Why this job pay like sh*t?

[Pacqing]

Prince Rupert has everything a small city has. It has daily flights to Vancouver but as you can see its at the end of the road but not really isolated. Seal Cove float base has a great aviation community and would be a good place for an appy or even licenced guy to spend time getting experience. As with all places some call it home and some spend a few years there and move on. If you like the ocean and are a boat person and like fishing/sea food then this is a great place.

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licenced guy to spend time getting experience

To what end? If you've got an M1 license you can work pretty much anywhere in Canada nowadays.

[Pacqing]

It might get you out of ON and to the West coast, that in itself would be "to what end"

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It might get you out of ON and to the West coast, that in itself would be "to what end"

I'm genuinely curious: are there companies on the West Coast that would turn down an M1 licensed AME if they applied and made somewhat of an acceptable first impression?

Based on stories from (ex)colleagues, I'm under the impression that all of Canada is looking for AMEs, and thus people could work for more money in a more desirable spot on the West coast. But that's just stories.

[DonutHole]

I started my career in Northern Saskatchewan

NOBODY was making 100k a year working m1. Shit, as a fourth year apprentice I was being paid 26.50 an hour.

[DonutHole]

It might get you out of ON and to the West coast, that in itself would be "to what end"

I'm genuinely curious: are there companies on the West Coast that would turn down an M1 licensed AME if they applied and made somewhat of an acceptable first impression?

Based on stories from (ex)colleagues, I'm under the impression that all of Canada is looking for AMEs, and thus people could work for more money in a more desirable spot on the West coast. But that's just stories.

For sure, you could get a job making 100k annually working in a modern metropolis with all the associated conveniences and luxuries, but you still will be living in the rental class.

[DonutHole]

Where are all these 100k/140k a year jobs for m1 engineers?

There is exactly 1 posted in the job ads section here and it's Inlands.

That's a STARTING WAGE of roughly $52/hr

if you're in the majors, thats pretty much where you will top out!

I don't know of another small operator offering more right now.

[BeyondScrewed89]

solution (why this job pay like sh*t?) is very simple

close down centennial college, and prevent further international students from centennial joining Canadian aviation workforce

its really as simple as that, its simple supply and demand

all problem will be solved if we just close down centennial college, I am not joking especially since only thing the international students do at centennial college downsview campus is cheat on all exams and ruin canadians' centennial college experience

do international students from centennial college EVER join CAF? NOT A FUCKING CHANCE

are centennial international students always looking to work at a lower wage or receieve government subsidized wage? ABSOLUTELY

What do those 2 factors do? drive Canadian aviation work force wage lower

[TeePeeCreeper]

solution (why this job pay like sh*t?) is very simple

close down centennial college, and prevent further international students from centennial joining Canadian aviation workforce

its really as simple as that, its simple supply and demand

all problem will be solved if we just close down centennial college, I am not joking especially since only thing the international students do at centennial college downsview campus is cheat on all exams and ruin canadians' centennial college experience

do international students from centennial college EVER join CAF? NOT A FUCKING CHANCE

are centennial international students always looking to work at a lower wage or receieve government subsidized wage? ABSOLUTELY

What do those 2 factors do? drive Canadian aviation work force wage lower

Hi alter ego aka « ludivicchu »,

Your therapy isn’t going according to plan. Again, it’s not normal nor is it healthy to come back to Avcanada with this new found level of hatred. (Who are you mad at again? It’s getting a wee bit hard to follow you)

On another yet thread related note… should anyone be curious about Donuthole’s job offer I can confirm that if I were on the Mx side, wouldn’t hesitate to collaborate with his organization. ‘Rupert is what you make out of it. The locals there happen to make the place special and imho for all the good reasons!

TPC

[BeyondScrewed89]

Hi alter ego aka « ludivicchu »,

Your therapy isn’t going according to plan. Again, it’s not normal nor is it healthy to come back to Avcanada with this new found level of hatred. (Who are you mad at again? It’s getting a wee bit hard to follow you)

On another yet thread related note… should anyone be curious about Donuthole’s job offer I can confirm that if I were on the Mx side, wouldn’t hesitate to collaborate with his organization. ‘Rupert is what you make out of it. The locals there happen to make the place special and imho for all the good reasons!

TPC

It really is a simple math, you may refuse to acknowledge this, but everyone except you is really starting to understand this

if those international students come here with experience or licensed from EASA or something, nobody complains, completely acceptable

but scam diploma mills such as centennial really is a problem, all they do is lower wages for everyone else

[helicopterray]

Where are all these 100k/140k a year jobs for m1 engineers?

There is exactly 1 posted in the job ads section here and it's Inlands.

That's a STARTING WAGE of roughly $52/hr

if you're in the majors, thats pretty much where you will top out!

I don't know of another small operator offering more right now.

It's on the helicopter side.

[Bug_Stomper_01]

This job does not 'pay like sh*t.'

I've been in the industry 37 years. Getting paid exceptionally well by my current employer, and also by my the previous 3 employers going back over 10 years. I won't tell you my numbers because I signed an NDA. The companies I talk to regularly pay very well as well, so I do feel like I have a good idea on the industry.

You come across as someone who didn't have the skills to make it in the industry and got weeded out fairly quickly. It happens. So now you come back here venting about how horrible the industry itself is. But you wouldn't know, you got weeded out.

For your own piece of mind, move on. Find another hobby, website, to pass your time.

It does if you just take whatever is offered, people that are multi-endorsed and are experienced can command whatever they want these days with the pool being drawn from being pretty well dried up. Canada (from what transport Canada has disclosed in the last year or so) has had an AME population shrinkage of 1300 licenses from the 17000 published in 2019. You can disclose numbers (unless you’ve previously disclosed your current employer) without breach of said NDA.

[BrianLarson]

I cannot help it but to vent out my frustrations regarding this industry and the AME profession. Why do all jobs in the aviation industry seem to pay so low and why does the AME profession pay so f*cking low and top out so f*cking low after all their demands?

An RPN in Canada which require just a 2-year diploma starts out at $32/hr with no experience. What the f*cking sh*t, that is how much we make with decades of experience and multiple endorsements. And how come an ACA pay just $2/hr more? Lol, you must be f*cking kidding me! An RPN has mobility such as you can go back to school, get your 4-year degree and become RN while this job is just dead-end! Let me ask you this: how many people do you see in this industry that is a jack-of-all-trades? It is common and it means nothing in terms of money!

It is so f*cking frustrating that this job is so expensive and demand too much all while you start out with minimum wage then gradually to peanuts. This is a very small industry also that require you to move everytime you get a f*cking job.
Here in this country, we are stuck in this rat's race and expensive cost of living and this job is just not doing it for me! Lol! Pursuing this career is a race to the bottom!
I have had enough with this abusive work and I threw in the towel a long time ago! Lmao get a f*cking real job people! Get a job in CATSA and they will pay you more just to sit down. Or you could do what I'm doing and make more just to stand up. You heard that correctly! My job is just to stand up and my f*cking god I am making more money than this pathetic AME profession!

I felt this until I shifted my focus a bit and found something that actually worked for me financially. These days I’ve been getting a bit of extra income through projects like visit website - just a fun side activity that turned into a surprising boost. Not saying it’s a magic fix, but it definitely helped me stop stressing so much about the paycheck.

This job does not pay decently, in fact, it pays pathetically poor, and this is coming from my own experience when I did this!

I am just so frustrated with money and I am being forced to hustle! Lol! What is up with the pay and the schedule? Is this some kind of a joke?

This profession and this industry is ridiculous! How do you people survive doing this job with it's pathetic pay? Lol!

I totally understand your frustration — many folks in aviation share the same sentiment. The pay just doesn’t seem to match the level of skill, responsibility, or the costs of certification that come with the job. It’s wild when you think about how it stacks up against other trades or even entry-level positions that require less training.

A lot of AMEs find themselves moving on to better-paying technical jobs or government positions where the hours and benefits are much more appealing. If the industry wants to retain its talented workforce, it really needs to make some changes.