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anyone that sent their applications into WJ in October hear back yet?
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Hate to tell you this, but Westjet is likely going to hire much less pilots than originally planned. This is due to a reversal in the plan to force all of the age 65+ pilots out. The company has been ordered to keep them rostered until a ruling can be given next year some time. Sounds like the hiring forecast is down as a result.
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Blackdog0301 wrote: Wed Nov 12, 2025 5:31 pm Hate to tell you this, but Westjet is likely going to hire much less pilots than originally planned. This is due to a reversal in the plan to force all of the age 65+ pilots out. The company has been ordered to keep them rostered until a ruling can be given next year some time. Sounds like the hiring forecast is down as a result.
Do you have a source for this?
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leafs95 wrote: Wed Nov 12, 2025 8:50 pm
Blackdog0301 wrote: Wed Nov 12, 2025 5:31 pm Hate to tell you this, but Westjet is likely going to hire much less pilots than originally planned. This is due to a reversal in the plan to force all of the age 65+ pilots out. The company has been ordered to keep them rostered until a ruling can be given next year some time. Sounds like the hiring forecast is down as a result.
Do you have a source for this?
We have a Q&A from our VP each month. They were mentioning 22 to 26 upgrades for 2026 but then recently said that will be reduced now with the AR program staying until next summer’s arbitration. For new hires I think someone said around 100 for next year. Likely to also be reduced now.
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Blackdog0301 wrote: Wed Nov 12, 2025 5:31 pm Hate to tell you this, but Westjet is likely going to hire much less pilots than originally planned. This is due to a reversal in the plan to force all of the age 65+ pilots out. The company has been ordered to keep them rostered until a ruling can be given next year some time. Sounds like the hiring forecast is down as a result.
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MX-5 wrote: Thu Nov 13, 2025 7:52 am
Blackdog0301 wrote: Wed Nov 12, 2025 5:31 pm Hate to tell you this, but Westjet is likely going to hire much less pilots than originally planned. This is due to a reversal in the plan to force all of the age 65+ pilots out. The company has been ordered to keep them rostered until a ruling can be given next year some time. Sounds like the hiring forecast is down as a result.
“fewer”
Thank God you’re here to swoop in and correct every tiny grammatical slip. Without your vigilant typo patrol, these forums might actually function just fine. It’s almost impressive how little else you choose to contribute.
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Anyone who’s not a total moron has already figured out that there’s almost zero growth to be had at WestJet for the next 4 years. There is still 30+ 700s that need to be replaced. And some of the 800s are also getting really old.
Max10 at the very least not going to be certified until late 2026 which would bring first deliveries in 2027 at the very earliest. How many tails did WJ pick up in 2025 ? 2 ? With the decrease in USA travels, it’s almost working to their best interest that Boeing can’t seem to deliver on the original schedule.
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daedalusx wrote: Sat Nov 15, 2025 7:21 pm Anyone who’s not a total moron has already figured out that there’s almost zero growth to be had at WestJet for the next 4 years. There is still 30+ 700s that need to be replaced. And some of the 800s are also getting really old.
Max10 at the very least not going to be certified until late 2026 which would bring first deliveries in 2027 at the very earliest. How many tails did WJ pick up in 2025 ? 2 ? With the decrease in USA travels, it’s almost working to their best interest that Boeing can’t seem to deliver on the original schedule.
Well technically, WestJet acquired 22 tails this year so far. 4 from Boeing, 18 from Sunwing. And it looks like there's still 2 more scheduled for this year from Boeing. So that'd be 6 new tails. Not arguing your point. Just polishing up those numbers a bit. Growth will indeed be negligible. But the fleet has grown by 22 tails in 2025 thus far with zero retired.
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Blackdog0301 wrote: Sat Nov 15, 2025 9:12 pm
daedalusx wrote: Sat Nov 15, 2025 7:21 pm Anyone who’s not a total moron has already figured out that there’s almost zero growth to be had at WestJet for the next 4 years. There is still 30+ 700s that need to be replaced. And some of the 800s are also getting really old.
Max10 at the very least not going to be certified until late 2026 which would bring first deliveries in 2027 at the very earliest. How many tails did WJ pick up in 2025 ? 2 ? With the decrease in USA travels, it’s almost working to their best interest that Boeing can’t seem to deliver on the original schedule.
Well technically, WestJet acquired 22 tails this year so far. 4 from Boeing, 18 from Sunwing. And it looks like there's still 2 more scheduled for this year from Boeing. So that'd be 6 new tails. Not arguing your point. Just polishing up those numbers a bit. Growth will indeed be negligible. But the fleet has grown by 22 tails in 2025 thus far with zero retired.
Ok sure … 18 tails and 450 pilots from Sunwing. That’s also negative growth :mrgreen:
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daedalusx wrote: Sat Nov 15, 2025 11:06 pm
Blackdog0301 wrote: Sat Nov 15, 2025 9:12 pm
daedalusx wrote: Sat Nov 15, 2025 7:21 pm Anyone who’s not a total moron has already figured out that there’s almost zero growth to be had at WestJet for the next 4 years. There is still 30+ 700s that need to be replaced. And some of the 800s are also getting really old.
Max10 at the very least not going to be certified until late 2026 which would bring first deliveries in 2027 at the very earliest. How many tails did WJ pick up in 2025 ? 2 ? With the decrease in USA travels, it’s almost working to their best interest that Boeing can’t seem to deliver on the original schedule.
Well technically, WestJet acquired 22 tails this year so far. 4 from Boeing, 18 from Sunwing. And it looks like there's still 2 more scheduled for this year from Boeing. So that'd be 6 new tails. Not arguing your point. Just polishing up those numbers a bit. Growth will indeed be negligible. But the fleet has grown by 22 tails in 2025 thus far with zero retired.
Ok sure … 18 tails and 450 pilots from Sunwing. That’s also negative growth :mrgreen:
Oh I know. Sunwing had no business having that many pilots.
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daedalusx wrote: Sat Nov 15, 2025 7:21 pm Anyone who’s not a total moron has already figured out that there’s almost zero growth to be had at WestJet for the next 4 years. There is still 30+ 700s that need to be replaced. And some of the 800s are also getting really old.
Max10 at the very least not going to be certified until late 2026 which would bring first deliveries in 2027 at the very earliest. How many tails did WJ pick up in 2025 ? 2 ? With the decrease in USA travels, it’s almost working to their best interest that Boeing can’t seem to deliver on the original schedule.
There are three reasons to *want* to go to WestJet. Someone can have one or multiple of these reasons to go.
  • They want a Calgary or Vancouver base
  • They can't get a job at Air Canada
  • They make bad choices and/or do not know how to research working conditions
I'm sure WestJet will become a good place to be five to ten years after Onex divests from their stake, but until then, it's not the paradise it used to be.
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What is the lastest with the last job posting at WJ?

Are they still calling people? Or has the plan changed with the +65 rule you guys have at WJ?
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Canadianpilot2024 wrote: Mon Nov 24, 2025 10:25 am What is the lastest with the last job posting at WJ?

Are they still calling people? Or has the plan changed with the +65 rule you guys have at WJ?
No good news from today’s pilot call, no hiring is forecasted for 2026.
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No hiring off the street and no upgrades is the latest, we'll see if it stays this way.
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My guess is we will see the next round of hiring and upgrades closer to 2029 when the new 787s are due to arrive. Max deliveries appear to be mainly fleet replacements for aging NGs. I wouldn’t be surprised to see an occasional new hire class to replace FOs leaving for Porter and AC. Certainly if CA3 doesn’t deliver that could become a catalyst for lots of people to leave with the zero growth/movement/upgrades that has stagnated this company for years.
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Canadaflyer46 wrote: Sat Dec 06, 2025 8:10 am My guess is we will see the next round of hiring and upgrades closer to 2029 when the new 787s are due to arrive. Max deliveries appear to be mainly fleet replacements for aging NGs. I wouldn’t be surprised to see an occasional new hire class to replace FOs leaving for Porter and AC. Certainly if CA3 doesn’t deliver that could become a catalyst for lots of people to leave with the zero growth/movement/upgrades that has stagnated this company for years.
That would be pretty sad, considering that air travel is overall still up and on the upwards trajectory. Yes we are not in the 2022/23 hiring craze, but still...
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Another slow year coming up for the industry.
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Typical pre-contract negotiation tactic, carrot in the fall "3 classes in 2026" followed by stick in winter "no hiring in 2026".
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WestJet is directionless.
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notmicktwotter wrote: Wed Nov 12, 2025 12:42 pm anyone that sent their applications into WJ in October hear back yet?
Just heard back. Not moving forward. I met the requirements, not sure if it's related to the competitiveness or if it's just the rumours that they are not hiring in 2026 anymore.
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It is not a rumor. Management said no hiring no upgrade for 2026.
It's the latest anyway.
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MaxAuto wrote: Tue Dec 16, 2025 3:40 pm WestJet is directionless.
Oh, it has a direction. Because employees in general, and pilots in particular, don’t like that direction, doesn’t make WestJet directionless
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Canadaflyer46 wrote: Sat Dec 06, 2025 8:10 am My guess is we will see the next round of hiring and upgrades closer to 2029 when the new 787s are due to arrive. Max deliveries appear to be mainly fleet replacements for aging NGs. I wouldn’t be surprised to see an occasional new hire class to replace FOs leaving for Porter and AC. Certainly if CA3 doesn’t deliver that could become a catalyst for lots of people to leave with the zero growth/movement/upgrades that has stagnated this company for years.
I would think that there are still retirements happening for the next four years and therefore some upgrades. Maybe YYZ will do better than YYC.
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