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Hi all,

Looking for some insights about the Sim Eval, applied in April.
I've been hearing it's on 767 sim, but just curious what to expect, what would be given beforehand and what could i prepare on my side as well?
Thanks a lot. Cheers
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how many hours did you apply with? did you get contacted for a sim eval? I haven't heard of that if your'e over 2000
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flyingsquirrel777 wrote: Mon Jun 23, 2025 3:53 pm Hi all,

Looking for some insights about the Sim Eval, applied in April.
I've been hearing it's on 767 sim, but just curious what to expect, what would be given beforehand and what could i prepare on my side as well?
Thanks a lot. Cheers
They understand you don't know how a 767 flies. The goal is to test your aircraft handling skills and ability to never give up. If you becomes unstable on approach go around. Be prepared for entering a hold, tttsafe briefing, read the approach plate, basic IFR stuff but in the sim. Don't forget to use the second guy! Transfer control below 10k for briefing, etc
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flyingsquirrel777 wrote: Mon Jun 23, 2025 3:53 pm Hi all,

Looking for some insights about the Sim Eval, applied in April.
I've been hearing it's on 767 sim, but just curious what to expect, what would be given beforehand and what could i prepare on my side as well?
Thanks a lot. Cheers
It's mostly a CRM exercise mixed in with stick and rudder skills. Use your resources (the other pilot) and don't try and act like a one hit wonder up there. They know you can't fly a 767.
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AC has sim evals? No way

So the NHL is a now a starter gig?..
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Blueontop wrote: Fri Jun 27, 2025 8:32 pm AC has sim evals? No way

So the NHL is a now a starter gig?..
Players getting drafted from the top flight schools
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This company is going to have an accident. Besides the inexperienced new hire babysitting, nothing has changed in terms of fatigue management since the San Francisco near disaster. In fact it's gotten worse.
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Dry Guy wrote: Sat Jun 28, 2025 11:53 am This company is going to have an accident. Besides the inexperienced new hire babysitting, nothing has changed in terms of fatigue management since the San Francisco near disaster. In fact it's gotten worse.
fatigue rules improved, what are you refering to?
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People are working like 22 days a month.
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Daniel Cooper wrote: Mon Jun 30, 2025 9:47 am People are working like 22 days a month.
Pay your dues pay your dues pay your dues pay your dues
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JungleRiot wrote: Mon Jun 30, 2025 10:50 am
Daniel Cooper wrote: Mon Jun 30, 2025 9:47 am People are working like 22 days a month.
Pay your dues pay your dues pay your dues pay your dues
Pay your shareholders
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Daniel Cooper wrote: Mon Jun 30, 2025 9:47 am People are working like 22 days a month.
Yikes. Living the dream!
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JungleRiot wrote: Mon Jun 30, 2025 10:50 am
Daniel Cooper wrote: Mon Jun 30, 2025 9:47 am People are working like 22 days a month.
Pay your dues pay your dues pay your dues pay your dues
not everyone does that, Narrow Body is capped at 16, so 19 if you are really unluck and get art + 2 sim in the same month.

Wide body is also a different animal with it's own different fatigue rule. I can't speak about them, but they often fly with an extra 1-2 pilots and get to sleep at some point to make sure everyone is fit for the landing. But i have heard that doing 6 crossing a month is really not good on the sleep schedule.
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JungleRiot wrote: Mon Jun 30, 2025 10:50 am
Daniel Cooper wrote: Mon Jun 30, 2025 9:47 am People are working like 22 days a month.
Pay your dues pay your dues pay your dues pay your dues
Pay your dues? @#$! that... the industry has turned into a pilot's market and "paying your dues" has gone the way of bonds.
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Blueontop wrote: Fri Jun 27, 2025 8:32 pm AC has sim evals? No way

So the NHL is a now a starter gig?..
They’re drafting from the PeeWee and Midget leagues now. :smt040
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flieslikeachicken wrote: Mon Jun 30, 2025 3:07 pm
JungleRiot wrote: Mon Jun 30, 2025 10:50 am
Daniel Cooper wrote: Mon Jun 30, 2025 9:47 am People are working like 22 days a month.
Pay your dues pay your dues pay your dues pay your dues
Pay your dues? @#$! that... the industry has turned into a pilot's market and "paying your dues" has gone the way of bonds.
Companies know that. Unions don't seem to realize it.
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Man_in_the_sky wrote: Mon Jun 30, 2025 2:16 pm
JungleRiot wrote: Mon Jun 30, 2025 10:50 am
Daniel Cooper wrote: Mon Jun 30, 2025 9:47 am People are working like 22 days a month.
Pay your dues pay your dues pay your dues pay your dues
not everyone does that, Narrow Body is capped at 16, so 19 if you are really unluck and get art + 2 sim in the same month.

Wide body is also a different animal with it's own different fatigue rule. I can't speak about them, but they often fly with an extra 1-2 pilots and get to sleep at some point to make sure everyone is fit for the landing. But i have heard that doing 6 crossing a month is really not good on the sleep schedule.
6 crossings a month ???!!
@#$! that
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daedalusx wrote: Mon Jun 30, 2025 9:58 pm
Man_in_the_sky wrote: Mon Jun 30, 2025 2:16 pm
JungleRiot wrote: Mon Jun 30, 2025 10:50 am

Pay your dues pay your dues pay your dues pay your dues
not everyone does that, Narrow Body is capped at 16, so 19 if you are really unluck and get art + 2 sim in the same month.

Wide body is also a different animal with it's own different fatigue rule. I can't speak about them, but they often fly with an extra 1-2 pilots and get to sleep at some point to make sure everyone is fit for the landing. But i have heard that doing 6 crossing a month is really not good on the sleep schedule.
6 crossings a month ???!!
@#$! that
junior schedules seems to be that, bunch of CDG / LHR , 24 hour layover, good thing is you are gone 48 hour, compares to the brutal 4 dayer 12 legs pairing we get on narrow body.
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Man_in_the_sky wrote: Tue Jul 01, 2025 5:50 am
daedalusx wrote: Mon Jun 30, 2025 9:58 pm
Man_in_the_sky wrote: Mon Jun 30, 2025 2:16 pm

not everyone does that, Narrow Body is capped at 16, so 19 if you are really unluck and get art + 2 sim in the same month.

Wide body is also a different animal with it's own different fatigue rule. I can't speak about them, but they often fly with an extra 1-2 pilots and get to sleep at some point to make sure everyone is fit for the landing. But i have heard that doing 6 crossing a month is really not good on the sleep schedule.
6 crossings a month ???!!
@#$! that
junior schedules seems to be that, bunch of CDG / LHR , 24 hour layover, good thing is you are gone 48 hour, compares to the brutal 4 dayer 12 legs pairing we get on narrow body.
To each his own. I’d much rather do 3 legs a day on a NB and be within 2 time zones than do a long red eye, stay up, reset your body clock, then do it again on the way back.

How come you guys didn’t go for a WB cap on the last world standard premium elite contract ?
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daedalusx wrote: Tue Jul 01, 2025 9:27 am
Man_in_the_sky wrote: Tue Jul 01, 2025 5:50 am
daedalusx wrote: Mon Jun 30, 2025 9:58 pm

6 crossings a month ???!!
@#$! that
junior schedules seems to be that, bunch of CDG / LHR , 24 hour layover, good thing is you are gone 48 hour, compares to the brutal 4 dayer 12 legs pairing we get on narrow body.
To each his own. I’d much rather do 3 legs a day on a NB and be within 2 time zones than do a long red eye, stay up, reset your body clock, then do it again on the way back.

How come you guys didn’t go for a WB cap on the last world standard premium elite contract ?
I'm sure they tried, some aspect were left aside for future negociation i guess. I think everyone was asking for money more than cap on WB ...
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Man_in_the_sky wrote: Tue Jul 01, 2025 5:50 am
daedalusx wrote: Mon Jun 30, 2025 9:58 pm
Man_in_the_sky wrote: Mon Jun 30, 2025 2:16 pm

not everyone does that, Narrow Body is capped at 16, so 19 if you are really unluck and get art + 2 sim in the same month.

Wide body is also a different animal with it's own different fatigue rule. I can't speak about them, but they often fly with an extra 1-2 pilots and get to sleep at some point to make sure everyone is fit for the landing. But i have heard that doing 6 crossing a month is really not good on the sleep schedule.
6 crossings a month ???!!
@#$! that
junior schedules seems to be that, bunch of CDG / LHR , 24 hour layover, good thing is you are gone 48 hour, compares to the brutal 4 dayer 12 legs pairing we get on narrow body.
Hmmm...we used to do 9 legs in a day sometimes on one type or sometimes 8 legs on an overnight shift on another type.
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Man_in_the_sky wrote: Tue Jul 01, 2025 5:50 am
daedalusx wrote: Mon Jun 30, 2025 9:58 pm
Man_in_the_sky wrote: Mon Jun 30, 2025 2:16 pm

not everyone does that, Narrow Body is capped at 16, so 19 if you are really unluck and get art + 2 sim in the same month.

Wide body is also a different animal with it's own different fatigue rule. I can't speak about them, but they often fly with an extra 1-2 pilots and get to sleep at some point to make sure everyone is fit for the landing. But i have heard that doing 6 crossing a month is really not good on the sleep schedule.
6 crossings a month ???!!
@#$! that
Compares to the brutal 4 dayer 12 legs pairing we get on narrow body.
Confirmed, AC is a regional airline
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daedalusx wrote: Mon Jun 30, 2025 9:58 pm
Man_in_the_sky wrote: Mon Jun 30, 2025 2:16 pm
JungleRiot wrote: Mon Jun 30, 2025 10:50 am

Pay your dues pay your dues pay your dues pay your dues
not everyone does that, Narrow Body is capped at 16, so 19 if you are really unluck and get art + 2 sim in the same month.

Wide body is also a different animal with it's own different fatigue rule. I can't speak about them, but they often fly with an extra 1-2 pilots and get to sleep at some point to make sure everyone is fit for the landing. But i have heard that doing 6 crossing a month is really not good on the sleep schedule.


6 crossings a month ???!!
@#$! that

Heck, 5 crossings is tiring!
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Curious, do they let you use the FD for the sim eval?
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Heck, 5 crossings is tiring!
I can confirm that that is an understatement.
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