CBC coverage- Pilot’s frustrated ATC rant

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Re: CBC coverage- Pilot’s frustrated ATC rant

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Tbayer2021 wrote: Fri Jul 25, 2025 12:49 pm
Stu Pidasso wrote: Fri Jul 25, 2025 12:43 pm That particular Captain said on the PA, what most Pilots think. The PA shouldn't be used as a soap box, but that is my opinion.

Last year at the "Take Your Kid to Work Day" there was the usual tour of the VR Tower. During the tour the Controller announced the following to the group of grade 9 kids.

"Take a look around, no one in this room made under $400,000 last year"

So that puts a VFR Tower Controller out earning 99.9999% of Professional Pilots in this Country.
You're comparing a controller's salary with a substantial amount of OT with a pilot's base salary. No shortage of pilots picking up every OT pairing they can and cracking 400k.
777 / 330 / 787 SENIOR Captains at Air Canada, that is a very small percentage of Professional Pilots in Canada. Nav Canada should be eliminated for what they have allowed to happen in Canadian Aviation. 400K for a VFR Tower controller is obscene.
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Re: CBC coverage- Pilot’s frustrated ATC rant

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Stu Pidasso wrote: Sat Jul 26, 2025 7:27 am
777 / 330 / 787 SENIOR Captains at Air Canada, that is a very small percentage of Professional Pilots in Canada. Nav Canada should be eliminated for what they have allowed to happen in Canadian Aviation. 400K for a VFR Tower controller is obscene.
They're working 8 days on, 1 day off to do that. Pretty sure flight crews don't work that many hours.
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Re: CBC coverage- Pilot’s frustrated ATC rant

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nvcatc wrote: Sat Jul 26, 2025 12:44 pm
Stu Pidasso wrote: Sat Jul 26, 2025 7:27 am
777 / 330 / 787 SENIOR Captains at Air Canada, that is a very small percentage of Professional Pilots in Canada. Nav Canada should be eliminated for what they have allowed to happen in Canadian Aviation. 400K for a VFR Tower controller is obscene.
They're working 8 days on, 1 day off to do that. Pretty sure flight crews don't work that many hours.
Exactly, and while overtime isn't mandatory they are doing it to keep the place operating and not leave their coworkers dangerously short staffed. If there was anywhere near enough staff those numbers would be way down.
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Re: CBC coverage- Pilot’s frustrated ATC rant

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nvcatc wrote: Sat Jul 26, 2025 12:44 pm They're working 8 days on, 1 day off to do that. Pretty sure flight crews don't work that many hours.
There were Rouge pilots making over $400k years ago but they also had to work pretty hard for it.

If the Tower controllers making that much money are the same people training the new staff I can see a strong financial motivation to not help them succeed in their roles. That is top 1% income.
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Re: CBC coverage- Pilot’s frustrated ATC rant

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Stu Pidasso wrote: Sat Jul 26, 2025 7:27 am
Tbayer2021 wrote: Fri Jul 25, 2025 12:49 pm
Stu Pidasso wrote: Fri Jul 25, 2025 12:43 pm That particular Captain said on the PA, what most Pilots think. The PA shouldn't be used as a soap box, but that is my opinion.

Last year at the "Take Your Kid to Work Day" there was the usual tour of the VR Tower. During the tour the Controller announced the following to the group of grade 9 kids.

"Take a look around, no one in this room made under $400,000 last year"

So that puts a VFR Tower Controller out earning 99.9999% of Professional Pilots in this Country.
You're comparing a controller's salary with a substantial amount of OT with a pilot's base salary. No shortage of pilots picking up every OT pairing they can and cracking 400k.
777 / 330 / 787 SENIOR Captains at Air Canada, that is a very small percentage of Professional Pilots in Canada. Nav Canada should be eliminated for what they have allowed to happen in Canadian Aviation. 400K for a VFR Tower controller is obscene.
Senior AC wide body captains are far from the only ones breaking 400k. I've seen T4s under Westjet's old contract over 400k. I've met sunwing and transat pilots who have shown me they've done the same.

I think you dont realize some pilots spend every day off they can picking up premium trips. Just like these controllers making over 400.
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