AC Intends to Extend and Expand CPA with PAL Airlines

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AC Intends to Extend and Expand CPA with PAL Airlines

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https://www.aircanada.com/media/air-can ... airlines/

CPA to be extended through 2032 and an additional 5 airplanes.
MONTRÉAL, Jan. 08, 2026 (GLOBE NEWSWIRE) -- Air Canada and PAL Airlines announced today their intent to expand the commercial agreement under which PAL operates regional flights for Air Canada Express, helping protect and grow service in Eastern Canada. The existing agreement is to be extended by an additional four years to 2032, and the number of PAL Airlines aircraft covered by the agreement is expected to grow by five, to eleven.

“Air Canada is committed to regional connectivity. Our proposed agreement with PAL Airlines will enable us to protect existing services from Montréal to destinations in Québec and New Brunswick and support the overall growth of our regional network. Since PAL Airlines began operating for Air Canada Express in 2023, it has proven to be a strong partner, offering our customers in eastern Canada reliability, excellent customer service and a greater choice of flying options,” said Mark Galardo, Executive Vice President and Chief Commercial Officer, and President of Cargo at Air Canada.

“PAL Airlines is proud to work on expanding our agreement with Air Canada, growing our considerable presence in Eastern and Atlantic Canada by delivering flexible solutions that support regional connectivity for the Air Canada network,” said Calvin Ash, President of PAL Airlines. “This proposed extended arrangement with Air Canada reflects their confidence in our operation, supports the continued growth of our airline, and will solidify our presence in the regions which have supported our development.”
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I wonder what Jazz thinks of this.

Convenient timing from the ULP letter also.
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Let me get this straight.
Jazz can't staff adequately to meet their contractual obligations, so PAL starts doing their flying. Jazz still can't hire enough pilots, so PAL expands.

What's PAL doing that makes them able to hire the pilots Jazz can't seem to attract?
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East coast bases I’d assume.
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PAL is an amazing place to work for. And unfortunately with the current state of JAZZ, anyone that wants AC knows to avoid it.So it’s a nice place to wait for the call. PAL also has better numbers when it comes to on time performance and flight cancellations than jazz, so AC likes it
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Hangry wrote: Fri Jan 09, 2026 5:53 am East coast bases I’d assume.
Didn't Jazz have a YHZ base back a while ago?
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The Jazz YHZ pilot base closed over 15 years ago. The flight attendant base is closing in a few weeks.
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Jazz is not Air Canada. It used to be, but now it's a completely separate company. Outside of negotiated contracts, Air Canada owes neither Jazz nor Jazz pilots anything.

It makes sense for AC to expand a secondary contract with another company.
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Inverted2 wrote: Fri Jan 09, 2026 7:56 am The Jazz YHZ pilot base closed over 15 years ago. The flight attendant base is closing in a few weeks.
Jazz used to have a temporary Q400 base in YHZ over covid of 30 pilots I think. My understanding is they never wanted to open a permanent Q400 base just because Air Canada changed equipment on routes so often. I think with the amount of Q400 routes, that having a YHZ base would have definitely retained quite a few more pilots. Seems like quite an insult to Jazz to lose all the east coast flying to PAL when their headquarters and heavy maintenance hub is based there.
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B797ER wrote: Fri Jan 09, 2026 6:04 am PAL is an amazing place to work for. And unfortunately with the current state of JAZZ, anyone that wants AC knows to avoid it.So it’s a nice place to wait for the call. PAL also has better numbers when it comes to on time performance and flight cancellations than jazz, so AC likes it
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fixnfly wrote: Fri Jan 09, 2026 4:56 pm
Inverted2 wrote: Fri Jan 09, 2026 7:56 am The Jazz YHZ pilot base closed over 15 years ago. The flight attendant base is closing in a few weeks.
Jazz used to have a temporary Q400 base in YHZ over covid of 30 pilots I think. My understanding is they never wanted to open a permanent Q400 base just because Air Canada changed equipment on routes so often. I think with the amount of Q400 routes, that having a YHZ base would have definitely retained quite a few more pilots. Seems like quite an insult to Jazz to lose all the east coast flying to PAL when their headquarters and heavy maintenance hub is based there.
Jazz is like Encore. Delays your call to mother corp. Living in YYT & YHZ is cheaper and far more appealing to many than YYZ/YUL. Dealing with YYZ just to DH to YUL/YOW etc to operate sucks. Getting paid for sure but rinse & repeat on Rapidair sucks.
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goingnowherefast wrote: Fri Jan 09, 2026 5:44 am Let me get this straight.
Jazz can't staff adequately to meet their contractual obligations, so PAL starts doing their flying. Jazz still can't hire enough pilots, so PAL expands.

What's PAL doing that makes them able to hire the pilots Jazz can't seem to attract?
Jazz doesn’t want to staff adequately. When an applicant applies at both PAL and Jazz but gets only an offer from PAL it’s safe to assume which company wants to staff their planes.
PAL is growing and Jazz is trickling down the other way.
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goingnowherefast wrote: Fri Jan 09, 2026 5:44 am Let me get this straight.
Jazz can't staff adequately to meet their contractual obligations, so PAL starts doing their flying. Jazz still can't hire enough pilots, so PAL expands.

What's PAL doing that makes them able to hire the pilots Jazz can't seem to attract?
Also Jazz requires a Dash 8 type rating to be hired, that requirement alone doesn’t help with getting lots of applications.
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dustyroads wrote: Thu Jan 15, 2026 12:14 pm
goingnowherefast wrote: Fri Jan 09, 2026 5:44 am Let me get this straight.
Jazz can't staff adequately to meet their contractual obligations, so PAL starts doing their flying. Jazz still can't hire enough pilots, so PAL expands.

What's PAL doing that makes them able to hire the pilots Jazz can't seem to attract?
Also Jazz requires a Dash 8 type rating to be hired, that requirement alone doesn’t help with getting lots of applications.
What the hell are you talking about, Jazz has never required a Dash 8 type rating to be hired, it’s safe to say the vast majority of pilots hired at Jazz have not had a Dash type rating!
I really wish you would stop talking out of your ass about things you know nothing about, someone new on here might believe you! Screw off!
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cdnavater wrote: Thu Jan 15, 2026 8:23 pm
dustyroads wrote: Thu Jan 15, 2026 12:14 pm
goingnowherefast wrote: Fri Jan 09, 2026 5:44 am Let me get this straight.
Jazz can't staff adequately to meet their contractual obligations, so PAL starts doing their flying. Jazz still can't hire enough pilots, so PAL expands.

What's PAL doing that makes them able to hire the pilots Jazz can't seem to attract?
Also Jazz requires a Dash 8 type rating to be hired, that requirement alone doesn’t help with getting lots of applications.
What the hell are you talking about, Jazz has never required a Dash 8 type rating to be hired, it’s safe to say the vast majority of pilots hired at Jazz have not had a Dash type rating!
I really wish you would stop talking out of your ass about things you know nothing about, someone new on here might believe you! Screw off!
You’re not familiar with Jazz hiring. Part of the hiring process is to pass a simulator evaluation which is conducted in a Dash 8 simulator. It’s safe to say one needs to have previous dash 8 experience to pass the simulator evaluation!
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Haha, Dusty has snagged a few of you! Nice one DR :lol:
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dustyroads wrote: Fri Jan 16, 2026 3:50 am
cdnavater wrote: Thu Jan 15, 2026 8:23 pm
dustyroads wrote: Thu Jan 15, 2026 12:14 pm

Also Jazz requires a Dash 8 type rating to be hired, that requirement alone doesn’t help with getting lots of applications.
What the hell are you talking about, Jazz has never required a Dash 8 type rating to be hired, it’s safe to say the vast majority of pilots hired at Jazz have not had a Dash type rating!
I really wish you would stop talking out of your ass about things you know nothing about, someone new on here might believe you! Screw off!
You’re not familiar with Jazz hiring. Part of the hiring process is to pass a simulator evaluation which is conducted in a Dash 8 simulator. It’s safe to say one needs to have previous dash 8 experience to pass the simulator evaluation!
I’m extremely familiar with the Jazz hiring process, it has been the same since I started 20 years ago, they are not looking to see if you can fly a Dash 8, they are looking to see if you are trainable and can work well with others, something you clearly could not demonstrate when you were rejected!
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dustyroads wrote: Fri Jan 16, 2026 3:50 am
cdnavater wrote: Thu Jan 15, 2026 8:23 pm
dustyroads wrote: Thu Jan 15, 2026 12:14 pm

Also Jazz requires a Dash 8 type rating to be hired, that requirement alone doesn’t help with getting lots of applications.
What the hell are you talking about, Jazz has never required a Dash 8 type rating to be hired, it’s safe to say the vast majority of pilots hired at Jazz have not had a Dash type rating!
I really wish you would stop talking out of your ass about things you know nothing about, someone new on here might believe you! Screw off!
You’re not familiar with Jazz hiring. Part of the hiring process is to pass a simulator evaluation which is conducted in a Dash 8 simulator. It’s safe to say one needs to have previous dash 8 experience to pass the simulator evaluation!
Ya. I’m not sure what you’re going on about here. It’s not about the plane itself. It’s how well you work together in a two crew environment. And can learn as best as you can with the info they provide you prior to sim. They’re not asking for v1 cuts.

An airplane is an airplane.
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All you need to do is look at dustyroads join date and review a few of his posts from the past to understand he definitely has no clue about what's going on here.

Not worth your time fellas.
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