US Air Travel Down, Overall Air Travel Up.

[‘Bob’]

All you have to do is look at what was achievable in the 1970s/1980s vs today and the amount of effort and money required to do so.


In the 70s and 80s.. a high school drop out could get a decent paying union factory job in his hometown, buy a detached house, and raise a family with money to spare on a single income.

Today.. that requires at least two professional incomes, a side hustle, and renting out a suite to do the same thing.

Boomers wondering why millennials are “killing” every industry. They aren’t buying lottery tickets, they aren’t gambling, they aren’t buying new cars, they aren’t buying cigarettes and alcohol, they aren’t eating out, they aren’t having kids, etc etc.

Because they don’t have the time between two jobs and a side hustle just to stay afloat and they definitely don’t have the money.

And no.. avocado toast and a $2000 phone isn’t the difference between being able to afford a house and not being able to. Inflation on a detached house literally outpaced most people’s entire take home income in the last 5 years.

[Old fella]

Old Boomer here…..

Can someone give me a reasonable explanation with examples why I had it so good in the ‘50s, ‘60s and ‘70s. Honestly I would like to know and understand where I f*cked up during those far back decades and how my f*ckup led to the detriment of the younger named generation group.

Just asking for a friend

You reaped all the benefits of high taxes, massive infrastructure investment, strong labour, cheap education, and housing growth that your parents generation graciously handed to you. You were born into the post-war boom and benefited from the strongest middle class and upward mobility in history. Then when your earnings peaked you proceeded to cut taxes, kneecap social spending and tear down everything that gave you all those opportunities. You pulled up the ladder for the next generation and have continued to leach all the wealth created since.

There are several alarming reports right now showing that for the first time in history men aged 65+ are out-earning men 25-34 years old. I hope I don't need to explain to your demented self why it's really fucking bad to have retired people earning more than those of prime working age. The younger generations are royally fucked and boomers, as a whole, continue to do everything in their power to hoard and prevent any transfer of wealth and opportunities to their children. You have not only stolen your children's future but are now stealing from their children as well.

You are the most selfish, greedy, immoral, egocentric, downright evil and disgusting pigs in modern history. It's going to take a century to recover from all the damage you have caused to society and the human race will be immeasurably better off when you're all rotting in the ground.

How's that?

Ahhhh…. The’50/60/70s shit show and those times were splattered with shit. I know because I was there. Indeed consider yourself quite fortunate because you and your “want it all now” generation wouldn’t have survived those times, you couldn’t cope with it as your lot are to soft. It would be like out in the woods with a box of wet matches, you would blame everything and everyone else as being their fault.
The world owes you SFA, going forward you had best realize that it will get much rougher.

Best of luck to you.

[thepoors]

Old Boomer here…..

Can someone give me a reasonable explanation with examples why I had it so good in the ‘50s, ‘60s and ‘70s. Honestly I would like to know and understand where I f*cked up during those far back decades and how my f*ckup led to the detriment of the younger named generation group.

Just asking for a friend

You reaped all the benefits of high taxes, massive infrastructure investment, strong labour, cheap education, and housing growth that your parents generation graciously handed to you. You were born into the post-war boom and benefited from the strongest middle class and upward mobility in history. Then when your earnings peaked you proceeded to cut taxes, kneecap social spending and tear down everything that gave you all those opportunities. You pulled up the ladder for the next generation and have continued to leach all the wealth created since.

There are several alarming reports right now showing that for the first time in history men aged 65+ are out-earning men 25-34 years old. I hope I don't need to explain to your demented self why it's really fucking bad to have retired people earning more than those of prime working age. The younger generations are royally fucked and boomers, as a whole, continue to do everything in their power to hoard and prevent any transfer of wealth and opportunities to their children. You have not only stolen your children's future but are now stealing from their children as well.

You are the most selfish, greedy, immoral, egocentric, downright evil and disgusting pigs in modern history. It's going to take a century to recover from all the damage you have caused to society and the human race will be immeasurably better off when you're all rotting in the ground.

How's that?

Ahhhh…. The’50/60/70s shit show and those times were splattered with shit. I know because I was there. Indeed consider yourself quite fortunate because you and your “want it all now” generation wouldn’t have survived those times, you couldn’t cope with it as your lot are to soft. It would be like out in the woods with a box of wet matches, you would blame everything and everyone else as being their fault.
The world owes you SFA, going forward you had best realize that it will get much rougher.

Best of luck to you.

Right... we're the soft ones. Coming from the old farts who throw a bitch fit anytime something doesn't go their way. (Prime example right here as I answered your question and you're lashing out because you don't like the answer).

What was a shit show in the 50s-70s? You sold out and sold off everything of value to corporations and private interests. What haven't you blamed as someone else's fault? What haven't you rigged, lied about, cheated and stolen to get your way?

The world owes me nothing. But you do. I much rather be of the "want it all now" generation than the "rape your young" generation. You sicken me.

[Tbayer2021]

Old Boomer here…..

Can someone give me a reasonable explanation with examples why I had it so good in the ‘50s, ‘60s and ‘70s. Honestly I would like to know and understand where I f*cked up during those far back decades and how my f*ckup led to the detriment of the younger named generation group.

Just asking for a friend

You reaped all the benefits of high taxes, massive infrastructure investment, strong labour, cheap education, and housing growth that your parents generation graciously handed to you. You were born into the post-war boom and benefited from the strongest middle class and upward mobility in history. Then when your earnings peaked you proceeded to cut taxes, kneecap social spending and tear down everything that gave you all those opportunities. You pulled up the ladder for the next generation and have continued to leach all the wealth created since.

There are several alarming reports right now showing that for the first time in history men aged 65+ are out-earning men 25-34 years old. I hope I don't need to explain to your demented self why it's really fucking bad to have retired people earning more than those of prime working age. The younger generations are royally fucked and boomers, as a whole, continue to do everything in their power to hoard and prevent any transfer of wealth and opportunities to their children. You have not only stolen your children's future but are now stealing from their children as well.

You are the most selfish, greedy, immoral, egocentric, downright evil and disgusting pigs in modern history. It's going to take a century to recover from all the damage you have caused to society and the human race will be immeasurably better off when you're all rotting in the ground.

How's that?

Ahhhh…. The’50/60/70s shit show and those times were splattered with shit. I know because I was there. Indeed consider yourself quite fortunate because you and your “want it all now” generation wouldn’t have survived those times, you couldn’t cope with it as your lot are to soft. It would be like out in the woods with a box of wet matches, you would blame everything and everyone else as being their fault.
The world owes you SFA, going forward you had best realize that it will get much rougher.

Best of luck to you.

"You're soft!", screamed the people that literally lost their shit when black people tried to drink form the same water fountain or dared to use the same entrance to a building as them.

Lmao. Like I said before. Don't even need to goto Yuk Yuks with these comedians around here.

[altiplano]

Hahahahaha... talk about comedians... now you're a racist if you are older than me/make more money than me/have a house... you guys are so fucking predictable.

Stop pointing fingers and go figure out how to make life work.

[thepoors]

Stop pointing fingers and go figure out how to make life work.

We're trying, you old fucks keep getting in the way.

[cdnavater]

You reaped all the benefits of high taxes, massive infrastructure investment, strong labour, cheap education, and housing growth that your parents generation graciously handed to you. You were born into the post-war boom and benefited from the strongest middle class and upward mobility in history. Then when your earnings peaked you proceeded to cut taxes, kneecap social spending and tear down everything that gave you all those opportunities. You pulled up the ladder for the next generation and have continued to leach all the wealth created since.

There are several alarming reports right now showing that for the first time in history men aged 65+ are out-earning men 25-34 years old. I hope I don't need to explain to your demented self why it's really fucking bad to have retired people earning more than those of prime working age. The younger generations are royally fucked and boomers, as a whole, continue to do everything in their power to hoard and prevent any transfer of wealth and opportunities to their children. You have not only stolen your children's future but are now stealing from their children as well.

You are the most selfish, greedy, immoral, egocentric, downright evil and disgusting pigs in modern history. It's going to take a century to recover from all the damage you have caused to society and the human race will be immeasurably better off when you're all rotting in the ground.

How's that?

Ahhhh…. The’50/60/70s shit show and those times were splattered with shit. I know because I was there. Indeed consider yourself quite fortunate because you and your “want it all now” generation wouldn’t have survived those times, you couldn’t cope with it as your lot are to soft. It would be like out in the woods with a box of wet matches, you would blame everything and everyone else as being their fault.
The world owes you SFA, going forward you had best realize that it will get much rougher.

Best of luck to you.

Right... we're the soft ones. Coming from the old farts who throw a bitch fit anytime something doesn't go their way. (Prime example right here as I answered your question and you're lashing out because you don't like the answer).

What was a shit show in the 50s-70s? You sold out and sold off everything of value to corporations and private interests. What haven't you blamed as someone else's fault? What haven't you rigged, lied about, cheated and stolen to get your way?

The world owes me nothing. But you do. I much rather be of the "want it all now" generation than the "rape your young" generation. You sicken me.

Wow, are you a sociopath? You literally said he should rot in the ground(wished death on him) and you think he lashed out, @#$! that is funny AF!

[thepoors]

Ahhhh…. The’50/60/70s shit show and those times were splattered with shit. I know because I was there. Indeed consider yourself quite fortunate because you and your “want it all now” generation wouldn’t have survived those times, you couldn’t cope with it as your lot are to soft. It would be like out in the woods with a box of wet matches, you would blame everything and everyone else as being their fault.
The world owes you SFA, going forward you had best realize that it will get much rougher.

Best of luck to you.

Right... we're the soft ones. Coming from the old farts who throw a bitch fit anytime something doesn't go their way. (Prime example right here as I answered your question and you're lashing out because you don't like the answer).

What was a shit show in the 50s-70s? You sold out and sold off everything of value to corporations and private interests. What haven't you blamed as someone else's fault? What haven't you rigged, lied about, cheated and stolen to get your way?

The world owes me nothing. But you do. I much rather be of the "want it all now" generation than the "rape your young" generation. You sicken me.

Wow, are you a sociopath? You literally said he should rot in the ground(wished death on him) and you think he lashed out, @#$! that is funny AF!

The fact that was your take away from my post just demonstrates the low IQ/cognitive decline problem we have with people of your ilk who are in power making decisions to the detriment of a large majority.

[Old fella]

This Generational stance is their view “The World owes me a living on my terms and this is what I want” because of their perceived injustice of the Generations behind them.

Good luck to them going forward in their lives because The World doesn’t gives f*ck - it never did, certainly not now and never will. That will be a bitter lesson.

[altiplano]

Victim is having a bitch fit...

[thepoors]

This Generational stance is their view “The World owes me and this is what I want” because of their perceived injustice of the Generations behind them.

Good luck to them going forward in their lives because The World doesn’t gives f*ck - it never did, certainly not now and never will. That will be a bitter lesson.

Why have you failed to address or refute a single point I made to the question you asked? Instead of projecting and continuing to prove exactly what's wrong with your generation. You're just sticking your fat fingers in your ears and yelling. Nobody wants to hear it anymore. Just accept you're irrelevant and @#$! off to the nursing home. We're collectively tired of dealing with your bullshit as a society.

[Old fella]

This Generational stance is their view “The World owes me and this is what I want” because of their perceived injustice of the Generations behind them.

Good luck to them going forward in their lives because The World doesn’t gives f*ck - it never did, certainly not now and never will. That will be a bitter lesson.

Why have you failed to address or refute a single point I made to the question you asked? Instead of projecting and continuing to prove exactly what's wrong with your generation. You're just sticking your fat fingers in your ears and yelling. Nobody wants to hear it anymore. Just accept you're irrelevant and @#$! off to the nursing home. We're collectively tired of dealing with your bullshit as a society.

Wow…. hopefully you don’t occupy the left seat of a commercial airliner with a few hundred behind you with such “ anger management “ issues.That’s truly scary

[cdnavater]

Right... we're the soft ones. Coming from the old farts who throw a bitch fit anytime something doesn't go their way. (Prime example right here as I answered your question and you're lashing out because you don't like the answer).

What was a shit show in the 50s-70s? You sold out and sold off everything of value to corporations and private interests. What haven't you blamed as someone else's fault? What haven't you rigged, lied about, cheated and stolen to get your way?

The world owes me nothing. But you do. I much rather be of the "want it all now" generation than the "rape your young" generation. You sicken me.

Wow, are you a sociopath? You literally said he should rot in the ground(wished death on him) and you think he lashed out, @#$! that is funny AF!

The fact that was your take away from my post just demonstrates the low IQ/cognitive decline problem we have with people of your ilk who are in power making decisions to the detriment of a large majority.

It’s really the only thing to get from that nonsense, cut taxes, cut taxes! Really! When has that happened and social spending has been at an all time high the last decade but leave it to your generation to look for more handouts!
“Now: In 2023, social protection spending was the single largest expense category for all levels of government combined, accounting for 26.4% of total government
1970s-1980s: Federal program spending as a share of GDP reached a peak of around 25% by the mid-1980s, a period of high overall government spending. Old Age Security (OAS) payments alone were around 1.8% of GDP in 1970
COVID-19 Pandemic Peak (2020): Public social spending across the OECD, including Canada, saw a significant temporary increase, with Canada's total program spending reaching an all-time high of 28.1% of GDP in 2021 due to emergency response measures like the Canada Emergency Response Benefit (CERB) and the Canada Emergency Wage Subsidy (CEWS). “

[cdnavater]

This Generational stance is their view “The World owes me and this is what I want” because of their perceived injustice of the Generations behind them.

Good luck to them going forward in their lives because The World doesn’t gives f*ck - it never did, certainly not now and never will. That will be a bitter lesson.

Why have you failed to address or refute a single point I made to the question you asked? Instead of projecting and continuing to prove exactly what's wrong with your generation. You're just sticking your fat fingers in your ears and yelling. Nobody wants to hear it anymore. Just accept you're irrelevant and @#$! off to the nursing home. We're collectively tired of dealing with your bullshit as a society.

Here is the real truth behind your vitriol,

Key Reasons for Boomer Blame

Economic Disparity & Housing: Boomers benefited from affordable housing and strong unions, while stricter zoning (influenced by Boomers) and stagnant wages now make homeownership difficult for younger groups, who feel they're hoarding opportunities

Workforce & Longevity: Boomers living longer and holding onto upper-level positions longer slows career progression for younger workers

In essence, "boomer-blaming" highlights real challenges faced by younger generations, but it often simplifies complex issues by focusing blame on a large demographic rather than specific policies or individuals responsible for systemic shifts

[BigQ]

As I alluded to above, if you want to blame Boomers for your troubles, we are in the PRIME BOOMER TO MILLENIAL WEALTH TRANSFER INDUSTRY. Either boomers are unreasonable people who hoard wealth and go on vacations and cruises instead of giving it to their kids, putting us in a great position, or boomers are nice people who are spreading their wealth equitably, and then we are in a great position too.

[co-joe]

Housing is gonna collapse once the boomers start moving into retirement homes and dying. They'll flood the market with homes few people can afford. Lots of supply, little demand, prices go down.

...

I doubt it. More like private equity firms will buy all of those homes, boomers will cash out and enjoy the money as the last generation to all own homes.

[Justjohn]

To the above two space cadets, it's not our job to teach you to use what's left of your brain. Go and pull up how much flight training costs, how much entry level salaries are, and how much housing costs where airlines are based. Do the math, and determine if you could have the luxurious life you currently have if you started today.

I've done this so many times with boomer colleagues and it's hilarious to watch their arrogance blow up in their face in real time as they realize they couldn't even afford rent if they started out today. Grow up.

Also, housing prices dropping is a pipe dream as long as Canada has millions of the world's poor flooding in faster than any other country in history. We're headed for chaos, and no amount of delusional thinking can stop this train.

OMFG what an entitled moron. Gen X here and when I reminisce about the early years I think about my first job in Moncton instructing at MFC. My room and board was $300/month living in the Patch across the street and one month I didn’t even make that much. Many of my Colleagues were European’s just hanging around long enough to build time towards their euro license and here as students later working on work permits. I knew it was time to move on. My next job was instructing in South Western Ontario. I flew just under a thousand hours that year and made $12900. That was my last full time flying job for a bunch of years because I just couldn’t afford to hang on.

I did some part time instructing and occasional charter work and my real job become driving trucks where I could make a decent living. When I jumped back into aviation because I just had to fly I left a driving job pay $75K a year and became a Navajo Captain for Prince Edward Air making 29K. My friends thought I was nuts. I was a 5000 hour guy at that point.

My experience was Not unique. There was no going to Air Canada or any other jet airline because they pretty much only hired ex military. Making it up the ladder to a King Air was like shooting for the moon.

The next entitled Gen Z’r I get in the right seat telling me how great I had it is just not going to be PF that day.

[cdnavater]

To the above two space cadets, it's not our job to teach you to use what's left of your brain. Go and pull up how much flight training costs, how much entry level salaries are, and how much housing costs where airlines are based. Do the math, and determine if you could have the luxurious life you currently have if you started today.

I've done this so many times with boomer colleagues and it's hilarious to watch their arrogance blow up in their face in real time as they realize they couldn't even afford rent if they started out today. Grow up.

Also, housing prices dropping is a pipe dream as long as Canada has millions of the world's poor flooding in faster than any other country in history. We're headed for chaos, and no amount of delusional thinking can stop this train.

OMFG what an entitled moron. Gen X here and when I reminisce about the early years I think about my first job in Moncton instructing at MFC. My room and board was $300/month living in the Patch across the street and one month I didn’t even make that much. Many of my Colleagues were European’s just hanging around long enough to build time towards their euro license and here as students later working on work permits. I knew it was time to move on. My next job was instructing in South Western Ontario. I flew just under a thousand hours that year and made $12900. That was my last full time flying job for a bunch of years because I just couldn’t afford to hang on.

I did some part time instructing and occasional charter work and my real job become driving trucks where I could make a decent living. When I jumped back into aviation because I just had to fly I left a driving job pay $75K a year and became a Navajo Captain for Prince Edward Air making 29K. My friends thought I was nuts. I was a 5000 hour guy at that point.

My experience was Not unique. There was no going to Air Canada or any other jet airline because they pretty much only hired ex military. Making it up the ladder to a King Air was like shooting for the moon.

The next entitled Gen Z’r I get in the right seat telling me how great I had it is just not going to be PF that day.

lol, their struggle is real, your story is just made up to them but I like your response very much!

[goingnowherefast]

A Jazz Dash 8 captain (37-50 seats) in the late 90s, early 2000s made about 160,000 base pay when adjusted for inflation.
Now someone flying the more productive version of the same plane (78 seats, 100+ kts faster) is making $115,000-$120,000. Adjust for the much more productive airplane, and the disparity is disturbing. This isn't about Jazz vs other Q400 operators, they all pay similar today.

My point is boomer captains made significantly more doing the same job.

There's a couple world events between now and then that were pretty tough on our profession, so I'm not blaming boomers entirely. Please do appreciate that the same job doesn't pay near as much as it used to.

It's a fact that millennials are worse off than their parents

https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/millen ... -1.2444341

https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/11/politics ... bility-us#

I'm not blaming boomers, mostly because it's unproductive. Go out, talk to your MP and MLA/MPP. Instead of arguing with strangers on the internet, actually do something about it. "Hey, the wealth gap is getting pretty bad" or "let's do something about housing affordability".

Gen X, millennials and Gen Z are now the primary voting demographics. Use that power.

[Red_Comet]

OMFG what an entitled moron. Gen X here and when I reminisce about the early years I think about my first job in Moncton instructing at MFC. My room and board was $300/month living in the Patch across the street and one month I didn’t even make that much. Many of my Colleagues were European’s just hanging around long enough to build time towards their euro license and here as students later working on work permits. I knew it was time to move on. My next job was instructing in South Western Ontario. I flew just under a thousand hours that year and made $12900. That was my last full time flying job for a bunch of years because I just couldn’t afford to hang on.

I did some part time instructing and occasional charter work and my real job become driving trucks where I could make a decent living. When I jumped back into aviation because I just had to fly I left a driving job pay $75K a year and became a Navajo Captain for Prince Edward Air making 29K. My friends thought I was nuts. I was a 5000 hour guy at that point.

My experience was Not unique. There was no going to Air Canada or any other jet airline because they pretty much only hired ex military. Making it up the ladder to a King Air was like shooting for the moon.

The next entitled Gen Z’r I get in the right seat telling me how great I had it is just not going to be PF that day.

You should have stuck to truck driving. I learned after a few years flying and meeting other pilots that we allow some very wacky characters into cockpits. There's a reason pilot in the RCAF is an Officer position that requires a university education. You and I have nothing to talk about. Enjoy your bennies while they last. Young men decide the fate of nations, not decrepit geriatrics. We will not be kind to those who have destroyed our nation which our ancestors built with blood, sweat and toil.

[Justjohn]

OMFG what an entitled moron. Gen X here and when I reminisce about the early years I think about my first job in Moncton instructing at MFC. My room and board was $300/month living in the Patch across the street and one month I didn’t even make that much. Many of my Colleagues were European’s just hanging around long enough to build time towards their euro license and here as students later working on work permits. I knew it was time to move on. My next job was instructing in South Western Ontario. I flew just under a thousand hours that year and made $12900. That was my last full time flying job for a bunch of years because I just couldn’t afford to hang on.

I did some part time instructing and occasional charter work and my real job become driving trucks where I could make a decent living. When I jumped back into aviation because I just had to fly I left a driving job pay $75K a year and became a Navajo Captain for Prince Edward Air making 29K. My friends thought I was nuts. I was a 5000 hour guy at that point.

My experience was Not unique. There was no going to Air Canada or any other jet airline because they pretty much only hired ex military. Making it up the ladder to a King Air was like shooting for the moon.

The next entitled Gen Z’r I get in the right seat telling me how great I had it is just not going to be PF that day.

You should have stuck to truck driving. I learned after a few years flying and meeting other pilots that we allow some very wacky characters into cockpits. There's a reason pilot in the RCAF is an Officer position that requires a university education. You and I have nothing to talk about. Enjoy your bennies while they last. Young men decide the fate of nations, not decrepit geriatrics. We will not be kind to those who have destroyed our nation which our ancestors built with blood, sweat and toil.

Wow I think I just felt my arrogance blow up in my face. What a twat you are. Must be a thrill to sit next to on a long day.

[Old fella]

OMFG what an entitled moron. Gen X here and when I reminisce about the early years I think about my first job in Moncton instructing at MFC. My room and board was $300/month living in the Patch across the street and one month I didn’t even make that much. Many of my Colleagues were European’s just hanging around long enough to build time towards their euro license and here as students later working on work permits. I knew it was time to move on. My next job was instructing in South Western Ontario. I flew just under a thousand hours that year and made $12900. That was my last full time flying job for a bunch of years because I just couldn’t afford to hang on.

I did some part time instructing and occasional charter work and my real job become driving trucks where I could make a decent living. When I jumped back into aviation because I just had to fly I left a driving job pay $75K a year and became a Navajo Captain for Prince Edward Air making 29K. My friends thought I was nuts. I was a 5000 hour guy at that point.

My experience was Not unique. There was no going to Air Canada or any other jet airline because they pretty much only hired ex military. Making it up the ladder to a King Air was like shooting for the moon.

The next entitled Gen Z’r I get in the right seat telling me how great I had it is just not going to be PF that day.

You should have stuck to truck driving. I learned after a few years flying and meeting other pilots that we allow some very wacky characters into cockpits. There's a reason pilot in the RCAF is an Officer position that requires a university education. You and I have nothing to talk about. Enjoy your bennies while they last. Young men decide the fate of nations, not decrepit geriatrics. We will not be kind to those who have destroyed our nation which our ancestors built with blood, sweat and toil.

[Old fella]

OMFG what an entitled moron. Gen X here and when I reminisce about the early years I think about my first job in Moncton instructing at MFC. My room and board was $300/month living in the Patch across the street and one month I didn’t even make that much. Many of my Colleagues were European’s just hanging around long enough to build time towards their euro license and here as students later working on work permits. I knew it was time to move on. My next job was instructing in South Western Ontario. I flew just under a thousand hours that year and made $12900. That was my last full time flying job for a bunch of years because I just couldn’t afford to hang on.

I did some part time instructing and occasional charter work and my real job become driving trucks where I could make a decent living. When I jumped back into aviation because I just had to fly I left a driving job pay $75K a year and became a Navajo Captain for Prince Edward Air making 29K. My friends thought I was nuts. I was a 5000 hour guy at that point.

My experience was Not unique. There was no going to Air Canada or any other jet airline because they pretty much only hired ex military. Making it up the ladder to a King Air was like shooting for the moon.

The next entitled Gen Z’r I get in the right seat telling me how great I had it is just not going to be PF that day.

You should have stuck to truck driving. I learned after a few years flying and meeting other pilots that we allow some very wacky characters into cockpits. There's a reason pilot in the RCAF is an Officer position that requires a university education. You and I have nothing to talk about. Enjoy your bennies while they last. Young men decide the fate of nations, not decrepit geriatrics. We will not be kind to those who have destroyed our nation which our ancestors built with blood, sweat and toil.

Wow I think I just felt my arrogance blow up in my face. What a twat you are. Must be a thrill to sit next to on a long day.

There is an appalling anger management stance with couple of these dudes, one hopes they are not in “either seat” of a major airlines aircraft with a load of people and other crew members.

[cdnavater]

A Jazz Dash 8 captain (37-50 seats) in the late 90s, early 2000s made about 160,000 base pay when adjusted for inflation.
Now someone flying the more productive version of the same plane (78 seats, 100+ kts faster) is making $115,000-$120,000. Adjust for the much more productive airplane, and the disparity is disturbing. This isn't about Jazz vs other Q400 operators, they all pay similar today.

My point is boomer captains made significantly more doing the same job.

There's a couple world events between now and then that were pretty tough on our profession, so I'm not blaming boomers entirely. Please do appreciate that the same job doesn't pay near as much as it used to.

It's a fact that millennials are worse off than their parents

https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/millen ... -1.2444341

https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/11/politics ... bility-us#

I'm not blaming boomers, mostly because it's unproductive. Go out, talk to your MP and MLA/MPP. Instead of arguing with strangers on the internet, actually do something about it. "Hey, the wealth gap is getting pretty bad" or "let's do something about housing affordability".

Gen X, millennials and Gen Z are now the primary voting demographics. Use that power.

You’re going to need to show your work here!
I’m looking at the 2003 pay scale, year 1 Captain was 65.01, adjusted 104.29
Today’s year 1 is 112.60
top Captain was year 15- 92.24/hour, adjusted for inflation is 145.39.
Today’s year 15 Captain is 166.27/hour, top is 175.99
For good measure I’ll include FO, misinformation needs to be addressed
Starting FO 32,400 based on 85 credit month, inflation adjusted is 51,978.27 today.
Today starting FO would be 68,921.40 based on 85
Top FO 2003 58.49(year 14) adjusted is 93.83,
Today’s year 14 doesn’t exist but year 12 is 107.28

[thepoors]

You should have stuck to truck driving. I learned after a few years flying and meeting other pilots that we allow some very wacky characters into cockpits. There's a reason pilot in the RCAF is an Officer position that requires a university education. You and I have nothing to talk about. Enjoy your bennies while they last. Young men decide the fate of nations, not decrepit geriatrics. We will not be kind to those who have destroyed our nation which our ancestors built with blood, sweat and toil.

Wow I think I just felt my arrogance blow up in my face. What a twat you are. Must be a thrill to sit next to on a long day.

There is an appalling anger management stance with couple of these dudes, one hopes they are not in “either seat” of a major airlines aircraft with a load of people and other crew members.

There is an appalling lack of self-awareness and a concerning case of toxic inflated ego on your part. Glad the only one who has to deal with it is the nurse who changes your Depends.