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Does anyone know someone who has returned to WestJet after leaving and working at a different Canadian airline?
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Launchpad1 wrote: Wed May 21, 2025 2:19 pm Does anyone know someone who has returned to WestJet after leaving and working at a different Canadian airline?
If you're considering going but are afraid of making the wrong choice, know that unless you want to live in Calgary, your best long term and short term solution is leaving now. It's going to be years before Onex divests any further and in the meantime they will continue to suck whatever life is left in the company.

WestJet has shown that any pilot who leaves is a villain and will not be rehired. I have heard a story about were several Encore pilots who left and attempted to come back at the invitation of management in Encore, but their offer was rescinded by higher management.
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flieslikeachicken wrote: Wed May 21, 2025 7:18 pm
Launchpad1 wrote: Wed May 21, 2025 2:19 pm Does anyone know someone who has returned to WestJet after leaving and working at a different Canadian airline?
If you're considering going but are afraid of making the wrong choice, know that unless you want to live in Calgary, your best long term and short term solution is leaving now. It's going to be years before Onex divests any further and in the meantime they will continue to suck whatever life is left in the company.

WestJet has shown that any pilot who leaves is a villain and will not be rehired. I have heard a story about were several Encore pilots who left and attempted to come back at the invitation of management in Encore, but their offer was rescinded by higher management.
You sound a bit butt hurt.
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mantogasrsrwy wrote: Wed May 21, 2025 7:27 pm You sound a bit butt hurt.
A little bit. Don't get me wrong, I am happy with my decisions and where I am in life, but I do harbour some disappointment toward WestJet.
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flieslikeachicken wrote: Wed May 21, 2025 7:18 pm
Launchpad1 wrote: Wed May 21, 2025 2:19 pm Does anyone know someone who has returned to WestJet after leaving and working at a different Canadian airline?
If you're considering going but are afraid of making the wrong choice, know that unless you want to live in Calgary, your best long term and short term solution is leaving now. It's going to be years before Onex divests any further and in the meantime they will continue to suck whatever life is left in the company.

WestJet has shown that any pilot who leaves is a villain and will not be rehired. I have heard a story about were several Encore pilots who left and attempted to come back at the invitation of management in Encore, but their offer was rescinded by higher management.
You think you deserved another job at a company you quit from? It's literally the same thing as breaking up with your partner because you found someone better than them, and then realizing later on that it wasn't what you thought it'd be and come crawling back asking for forgiveness and trying to convince them that you won't leave again.

Sorry... But if you leave a company, you shouldn't expect to ever return.
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That makes absolutely zero sense.

If your situation and the company's conditions aren't compatible at the moment for any reason, such as life changes, etc, sometimes you have to leave.
Life then changes, as it does, and if you're a good fit again there is no logical reason not to be rehired other than reasons fabricated by people's egos. This isn't a fricken marriage.

Eg: Company closes base, you can't move because of family, or any other nornal, justifiable reason, so you have to quit.
Company opens base back up a few years later. It would only be a truly terrible business to deny you a position simply because you had to resign before.
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Blackdog0301 wrote: Thu May 22, 2025 4:11 am You think you deserved another job at a company you quit from? It's literally the same thing as breaking up with your partner because you found someone better than them, and then realizing later on that it wasn't what you thought it'd be and come crawling back asking for forgiveness and trying to convince them that you won't leave again.

Sorry... But if you leave a company, you shouldn't expect to ever return.
You are confusing me with another commenter. I stated that I left and that WestJet considers anyone who leaves as dead to them.
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Blackdog0301 wrote: Thu May 22, 2025 4:11 am You think you deserved another job at a company you quit from? It's literally the same thing as breaking up with your partner because you found someone better than them, and then realizing later on that it wasn't what you thought it'd be and come crawling back asking for forgiveness and trying to convince them that you won't leave again.

Sorry... But if you leave a company, you shouldn't expect to ever return.
That's a ridiculous analogy. This is business. It's purely transactional.
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Launchpad1 wrote: Wed May 21, 2025 2:19 pm Does anyone know someone who has returned to WestJet after leaving and working at a different Canadian airline?
I know of a few at Encore who left and then came back to Encore. Not sure about WestJet.
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I know of one at WJ, it was years ago they left and came back.
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Thanks all for the responses.
If you're considering going but are afraid of making the wrong choice, know that unless you want to live in Calgary, your best long term and short term solution is leaving now. It's going to be years before Onex divests any further and in the meantime they will continue to suck whatever life is left in the company.
I already left a couple of years ago but was just wondering if the door might be open if I ever decided to return.
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Launchpad1 wrote: Sat May 24, 2025 12:28 pm Thanks all for the responses.
If you're considering going but are afraid of making the wrong choice, know that unless you want to live in Calgary, your best long term and short term solution is leaving now. It's going to be years before Onex divests any further and in the meantime they will continue to suck whatever life is left in the company.
I already left a couple of years ago but was just wondering if the door might be open if I ever decided to return.
Most people are going to say no chance, but most people don't have a say in the matter.

Email the chief pilot and plead your case.
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Blackdog0301 wrote: Thu May 22, 2025 4:11 am
You think you deserved another job at a company you quit from? It's literally the same thing as breaking up with your partner because you found someone better than them, and then realizing later on that it wasn't what you thought it'd be and come crawling back asking for forgiveness and trying to convince them that you won't leave again.

Sorry... But if you leave a company, you shouldn't expect to ever return.
I'm sure there are companies that act that way, but I've witnessed on multiple occasions where experienced pilots came back to a company they previously left, often even with extra perks (pay raise, better position). It all depends on how you leave the company and how many other applicants there are. But even then...
I remember during my notice period at one company, a new pilot was shown around. Turns out he was previously let go/fired/asked to leave from that same company. Things change. Companies change, management changes, pilots change.

I know you're supposed to say during interviews that it's your life long dream to work your whole life at said company, but chief pilots know that's not the case. It makes sense that you leave a king air or metro job to fly shiny jets at some point. And they often appreciate that you realize and admit that the shiny jet might not be that perfect job you envisioned it to be, and the lifestyle at the small operation in small town wasn't that bad after all.

Perhaps Westjet is an exception to that rule, perhaps not. But it's definitely not a general rule.
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digits_ wrote: Mon May 26, 2025 9:27 am
Blackdog0301 wrote: Thu May 22, 2025 4:11 am
You think you deserved another job at a company you quit from? It's literally the same thing as breaking up with your partner because you found someone better than them, and then realizing later on that it wasn't what you thought it'd be and come crawling back asking for forgiveness and trying to convince them that you won't leave again.

Sorry... But if you leave a company, you shouldn't expect to ever return.
I'm sure there are companies that act that way, but I've witnessed on multiple occasions where experienced pilots came back to a company they previously left, often even with extra perks (pay raise, better position). It all depends on how you leave the company and how many other applicants there are. But even then...
I remember during my notice period at one company, a new pilot was shown around. Turns out he was previously let go/fired/asked to leave from that same company. Things change. Companies change, management changes, pilots change.

I know you're supposed to say during interviews that it's your life long dream to work your whole life at said company, but chief pilots know that's not the case. It makes sense that you leave a king air or metro job to fly shiny jets at some point. And they often appreciate that you realize and admit that the shiny jet might not be that perfect job you envisioned it to be, and the lifestyle at the small operation in small town wasn't that bad after all.

Perhaps Westjet is an exception to that rule, perhaps not. But it's definitely not a general rule.
Hmm, seems weird to agree with you but I agree, how and why you left is important.
Even if you went to AC and decided it wasn’t for you, to a CP he/she has to be thinking you won’t do that again but I gotta say that would be a hard pill to swallow. Giving up your spot to come back BOL would be difficult, it would have to be very bad to want to do that.
It’s why I didn’t apply to Porter, could’ve made more money and climbed the list, caveat if they would have hired me, however I have no desire to check the grass on the other side of any fence besides having to give up the rare DB but people have their reasons for checking I suppose.
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Wasn't there a guy that went to AC and Emirates and then back to WJ.
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cdnavater wrote: Mon May 26, 2025 5:42 pm

It’s why I didn’t apply to Porter, could’ve made more money and climbed the list, caveat if they would have hired me, however I have no desire to check the grass on the other side of any fence besides having to give up the rare DB but people have their reasons for checking I suppose.
I'm sure Duke would have given you a glowing internal reference
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Jeff B wrote: Wed Jun 04, 2025 10:39 am I have 2 friends who used pilotmello's interview prep and got hired at Westjet and Encore. I think it's worth the shot to prepare well for this big opportunity if interviews are not your thing.

Jeff B.
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braaap Braap wrote: Sun Jun 01, 2025 9:30 pm
cdnavater wrote: Mon May 26, 2025 5:42 pm

It’s why I didn’t apply to Porter, could’ve made more money and climbed the list, caveat if they would have hired me, however I have no desire to check the grass on the other side of any fence besides having to give up the rare DB but people have their reasons for checking I suppose.
I'm sure Duke would have given you a glowing internal reference
:lol: :partyman:

For sure I would have!

Don’t you know…. Cdnavater and I are best buds. Only online frenemies
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Launchpad1 wrote: Wed May 21, 2025 2:19 pm Does anyone know someone who has returned to WestJet after leaving and working at a different Canadian airline?
Me. Went to AC came back to WJ
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PittBoss wrote: Fri Jun 13, 2025 10:27 pm
Launchpad1 wrote: Wed May 21, 2025 2:19 pm Does anyone know someone who has returned to WestJet after leaving and working at a different Canadian airline?
Me. Went to AC came back to WJ
Aren’t you the guy who didn’t actually quit WJ, went to AC, didn’t like the type assigned in PIT and quit AC without actually “leaving” WJ?
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PittBoss wrote: Thu Nov 14, 2024 1:30 am So I did this stupid mistake and don't know if I will get in trouble.

I accepted AC offer and went to GS without leaving my old company. And as I didn't get the WB I resigned and continued with my old company.

Will there be any repercussions? :roll: :roll: :roll:
Yep, it was you, guess you really didn’t “leave” WJ and return!
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