Meanwhile.......If the CEO of Air Canada is out on his ass......what are your chances at AT in a slow hiring environment? Maybe try and get a reference from DanWec and 330Heavy to improve your odds Good luck with that.
As if AT is not under pressure to follow the AC CEO line of thinking, probably from both the inside and outside.
But hey....With 330Heavy making it clear of his inside info on the hiring, he can let us know the specific language qualifications we are talking about of those hired this year. Don't expect that info to be given to us though.
WTF are you on about Pelmet? You link a thread from 20 yrs ago, and if you read through it, it confirms that pilots were hired without French, so isn't a hard requirement, and it's still not. Once again, nice to have, and yes may help put you above someone with same qualifications, and are a fit here. But hey, you know better, you hate minorities, women, and the French, so believe what you want. You ain't gonna change shit with whatever crusade you are on. So give it up and go touch grass as the kids would say.
And whatever "safety" posts you think you have is completely discredited by your racist, misogynists, arrogant posts.
So much for moving on from this thread like you posted above. Maybe find another activity while drinking?
330Heavy
Putting the language debate to one side, conventional wisdom from many travellers I know and have been involved with over many years your employer AT offers a quality product, always has and no doubt will continue in that direction. Just an observation
Meanwhile.......If the CEO of Air Canada is out on his ass......what are your chances at AT in a slow hiring environment? Maybe try and get a reference from DanWec and 330Heavy to improve your odds Good luck with that.
As if AT is not under pressure to follow the AC CEO line of thinking, probably from both the inside and outside.
But hey....With 330Heavy making it clear of his inside info on the hiring, he can let us know the specific language qualifications we are talking about of those hired this year. Don't expect that info to be given to us though.
WTF are you on about Pelmet? You link a thread from 20 yrs ago, and if you read through it, it confirms that pilots were hired without French, so isn't a hard requirement, and it's still not. Once again, nice to have, and yes may help put you above someone with same qualifications, and are a fit here. But hey, you know better, you hate minorities, women, and the French, so believe what you want. You ain't gonna change shit with whatever crusade you are on. So give it up and go touch grass as the kids would say.
And whatever "safety" posts you think you have is completely discredited by your racist, misogynists, arrogant posts.
So much for moving on from this thread like you posted above. Maybe find another activity while drinking?
330Heavy
Putting the language debate to one side, conventional wisdom from many travellers I know and have been involved with over many years your employer AT offers a quality product, always has and no doubt will continue in that direction. Just an observation
Thanks Old Fella…….
I thought I would put the credibility of your statement to the test and simply put Air Transat reviews into a search engine and chose the first site that came up…,,,people can judge these independent reviews for themselves……
My personal experiences(admittedly from long ago)…….middle of the night flying to and from nearby Cuba with a two hour drive to the resort from Holguin(great for the circadian rhythm but at least one person - me - thought it was cool to fly on an L1011), a cancelled flight(on a different trip) due to broken down aircraft......Not too many happy pax on that one, and the final one.....the plane broke down but through interesting procedures, got it going with only a minimal delay(back-end pax just love listening to a screaming JT-8D running on a 727 with the airstairs down and mechanic opening the door to get back in after a manual start).
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WTF are you on about Pelmet? You link a thread from 20 yrs ago, and if you read through it, it confirms that pilots were hired without French, so isn't a hard requirement, and it's still not. Once again, nice to have, and yes may help put you above someone with same qualifications, and are a fit here. But hey, you know better, you hate minorities, women, and the French, so believe what you want. You ain't gonna change shit with whatever crusade you are on. So give it up and go touch grass as the kids would say.
And whatever "safety" posts you think you have is completely discredited by your racist, misogynists, arrogant posts.
So much for moving on from this thread like you posted above. Maybe find another activity while drinking?
330Heavy
Putting the language debate to one side, conventional wisdom from many travellers I know and have been involved with over many years your employer AT offers a quality product, always has and no doubt will continue in that direction. Just an observation
Thanks Old Fella…….
I thought I would put the credibility of your statement to the test and simply put Air Transat reviews into a search engine and chose the first site that came up…,,,people can judge these independent reviews for themselves……
My personal experiences(admittedly from long ago)…….middle of the night flying to and from nearby Cuba with a two hour drive to the resort from Holguin(great for the circadian rhythm but at least one person - me - thought it was cool to fly on an L1011), a cancelled flight(on a different trip) due to broken down aircraft......Not too many happy pax on that one, and the final one.....the plane broke down but through interesting procedures, got it going with only a minimal delay(back-end pax just love listening to a screaming JT-8D running on a 727 with the airstairs down and mechanic opening the door to get back in after a manual start).
Put any Canadian airline into the search and you'll get similar score and reviews. You'd have to go back in time before internet reviews to get something positive from the populus about an airline. Those days are sadly gone. Even search US and European airlines, similar results. You'd have to go to Emirates to get a decent score and reviews, even then, some bads ones as with anything.
While airlines are run by accountants, as with most corporations, you also have a population that expects royal treatment for less than their Starbucks latte, or even free (yes I've heard of those demanding an upgrade or something else for free because they feel entitled).
Old Fella, thanks. I give credit to our Flight Attendants, they usually do a great job, and are the face/ambassadors of the airline. Still, the onboard product can be better. And good news, there is onboard improvments coming later this year and next.
Putting the language debate to one side, conventional wisdom from many travellers I know and have been involved with over many years your employer AT offers a quality product, always has and no doubt will continue in that direction. Just an observation
Thanks Old Fella…….
I thought I would put the credibility of your statement to the test and simply put Air Transat reviews into a search engine and chose the first site that came up…,,,people can judge these independent reviews for themselves……
My personal experiences(admittedly from long ago)…….middle of the night flying to and from nearby Cuba with a two hour drive to the resort from Holguin(great for the circadian rhythm but at least one person - me - thought it was cool to fly on an L1011), a cancelled flight(on a different trip) due to broken down aircraft......Not too many happy pax on that one, and the final one.....the plane broke down but through interesting procedures, got it going with only a minimal delay(back-end pax just love listening to a screaming JT-8D running on a 727 with the airstairs down and mechanic opening the door to get back in after a manual start).
Put any Canadian airline into the search and you'll get similar score and reviews. You'd have to go back in time before internet reviews to get something positive from the populus about an airline. Those days are sadly gone. Even search US and European airlines, similar results. You'd have to go to Emirates to get a decent score and reviews, even then, some bads ones as with anything.
While airlines are run by accountants, as with most corporations, you also have a population that expects royal treatment for less than their Starbucks latte, or even free (yes I've heard of those demanding an upgrade or something else for free because they feel entitled).
Old Fella, thanks. I give credit to our Flight Attendants, they usually do a great job, and are the face/ambassadors of the airline. Still, the onboard product can be better. And good news, there is onboard improvments coming later this year and next.
I don't disagree with your initial paragraph in terms of complaints. I suspect that is the reality(although people with complaints are more likely to post something as compared to a good journey).
I was simply calling out the BS from Old Fella(who seems to like to contradict factual statements I state(as we have argued before))about how things seem to be so wonderful all the time. And admittedly, AC has their fair share of delays with me waiting three extra hours the other day.
I don't have any specific memory of the cabin crew on my AT flights, so they were likely fine.
Would I fly on AT? Of course.
But I suspect AC may have better reliability as they have more aircraft that can be substituted in the event of a breakdown(or an alternative route to destination with a partner or themselves). That can be a big benefit when things go crazy like in Mexico earlier this year or in a blizzard. That can be a significant consideration.
Old Fella, thanks. I give credit to our Flight Attendants, they usually do a great job, and are the face/ambassadors of the airline. Still, the onboard product can be better. And good news, there is onboard improvments coming later this year and next.”
Hey 330heavy
Just to reiterate on my comment regarding AT, I spoke to people in conversations DIRECTLY in a prior capacity that I had over a decade and a bit who used AT for their travels and was told by folks yes, AT offers a quality product and travel expectations were met and at times ,exceeded. Again, this is what I heard in specific conversations on the subject. Here is wishing your employer AT a bright future going forward.
Just to reiterate on my comment regarding AT, I spoke to people in conversations DIRECTLY in a prior capacity that I had over a decade and a bit who used AT for their travels and was told by folks yes, AT offers a quality product and travel expectations were met and at times ,exceeded. Again, this is what I heard in specific conversations on the subject. Here is wishing your employer AT a bright future going forward.
By your leave.
Hey 330Heavy. My experiences posted earlier in the thread were FIRST HAND and in addition, the review link that I posted were from TripAdvisor, which is a major review board. Not sure what travel expectations are but would not be surprised if they are lower for the charter airlines than AC. After hearing about charter airline screw-ups over the decades that made the news, sometimes just getting there is an accomplishment in the minds of some of the public(or not crashing on any airline).
I did check up on AC as you recommended "Put any Canadian airline into the search and you'll get similar score and reviews" and there were plenty of complaints for them as well. I suspect the other carriers would be similar, so I agree in general with your statement.
Then again......delays can be great. I have stayed an extra day at a resort in Cuba and once had a 6 hour delay on Zoom Airlines in Paris for a mid-day departure. I was lucky enough to double check and actually got through on a phone call. I had the hotel store my luggage which gave me an extra beautiful day in Paris while many didn't check and ended up hanging out at the airport and were none too happy.
I wasn't questioning your first hand experince Pelmet, just stating that most airlines fail the consumer at some point, or that the consumer has too high expectation, or distorts facts to their narritave. And thus poor reviews of airlines that are interestingly all within a half a star of eachother. We aviators have seen the good and bad flights, but we are more understanding and patience than the pax, and are able to make the best of it or pivot to plan B, C etc.
And since this is off-topic, and to return to the one at hand, and to end this thread! Believe me, and ask any other Air Transat pilot; French isn't a requirement, just a nice to have, just like a degree, thousands of PIC or TT, etc. Respect for fellow francophones and others here (language, race, sex) is a hard requirement.
Happy Flights
330heavy wrote: ↑Thu Apr 16, 2026 9:27 am
I wasn't questioning your first hand experince Pelmet, just stating that most airlines fail the consumer at some point, or that the consumer has too high expectation, or distorts facts to their narritave. And thus poor reviews of airlines that are interestingly all within a half a star of eachother. We aviators have seen the good and bad flights, but we are more understanding and patience than the pax, and are able to make the best of it or pivot to plan B, C etc.
And since this is off-topic, and to return to the one at hand, and to end this thread! Believe me, and ask any other Air Transat pilot; French isn't a requirement, just a nice to have, just like a degree, thousands of PIC or TT, etc. Respect for fellow francophones and others here (language, race, sex) is a hard requirement.
Happy Flights
Good luck with that.
