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C-GIKY, a Cessna 172 operated by Integrated Sensing & Surveillance Inc. (ISSINC), was
conducting a flight from Lloydminster Airport (CYLL), AB, to conduct some survey work and then
proceed to Kindersley Regional Aerodrome (CYKY), SK, with 2 souls on board. After finishing the
survey work, the pilot noticed that a storm had developed between their position and CYKY. The
pilot proceeded east to avoid the cell. Checking the weather report, the pilot determined that the
winds favored Runway 17 and proceeded to join a left base for Runway 17. When established on
final approach, rain started adhering to the windshield and made it difficult for the pilot to see the
runway. The pilot then decided to cross overhead to join a left hand downwind for Runway 26
instead. At this point the storm was approaching from the north. The pilot turned base and tried to
slow down to the approach speed and set full flaps. The pilot ended up high and fast and floated
quite far in the flare; touching down approximately 2/3rds of the way down the runway. The pilot
then retracted the flaps and tried to stop the aircraft as quickly as possible without locking the
brakes. The aircraft overran the end of Runway 26 by approximately 20 feet. The pilot then turned
the aircraft around and taxied back to the apron, shut down the aircraft, and inspected it for
damage. There was no damage. There were no injuries.
Runway Excursion Thread
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C-FSNP, an Airsprint Inc. Cessna 525B (Citation CJ3) departed Kelowna Airport (CYLW), BC, on
flight ASP675 to Fairmont Hot Springs Aerodrome (CYCZ), BC. On landing at CYCZ, the aircraft
encountered an unanticipated tailwind and the aircraft touched down more than 1000 feet past the
threshold of Runway 16. The crew was unable to stop the aircraft on the remaining runway. The
aircraft overran the runway and came to a stop in the runway end safety area (RESA)
approximately 100 feet past the end of the pavement. The crew and the passengers egressed with
no injuries. The aircraft had minor damage to the nose wheel tire.
Maintenance crews successfully moved the aircraft from the RESA to the ramp. The nose wheel
was replaced and the aircraft was ferried to the company’s main base where a maintenance
inspection found no further damage and the aircraft returned to service.
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flight ASP675 to Fairmont Hot Springs Aerodrome (CYCZ), BC. On landing at CYCZ, the aircraft
encountered an unanticipated tailwind and the aircraft touched down more than 1000 feet past the
threshold of Runway 16. The crew was unable to stop the aircraft on the remaining runway. The
aircraft overran the runway and came to a stop in the runway end safety area (RESA)
approximately 100 feet past the end of the pavement. The crew and the passengers egressed with
no injuries. The aircraft had minor damage to the nose wheel tire.
Maintenance crews successfully moved the aircraft from the RESA to the ramp. The nose wheel
was replaced and the aircraft was ferried to the company’s main base where a maintenance
inspection found no further damage and the aircraft returned to service.
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From TSB....
N708RF, a privately registered Cessna 172E, was conducting a flight from High River Aerodrome
(CEN4), AB, to Whitecourt Airport (CYZU), AB, with the pilot and one passenger onboard. The pilot
elected to use Runway 07 at CEN4 for the takeoff attempt. As the aircraft was not accelerating at a
rate the pilot was anticipating, the decision was made to abort the take-off run. The available
runway remaining was insufficient to stop the aircraft, and the aircraft exited the end of the runway
surface. The nose landing gear subsequently collapsed, the prop struck the ground and there was
significant damage to the cowling and forward fuselage. There were no injuries to the pilot or
passenger.
N708RF, a privately registered Cessna 172E, was conducting a flight from High River Aerodrome
(CEN4), AB, to Whitecourt Airport (CYZU), AB, with the pilot and one passenger onboard. The pilot
elected to use Runway 07 at CEN4 for the takeoff attempt. As the aircraft was not accelerating at a
rate the pilot was anticipating, the decision was made to abort the take-off run. The available
runway remaining was insufficient to stop the aircraft, and the aircraft exited the end of the runway
surface. The nose landing gear subsequently collapsed, the prop struck the ground and there was
significant damage to the cowling and forward fuselage. There were no injuries to the pilot or
passenger.
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N2471A, a privately registered Piper PA-22-135, was on a flight from the Ponoka Airport (CEH3), AB, to a private airstrip 18 NM northwest of the Edmonton International Airport (CYEG), AB, with only the pilot on board. After touching down at the private airstrip, the aircrafts brakes were ineffective, and the aircraft impacted a fence at the end of the airstrip, coming to rest inverted. The aircraft's emergency locator transmitter (ELT) activated and remained on after the accident. An RCMP helicopter responded to the ELT signal and once located turned off the ELT. The pilot suffered minor injuries and was able to self-extricate from the aircraft. The aircraft was substantially damaged. After the accident the pilot inspected the brakes and noted that there was no brake fluid in the system.
N2471A, a privately registered Piper PA-22-135, was on a flight from the Ponoka Airport (CEH3), AB, to a private airstrip 18 NM northwest of the Edmonton International Airport (CYEG), AB, with only the pilot on board. After touching down at the private airstrip, the aircrafts brakes were ineffective, and the aircraft impacted a fence at the end of the airstrip, coming to rest inverted. The aircraft's emergency locator transmitter (ELT) activated and remained on after the accident. An RCMP helicopter responded to the ELT signal and once located turned off the ELT. The pilot suffered minor injuries and was able to self-extricate from the aircraft. The aircraft was substantially damaged. After the accident the pilot inspected the brakes and noted that there was no brake fluid in the system.
Re: Runway Excursion Thread
Engine failures can create smoke. I lost a cylinder and could briefly smell something. Obviously, this situation was worse in terms of the failure. The master should go off for electrical smoke. That has a different smell than engine smoke which is also different than air conditioning smoke. Electrical smoke is acrid.
C-FRTN, a Cessna TP206D operated by Sky Dive Vancouver Island, was conducting a local
skydiving flight from Qualicum Beach Airport (CAT4), BC, with the pilot and 4 skydivers onboard.
At approximately 12 450 feet above sea level (ASL), the 4 skydivers exited the aircraft and the pilot
began their descent. As the aircraft approached 10 000 feet ASL, the pilot observed a strong
burning smell in the cabin that was followed by smoke, a rough running engine (Teledyne
Continental TSIO-520-C), and a loss of engine power. The pilot followed the emergency checklist
for an engine fire, shutdown the engine, and turned the master power switch off. The pilot declared
an emergency on the mandatory frequency using a handheld radio and conducted an emergency
power-off landing, with flaps retracted, on Runway 29 at CAT4. The aircraft touched down
approximately 1000 feet beyond the runway threshold. The pilot applied the brakes but the aircraft
continued off the end of the runway and stopped approximately 150 feet past the paved surface
where it collided with the airport perimeter fence. The pilot was not injured. There was no post
impact fire. The aircraft was substantially damaged.
Maintenance found that there was a hole in the top of the engine crankcase near the No. 4 cylinder
and the crankshaft had fractured. The engine will be removed and sent to a maintenance facility for
teardown and evaluation.
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C-FRTN, a Cessna TP206D operated by Sky Dive Vancouver Island, was conducting a local
skydiving flight from Qualicum Beach Airport (CAT4), BC, with the pilot and 4 skydivers onboard.
At approximately 12 450 feet above sea level (ASL), the 4 skydivers exited the aircraft and the pilot
began their descent. As the aircraft approached 10 000 feet ASL, the pilot observed a strong
burning smell in the cabin that was followed by smoke, a rough running engine (Teledyne
Continental TSIO-520-C), and a loss of engine power. The pilot followed the emergency checklist
for an engine fire, shutdown the engine, and turned the master power switch off. The pilot declared
an emergency on the mandatory frequency using a handheld radio and conducted an emergency
power-off landing, with flaps retracted, on Runway 29 at CAT4. The aircraft touched down
approximately 1000 feet beyond the runway threshold. The pilot applied the brakes but the aircraft
continued off the end of the runway and stopped approximately 150 feet past the paved surface
where it collided with the airport perimeter fence. The pilot was not injured. There was no post
impact fire. The aircraft was substantially damaged.
Maintenance found that there was a hole in the top of the engine crankcase near the No. 4 cylinder
and the crankshaft had fractured. The engine will be removed and sent to a maintenance facility for
teardown and evaluation.
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C-FMFA, a privately registered Cessna 190 was operating from the Edmonton/Josephburg
Aerodrome (CFB6), AB. During the landing roll the right brake became ineffective and the aircraft
veered to the left side of the runway. The aircraft exited the runway and ground looped. The
landing gear collapsed, and the aircraft came to rest in the grass. There were no injuries to the
pilot. The aircraft was substantially damaged with both the wing and fuselage bending during the
ground loop. The aircraft was subsequently removed from the runway.
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Aerodrome (CFB6), AB. During the landing roll the right brake became ineffective and the aircraft
veered to the left side of the runway. The aircraft exited the runway and ground looped. The
landing gear collapsed, and the aircraft came to rest in the grass. There were no injuries to the
pilot. The aircraft was substantially damaged with both the wing and fuselage bending during the
ground loop. The aircraft was subsequently removed from the runway.
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C-GNGN, a privately operated Van's RV 8, was conducting an instrument flight rules training flight from Ottawa/Gatineau Airport, QC (CYND) with one pilot and one instructor on board. During the return landing at CYND, the pilot lost yaw control of the aircraft, which rolled over and ended up on the runway 180 degrees off its initial path. There were no injuries, however, the right landing gear collapsed, and there was damage to the wing and propeller.
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I wonder what the rudder issue was.....
C-FYFB, a privately registered Piper PA-28R-200, was departing on Runway 33 at Sarnia Chris Hadfield Airport (CYZR), ON, for a local flight. During the takeoff roll, the aircraft veered off the left side of the runway onto the grass due to a rudder issue. The aircraft came to rest in the infield approximately 150 feet left of the Runway 33 centerline, near the 1000-foot marker. The nose and right main landing gear collapsed, and the right wing sustained damage. There were no injuries reported.
.....from TSB.
C-FYFB, a privately registered Piper PA-28R-200, was departing on Runway 33 at Sarnia Chris Hadfield Airport (CYZR), ON, for a local flight. During the takeoff roll, the aircraft veered off the left side of the runway onto the grass due to a rudder issue. The aircraft came to rest in the infield approximately 150 feet left of the Runway 33 centerline, near the 1000-foot marker. The nose and right main landing gear collapsed, and the right wing sustained damage. There were no injuries reported.
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C172 landing gear are fairly robust. Would be curious about the details of the failure......
C-FXNJ, a privately registered Cessna 172B, was landing on Runway 08 at Region of Waterloo International Airport (CYKF), ON, with winds reported from 360 degrees, creating a left crosswind. During the landing roll, the aircraft veered left, the right main landing gear failed, and the right wing contacted the runway surface, resulting in a 180-degree ground loop. The aircraft came to rest at the intersection of Runways 08/26 and 14/32. The aerodrome was temporarily closed until the aircraft was removed, causing delays to local general aviation traffic. There were two persons on board, and no injuries were reported.
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C-FXNJ, a privately registered Cessna 172B, was landing on Runway 08 at Region of Waterloo International Airport (CYKF), ON, with winds reported from 360 degrees, creating a left crosswind. During the landing roll, the aircraft veered left, the right main landing gear failed, and the right wing contacted the runway surface, resulting in a 180-degree ground loop. The aircraft came to rest at the intersection of Runways 08/26 and 14/32. The aerodrome was temporarily closed until the aircraft was removed, causing delays to local general aviation traffic. There were two persons on board, and no injuries were reported.
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C-GYRW, a Cessna 172N operated by Durham Flight Centre Inc., was conducting a local training flight from Oshawa Executive Airport (CYOO), ON, with one student pilot and one instructor on board. Shortly after rotation during takeoff from runway 12, the engine experienced a loss of approximatively 250 RPM. A rejected takeoff was initiated, and the aircraft landed straight ahead. During the rollout, it struck a barricade and broke through a fence before coming to a stop. At the time of the occurrence, the available length of runway 12 had been reduced from 4750 feet to 4000 feet due to construction work at the runway end. Emergency services responded to the scene. Both occupants were uninjured, but the aircraft sustained substantial damage.
C-GYRW, a Cessna 172N operated by Durham Flight Centre Inc., was conducting a local training flight from Oshawa Executive Airport (CYOO), ON, with one student pilot and one instructor on board. Shortly after rotation during takeoff from runway 12, the engine experienced a loss of approximatively 250 RPM. A rejected takeoff was initiated, and the aircraft landed straight ahead. During the rollout, it struck a barricade and broke through a fence before coming to a stop. At the time of the occurrence, the available length of runway 12 had been reduced from 4750 feet to 4000 feet due to construction work at the runway end. Emergency services responded to the scene. Both occupants were uninjured, but the aircraft sustained substantial damage.
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C-GDCW, a Springbank Air Training College PA-34-200T, was on a local training flight out of
Springbank Airport (CYBW), AB. During the landing, the aircraft landed approximately 1100 feet
after the threshold on the ice-covered runway. The aircraft skidded approximately 20 feet past the
end of the runway into the snow-covered grass. During the approach, tower reported the Canadian
Runway Friction Index (CRFI) to be 0.18. The occupants egressed from the aircraft on their own
and the aircraft was towed to the operator's hangar where the two main tires were replaced due to
skidding. There was no further damage to the aircraft.
....Best to go-around of you float. And the TAS will be higher at a higher elevation airport like Springbank.
C-GDCW, a Springbank Air Training College PA-34-200T, was on a local training flight out of
Springbank Airport (CYBW), AB. During the landing, the aircraft landed approximately 1100 feet
after the threshold on the ice-covered runway. The aircraft skidded approximately 20 feet past the
end of the runway into the snow-covered grass. During the approach, tower reported the Canadian
Runway Friction Index (CRFI) to be 0.18. The occupants egressed from the aircraft on their own
and the aircraft was towed to the operator's hangar where the two main tires were replaced due to
skidding. There was no further damage to the aircraft.
....Best to go-around of you float. And the TAS will be higher at a higher elevation airport like Springbank.
Re: Runway Excursion Thread
You would expect a multi instructor to have better pilot decision making...pelmet wrote: ↑Wed Dec 17, 2025 9:56 am From Tsb....
C-GDCW, a Springbank Air Training College PA-34-200T, was on a local training flight out of
Springbank Airport (CYBW), AB. During the landing, the aircraft landed approximately 1100 feet
after the threshold on the ice-covered runway. The aircraft skidded approximately 20 feet past the
end of the runway into the snow-covered grass. During the approach, tower reported the Canadian
Runway Friction Index (CRFI) to be 0.18. The occupants egressed from the aircraft on their own
and the aircraft was towed to the operator's hangar where the two main tires were replaced due to
skidding. There was no further damage to the aircraft.
....Best to go-around of you float. And the TAS will be higher at a higher elevation airport like Springbank.
Re: Runway Excursion Thread
If uncertain how much runway has disappeared behind in any floating esp on the longer runway , yes for sure; except (even as floating might have just become noticeable ) once touched down here could’ve been best move to avoid go-around. Depends also which runway it was.
Including before and after metars would be useful. Maybe saves the situation by staying down?
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A near excursion but interesting in how it was all handled....
C-GFWX, an Air Canada Rouge Airbus A320-214 was operating as ROU1511 from Toronto/Lester
B. Pearson International Airport (CYYZ), ON, to Thunder Bay International Airport (CYQT), ON.
After landing on Runway 25 at CYQT and as the aircraft exited onto Taxiway D at low speed, the
aircraft experienced a loss of control on the ground due to icy conditions. Steering and braking
inputs were ineffective, and the aircraft slowly slid toward the edge of Taxiway D before coming to
a stop on the edge of the taxiway.
The flight crew notified ATC and requested a tow, as further movement under its own power was
deemed unsafe. Engines were shut down, and the aircraft remained on APU power while airport
personnel applied de-icing chemicals on the asphalt and prepared for towing. The aircraft was
towed to the gate approximately 90 minutes after landing, without further incident.
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C-GFWX, an Air Canada Rouge Airbus A320-214 was operating as ROU1511 from Toronto/Lester
B. Pearson International Airport (CYYZ), ON, to Thunder Bay International Airport (CYQT), ON.
After landing on Runway 25 at CYQT and as the aircraft exited onto Taxiway D at low speed, the
aircraft experienced a loss of control on the ground due to icy conditions. Steering and braking
inputs were ineffective, and the aircraft slowly slid toward the edge of Taxiway D before coming to
a stop on the edge of the taxiway.
The flight crew notified ATC and requested a tow, as further movement under its own power was
deemed unsafe. Engines were shut down, and the aircraft remained on APU power while airport
personnel applied de-icing chemicals on the asphalt and prepared for towing. The aircraft was
towed to the gate approximately 90 minutes after landing, without further incident.
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Re: Runway Excursion Thread
I am assuming that there was a large yawing moment when reverse was selected. If so, is there a way to identify the likely issue prior to departure?
C-GTIM, a Swearingen SA226-TC operated by SkyCare Air Ambulance, was conducting an IFR
flight from the Pikangikum Airport (CYPM), ON, to the Sioux Lookout Airport (CYXL), ON. The first
officer was flying the aircraft during the approach and landing at CYXL. While on the landing roll on
Runway 16, the aircraft veered to the right. The captain took control to correct the right turn and the
aircraft then veered sharply to the left. The captain continued the left turn and applied power to exit
the left side of the runway surface to avoid hitting a runway light. The aircraft then taxied to the
ramp.
The operator's maintenance department was notified of an erroneous left engine torque reading
during a subsequent start attempt. Upon inspection, it was noticed that the left-hand propeller
blades were out of track but had no damage to their leading edges. It was also noted that the right
main landing gear tires exhibited skidding damage.
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C-GTIM, a Swearingen SA226-TC operated by SkyCare Air Ambulance, was conducting an IFR
flight from the Pikangikum Airport (CYPM), ON, to the Sioux Lookout Airport (CYXL), ON. The first
officer was flying the aircraft during the approach and landing at CYXL. While on the landing roll on
Runway 16, the aircraft veered to the right. The captain took control to correct the right turn and the
aircraft then veered sharply to the left. The captain continued the left turn and applied power to exit
the left side of the runway surface to avoid hitting a runway light. The aircraft then taxied to the
ramp.
The operator's maintenance department was notified of an erroneous left engine torque reading
during a subsequent start attempt. Upon inspection, it was noticed that the left-hand propeller
blades were out of track but had no damage to their leading edges. It was also noted that the right
main landing gear tires exhibited skidding damage.
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