carney think about diversity and culture? Like father like son?

[CpnCrunch]

https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1BQghV8a8X/

What does Carney think about diversity and culture? Like father like son?

Perhaps if you bothered to spend 1 second googling, you might find out. But I guess that's too much effort!

[Daniel Cooper]

Whatever he says, the truth will be more cheap foreign labour for business.

[itsgrosswhatinet]

Well it seems the tariffs were all the a bluff to get other countries to negotiate new trade deals.

[digits_]

Well it seems the tariffs were all the a bluff to get other countries to negotiate new trade deals.

I lost track. What tariffs are now applicable to Canada? 10%? 25%? Something else?

[Victory]

No idea. He said he's pausing them for those that didn't retaliate. We retaliated 'bigly'.

[pelmet]

All we have to do is get rid of the dairy board(to the benefit of almost all canadians) and he can claim a wind while we all actually win. Especially is we do free trade within Canada and build a trans-Canada pipeline.

[digits_]

Canada exempt from baseline tariffs
In an email to CTV News Wednesday afternoon, the White House confirmed that Canada is exempt from the 10 per cent baseline reciprocal tariffs it’s imposing on dozens of other countries.

Several other U.S. tariffs remain in place, however, including 25 per cent on foreign-made automobiles, of which Canadian vehicles are exempt until U.S. administration “establish(es) a process” to tax exclusively the non-American vehicle components of Canada-U.S.-Mexico Agreement (CUSMA)-compliant products.

Levies on steel and aluminum — which took effect on March 12 — are also in place.

And 25 per cent tariffs on all Canadian imports and 10 per cent on Canadian energy, which are related to border security, also apply to all non-CUSMA-compliant goods.

Spencer Van Dyk, CTV News Ottawa News Bureau writer & producer. With files from CTV News Ottawa News Bureau supervising producer Stephanie Ha

Source: https://www.ctvnews.ca/world/trumps-tar ... as-to-125/

Leads me to believe there are no tariffs for all CUSMA compliant goods. Today, anyway. Who knows what will happen tomorrow.

[Jean-Pierre]

No idea. He said he's pausing them for those that didn't retaliate. We retaliated 'bigly'.

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[DanWEC]

At this point it's either- He has no actual idea what he's doing and is being "strongly advised" internally to back off, since the procedures are idiotic, or, he's whipsawing the market intentionally to make himself a lot of money. He's only in it for himself, and this would be an on-brand move. His investments should be scrutinized. Hard.

[itsgrosswhatinet]

China just said they're willing to negotiate so move them over. We're the only ones left in the Retaliated box. Why do I feel like we're playing right into Trump's hands on becoming the 51st state? Anyways, keep voting Liberal, I want it to happen. Elbows up!

[Daniel Cooper]

At this point it's either- He has no actual idea what he's doing and is being "strongly advised" internally to back off, since the procedures are idiotic, or, he's whipsawing the market intentionally to make himself a lot of money. He's only in it for himself, and this would be an on-brand move. His investments should be scrutinized. Hard.

71 countries including China are trying to negotiate new trade deals. I think he might have some idea what he's doing.

[CpnCrunch]

China just said they're willing to negotiate so move them over. We're the only ones left in the Retaliated box. Why do I feel like we're playing right into Trump's hands on becoming the 51st state? Anyways, keep voting Liberal, I want it to happen. Elbows up!

I think you may be underestimating Carney if you think he isn't going to get a good deal for us. I could be wrong, and I'll happily eat my words if I am.

Carney and Trump have agreed to negotiate a pact between Canada and the US after the April 28 election:

https://archive.ph/3jSYj

[itsgrosswhatinet]

China just said they're willing to negotiate so move them over. We're the only ones left in the Retaliated box. Why do I feel like we're playing right into Trump's hands on becoming the 51st state? Anyways, keep voting Liberal, I want it to happen. Elbows up!

I think you may be underestimating Carney if you think he isn't going to get a good deal for us. I could be wrong, and I'll happily eat my words if I am.

Carney and Trump have agreed to negotiate a pact between Canada and the US after the April 28 election:

https://archive.ph/3jSYj

That's the spirit!

[cdnavater]

China just said they're willing to negotiate so move them over. We're the only ones left in the Retaliated box. Why do I feel like we're playing right into Trump's hands on becoming the 51st state? Anyways, keep voting Liberal, I want it to happen. Elbows up!

I think you may be underestimating Carney if you think he isn't going to get a good deal for us. I could be wrong, and I'll happily eat my words if I am.

Carney and Trump have agreed to negotiate a pact between Canada and the US after the April 28 election:

https://archive.ph/3jSYj

I just cannot understand why anyone would believe Carney is not just simply going back to the Liberal policies that have caused so much damage!
The NDP is apparently being punished for propping them up but it seems the short term memory of voters is blocking out the bad stuff from Liberals, why is that!
If you listen to his speeches, there is plenty of clues as to the plan after the election, he is literally stealing anything and everything that seems to garner support for the Conservatives, however in the words there is always caveats.
Resources superpower, as long as it’s environmental and the indigenous agree, in other words it’s not happening any more or any faster than the past but superpower sounds great!

[CpnCrunch]

Resources superpower, as long as it’s environmental and the indigenous agree, in other words it’s not happening any more or any faster than the past but superpower sounds great!

Whereas the Conservatives will just push everything through with no care for the enviroment or indigenous people? I find it odd that some people just always vote the one party the pushes one aspect of policy (economic, human rights, environment) before everything else. Actually, the only party that does this consistently is the Green party, but in recent years the Conservatives have been guilty as well which is a shame. The Liberals are kind of in the middle, and their policies shift a bit.

What I would like to see is a Conservative party with a leader that doesn't seem like a twat, and who respects human rights. Is that too friggin much to ask for?

[Tbayer2021]

China just said they're willing to negotiate so move them over. We're the only ones left in the Retaliated box. Why do I feel like we're playing right into Trump's hands on becoming the 51st state? Anyways, keep voting Liberal, I want it to happen. Elbows up!

I think you may be underestimating Carney if you think he isn't going to get a good deal for us. I could be wrong, and I'll happily eat my words if I am.

Carney and Trump have agreed to negotiate a pact between Canada and the US after the April 28 election:

https://archive.ph/3jSYj

I just cannot understand why anyone would believe Carney is not just simply going back to the Liberal policies that have caused so much damage!
The NDP is apparently being punished for propping them up but it seems the short term memory of voters is blocking out the bad stuff from Liberals, why is that!
If you listen to his speeches, there is plenty of clues as to the plan after the election, he is literally stealing anything and everything that seems to garner support for the Conservatives, however in the words there is always caveats.
Resources superpower, as long as it’s environmental and the indigenous agree, in other words it’s not happening any more or any faster than the past but superpower sounds great!

I think it's not that people believe Carney will be much different than the previous administration. Its more that a large percentage of the population now sees PP as Canada's version of Trump.

[CpnCrunch]

I think it's not that people believe Carney will be much different than the previous administration. Its more that a large percentage of the population now sees PP as Canada's version of Trump.

I think it's a bit of both. Certainly Carney does have a lot more financial credibility than any of the previous Liberal executive (which really didn't seem much more financially literate than the NDP).

[cdnavater]

Resources superpower, as long as it’s environmental and the indigenous agree, in other words it’s not happening any more or any faster than the past but superpower sounds great!

Whereas the Conservatives will just push everything through with no care for the enviroment or indigenous people? I find it odd that some people just always vote the one party the pushes one aspect of policy (economic, human rights, environment) before everything else. Actually, the only party that does this consistently is the Green party, but in recent years the Conservatives have been guilty as well which is a shame. The Liberals are kind of in the middle, and their policies shift a bit.

What I would like to see is a Conservative party with a leader that doesn't seem like a twat, and who respects human rights. Is that too friggin much to ask for?

I gave one example, the most recent “policy shift”, I’m talking about all the harmful policies as a whole and no I don’t believe the Conservatives will just ignore but of the two, I believe the resource projects needed at this time are more likely with a Conservative government.
Liberals want to build houses so we can continue to import tax payers by the millions, to get to their 100 million by 2100 how’s that math, about 1 million per year with out factoring birth and death rates.
They will pivot until they get a majority mandate and go right back to their plan, mass immigration, big carbon taxes which ultimately will get passed on to the consumer, what did Carney call it, “shadow tax”, a “new liberal government” is no different than the old liberal government!

https://www.ipolitics.ca/2025/03/20/car ... s-council/

READ MORE: Liberals’ immigration pivot highlights shift in how Canadians view issue

Last week, Rachel Bendayan, Carney’s newly-appointed immigration minister, said the government would maintain the revised levels plan that the Trudeau administration introduced last fall.

“But I think as the world continues to change, we need to look at how we do things here in Canada,” said Bendayan. “Not only how we government, [but] how we welcome people to Canada and how we grow as a country

[goldeneagle]

All we have to do is get rid of the dairy board(to the benefit of almost all canadians) and he can claim a wind while we all actually win. Especially is we do free trade within Canada and build a trans-Canada pipeline.

So folks believe anything they are told, he whips up Americans ranting on our system for dairy, goes on about some mythical 278% tariff they pay. but that's not reality.

Reality, thru the USMCA negotiations the American producers were granted a big chunk of quota, which is dairy product that can come into Canada tariff free. The tariff applies to that over quota, except, to date they have never shipped enough to fill even half the quota. It's a whole lot of hullabaloo over nothing, and they know it, but, they also know it's an easy way to get an uninformed population whipped up and frothing. It makes for a great sound bite when they say '278% tariff on American dairy', but leave out the part that says 'on stuff over quota, which we have never hit'.

If you really want to get going about tariffs and how unequally they are applied, look no farther than lumber, US has been charging duties and tariffs on Canadian lumber for decades, and when they made the agreement on softwood lumber, took less than a year for them to violate it by slapping even more duties and tariffs on lumber, basically ignoring the agreements already in place.

What this most recent round of events has shown us, and history bears out, no point negotiating any type of agreements with the American administration, they wont honor them, they are always one election cycle away from an administration tearing them up and tossing aside.

[cdnavater]

All we have to do is get rid of the dairy board(to the benefit of almost all canadians) and he can claim a wind while we all actually win. Especially is we do free trade within Canada and build a trans-Canada pipeline.

So folks believe anything they are told, he whips up Americans ranting on our system for dairy, goes on about some mythical 278% tariff they pay. but that's not reality.

Reality, thru the USMCA negotiations the American producers were granted a big chunk of quota, which is dairy product that can come into Canada tariff free. The tariff applies to that over quota, except, to date they have never shipped enough to fill even half the quota. It's a whole lot of hullabaloo over nothing, and they know it, but, they also know it's an easy way to get an uninformed population whipped up and frothing. It makes for a great sound bite when they say '278% tariff on American dairy', but leave out the part that says 'on stuff over quota, which we have never hit'.

If you really want to get going about tariffs and how unequally they are applied, look no farther than lumber, US has been charging duties and tariffs on Canadian lumber for decades, and when they made the agreement on softwood lumber, took less than a year for them to violate it by slapping even more duties and tariffs on lumber, basically ignoring the agreements already in place.

What this most recent round of events has shown us, and history bears out, no point negotiating any type of agreements with the American administration, they wont honor them, they are always one election cycle away from an administration tearing them up and tossing aside.

Facts don’t matter for Trump or his supporters, at all!
So, if Trump says no more dairy tariffs, huge win! Then that’s what the people will see and hear when he walks back the tariffs!

[altiplano]

The flip side of that argument, if Americans aren't even filling their quota allotment, why are we production restricting our own producers and running up prices for consumers.