What’s Air Canada looking for?

[B797ER]

Hello,

Anyone got insight on what AC is looking for nowadays? Besides the min?

Seems like lots of people are getting refused job offers that are qualified.

Anything specific ? Av degree or pic jet time ?

If anyone has any ideas I’d appreciate it

Blue skies

[702pipeliner]

Just cause they meet the minimum requirements does not mean they are qualified.

[JungleRiot]

Hello,

Anyone got insight on what AC is looking for nowadays? Besides the min?

Seems like lots of people are getting refused job offers that are qualified.

Anything specific ? Av degree or pic jet time ?

If anyone has any ideas I’d appreciate it

Blue skies

Chep labor, paying your dues and complete subservience

[confusedalot]

once the company gets past all of the minority inclusion stuff, they have to hire certain age groups at certain times to keep the system going. or else they end up with staffing problems.

nothing to do with who you are. everything to do with keeping the system running.

[sportingrifle]

Two things that are in the back of the hiring boards mind are a candidate’s ability to get through the initial course, and later on, their ability to get through a command upgrade. As a result, in no particular order:

Multi crew PIC time.
Transport category 705 time especially in larger aircraft.
University degree.
Previous training or ACP experience.
Military time.

While perhaps looked on as a bonus, little weight is placed on ticking DEI boxes or bilingualism. Internal references are quite helpful as is a track record that demonstrates a work ethic and increasing responsibilities. Age is not a barrier, although it certainly limits your career at Big Red.

A long history of failed rides, hard to explain short employment periods, and unverifiable flying history are going to be big red flags. YMMV

[altiplano]

There absolutely is DEI weight. This is one of the wokest companies in the Western hemisphere.

Anyway, you can't control that. What you can do is show progression in your career, a track of moving forward - bigger airplanes, command positions, training, checking, rinse and repeat...

[confusedalot]

Two things that are in the back of the hiring boards mind are a candidate’s ability to get through the initial course, and later on, their ability to get through a command upgrade. As a result, in no particular order:

Multi crew PIC time.
Transport category 705 time especially in larger aircraft.
University degree.
Previous training or ACP experience.
Military time.

While perhaps looked on as a bonus, little weight is placed on ticking DEI boxes or bilingualism. Internal references are quite helpful as is a track record that demonstrates a work ethic and increasing responsibilities. Age is not a barrier, although it certainly limits your career at Big Red.

A long history of failed rides, hard to explain short employment periods, and unverifiable flying history are going to be big red flags. YMMV

old and retired so have zero in this game.

as an example, and only an example, one guy I know got fed up with working for a rather large well known asian carrier that used to be run by the brits, carrier shall remain nameless. on top of that sharpest guy I have met, and he has an ame licence.

so he wanted to get back to canada.

he was turned down.

[cdnavater]

Two things that are in the back of the hiring boards mind are a candidate’s ability to get through the initial course, and later on, their ability to get through a command upgrade. As a result, in no particular order:

Multi crew PIC time.
Transport category 705 time especially in larger aircraft.
University degree.
Previous training or ACP experience.
Military time.

While perhaps looked on as a bonus, little weight is placed on ticking DEI boxes or bilingualism. Internal references are quite helpful as is a track record that demonstrates a work ethic and increasing responsibilities. Age is not a barrier, although it certainly limits your career at Big Red.

A long history of failed rides, hard to explain short employment periods, and unverifiable flying history are going to be big red flags. YMMV

old and retired so have zero in this game.

as an example, and only an example, one guy I know got fed up with working for a rather large well known asian carrier that used to be run by the brits, carrier shall remain nameless. on top of that sharpest guy I have met, and he has an ame licence.

so he wanted to get back to canada.

he was turned down.

Hardly proof of anything other than your guy didn’t interview well!
I know some really great pilots turned down by AC and some real absolute idiots who were hired and no they were not DEI either!

[‘Bob’]

Two things that are in the back of the hiring boards mind are a candidate’s ability to get through the initial course, and later on, their ability to get through a command upgrade. As a result, in no particular order:

Multi crew PIC time.
Transport category 705 time especially in larger aircraft.
University degree.
Previous training or ACP experience.
Military time.

While perhaps looked on as a bonus, little weight is placed on ticking DEI boxes or bilingualism. Internal references are quite helpful as is a track record that demonstrates a work ethic and increasing responsibilities. Age is not a barrier, although it certainly limits your career at Big Red.

A long history of failed rides, hard to explain short employment periods, and unverifiable flying history are going to be big red flags. YMMV

old and retired so have zero in this game.

as an example, and only an example, one guy I know got fed up with working for a rather large well known asian carrier that used to be run by the brits, carrier shall remain nameless. on top of that sharpest guy I have met, and he has an ame licence.

so he wanted to get back to canada.

he was turned down.

Everyone I’ve known who’s worked for CX…. is… how do I put it.. different


None have lasted more than a couple years at any place I’ve worked.. and that’s sometimes after Air Canada.

[confusedalot]

Two things that are in the back of the hiring boards mind are a candidate’s ability to get through the initial course, and later on, their ability to get through a command upgrade. As a result, in no particular order:

Multi crew PIC time.
Transport category 705 time especially in larger aircraft.
University degree.
Previous training or ACP experience.
Military time.

While perhaps looked on as a bonus, little weight is placed on ticking DEI boxes or bilingualism. Internal references are quite helpful as is a track record that demonstrates a work ethic and increasing responsibilities. Age is not a barrier, although it certainly limits your career at Big Red.

A long history of failed rides, hard to explain short employment periods, and unverifiable flying history are going to be big red flags. YMMV

old and retired so have zero in this game.

as an example, and only an example, one guy I know got fed up with working for a rather large well known asian carrier that used to be run by the brits, carrier shall remain nameless. on top of that sharpest guy I have met, and he has an ame licence.

so he wanted to get back to canada.

he was turned down.

Everyone I’ve known who’s worked for CX…. is… how do I put it.. different


None have lasted more than a couple years at any place I’ve worked.. and that’s sometimes after Air Canada.

pushed airplanes around the world, with little to no problems.

explain what different means.

[EPR]

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Hardly proof of anything other than your guy didn’t interview well!
I know some really great pilots turned down by AC and some real absolute idiots who were hired and no they were not DEI either!
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Sounds like HR has lost their way when it comes to selecting Pilots!

[ant_321]

AC hiring has always been interesting. Prior to the hiring spree, some of the best pilots who ticked all the boxes that I know couldn’t get a job while at the same time 2 of the biggest idiots I know got hired. One guy was an un-upgradable high time FO. We’re talking 5000hrs plus on a 1900, terrible pilot with a matching attitude. The second was PFO’d by nearly every 705 in Canada and then hired at AC a few months later, I guess he got good at interviewing.

[MaxAuto]

If you're to experienced to stroke the egos of the pilots on the panel, you're not get hired.

[confusedalot]

interesting posts.

human nature is what it is, and the outcome is no more than a crapshoot.

after all of the tests and all, it only comes down to one thing.

if the guy on the other side on the table likes you, yer in. if he does not, yer done.

experience, no experience, good, bad, marginally qualified or overqualified means nothing in that world.