Sunwing B737 Captain fired for ordering fried chicken

[Nauclerus]

"Can I get a large bucket of fried chicken, with slices of watermelon and a six pack of non alcoholic Bud light beer for me and my friends?"

https://www.canlii.org/en/ca/cala/doc/2 ... cmkAAAAAAQ

[CpnCrunch]

Looks like there is a whole raftload of restaurants a 12 min walk from this hotel. Has he never walked through an airport?

[YYCAME]

Sometimes it is better to just apologize rather then doubling down when called out on something. I have a feeling a large part of this was the attempt to play it off as a legit request that was misinterpreted. I don't think we need to fire everyone who tells a manager to F themselves but you probably need to at least apologize and agree to express yourself better in the future or you put them a tough situation of losing face or forcing actual discipline.

[IslanderHeavy]

It’s YFC, a taxi downtown would have been like 10$ with a tip.

[Daniel Cooper]

I think it's important to note they didn't directly send the email to the manager who was offended. Fried chicken and watermelon is one of my favorite meals so it's disturbing that my race could cost me my career if another person catches wind that I ordered it.

It's actually in my fridge right now.

[FAAflyguy]

I think it's important to note they didn't directly send the email to the manager who was offended. Fried chicken and watermelon is one of my favorite meals so it's disturbing that my race could cost me my career if another person catches wind that I ordered it.

It's actually in my fridge right now.

Being purposefully this obtuse in 2026 is such a pathetic look. Grow up or get left behind.

[pelmet]

I think it's important to note they didn't directly send the email to the manager who was offended. Fried chicken and watermelon is one of my favorite meals so it's disturbing that my race could cost me my career if another person catches wind that I ordered it.

It's actually in my fridge right now.

Being purposefully this obtuse in 2026 is such a pathetic look. Grow up or get left behind.

Well, the pilot apologized, just like our former PM did for all the blackface events. It seems that those so willing to forgive trudeau find what this pilot did as being unforgivable.

[Me262]

So a legit meal can now get you fired. Got it. I'm not allowed to like fried chicken and watermelon. Anything else I shouldn't like? Maybe Shwarma because it will be interpreted as harassment by a turkish CS employee?

Also, my company ALPA's needs to fight for meal delivery, I had no clue this could be a thing.

[digits_]

So a legit meal can now get you fired. Got it. I'm not allowed to like fried chicken and watermelon. Anything else I shouldn't like? Maybe Shwarma because it will be interpreted as harassment by a turkish CS employee?

Also, my company ALPA's needs to fight for meal delivery, I had no clue this could be a thing.

Read the ruling. The judge deemed it not a legitimate meal request and had some pretty convincing arguments.

[TheMexicoLooter]

THAT RASICT WASN'T FOOLING ANYBODY WE ALL KNOW THAT CHICKEN 6 NON ALCOHOL BEER AND PACKAGED WATER MELON SLICES IS AN OBVIOUS DOG WHISTLER

[altiplano]

What if he was black?

Would it have been a legitimate meal request then?

If he was going for the stereotype he didn't complete it either - non-alcoholic Buds? It's not like he ordered a 40 oz of Old English or Colt 45.

[Blackdog0301]

This guy knew exactly what he was doing and what he said. Saying sorry is appreciated, but it doesn't relieve you of the consequences that follow. Tough lesson to learn.

[Bede]

What if he was black?

Would it have been a legitimate meal request then?

If he was going for the stereotype he didn't complete it either - non-alcoholic Buds? It's not like he ordered a 40 oz of Old English or Colt 45.

Did you read the decision? The arbitrator determined that it wasn't a legitimate request for a number of reasons.

I spoke with a guy today who knew him since flight school. Apparently, the guy always rode the line. This time he stepped over.

[Dias]

Context is everything. If you're not black you can't say you like chicken or watermelon or it's racism. If you're not handsome you can't tell a woman her hair looks nice or it's sexual harassment. You always need to remember the context or you will suffer the consequences.

[Dias]

I spoke with a guy today who knew him since flight school. Apparently, the guy always rode the line. This time he stepped over.

Another example of context. What happened in the past changes the meaning of what you say today. I wish it was admissible as evidence in criminal trials so we could stop judging people based solely on their present actions. Hearsay as well.

[digits_]

Context is everything. If you're not black you can't say you like chicken or watermelon or it's racism. If you're not handsome you can't tell a woman her hair looks nice or it's sexual harassment. You always need to remember the context or you will suffer the consequences.

How about you read the actual context as described in the ruling?

If this was a real food order, he would not have been in trouble.

How often do you order a crew meal with crew scheduling "for your friends" ?

[altiplano]

What if he was black?

Would it have been a legitimate meal request then?

If he was going for the stereotype he didn't complete it either - non-alcoholic Buds? It's not like he ordered a 40 oz of Old English or Colt 45.

Did you read the decision? The arbitrator determined that it wasn't a legitimate request for a number of reasons.

I spoke with a guy today who knew him since flight school. Apparently, the guy always rode the line. This time he stepped over.

I did.

If he was black would that it was a legitimate request be in question?

If he was making an illegitimate request, was it just a stupid order without understanding of the connotation? It missed the racist mark by adding the Bud light. That in fact offsets the fried chicken order.

And if he did understand the connotation I don't believe it was directed at anyone other than himself, as that's who the order was for.

Also, the fact is that fried chicken and watermelon is delicious. Why shouldn't a white man enjoy that and wash it down? Why does everything have to be about race? What if he didn't order the watermelon? What if he ordered chow mein and green tea? What if he ordered sushi and sake? What if he ordered BBQ and a pack Marlboro reds? Who gives a shit. Get this man his dinner...

The thing that also gets completely missed is that the employer was in violation of the collective agreement which provoked this whole situation. Why were they so resistant to allow him to expense a $10 cab ride to fulfill his requirement to access to services?

And arbitrator reasons... like not following up on his order? not bringing his friend into it as a witness? Weak.

There's no way that someone should get their career washed down the toilet for this. If he "walked the line" why wasn't previous discipline entered as evidence?

[digits_]

I am curious though, if the captain wanted to fight this based on the "it wouldn't have been a problem if i was black", would he still be able to in a court of law? Or did he give up that right when agreeing to arbitration? Or is arbitration the first step because it's part of the collective agreement?

[cdnavater]

What if he was black?

Would it have been a legitimate meal request then?

If he was going for the stereotype he didn't complete it either - non-alcoholic Buds? It's not like he ordered a 40 oz of Old English or Colt 45.

Did you read the decision? The arbitrator determined that it wasn't a legitimate request for a number of reasons.

I spoke with a guy today who knew him since flight school. Apparently, the guy always rode the line. This time he stepped over.

I did.

If he was black would that it was a legitimate request be in question?

If he was making an illegitimate request, was it just a stupid order without understanding of the connotation? It missed the racist mark by adding the Bud light. That in fact offsets the fried chicken order.

And if he did understand the connotation I don't believe it was directed at anyone other than himself, as that's who the order was for.

Also, the fact is that fried chicken and watermelon is delicious. Why shouldn't a white man enjoy that and wash it down? Why does everything have to be about race? What if he didn't order the watermelon? What if he ordered chow mein and green tea? What if he ordered sushi and sake? What if he ordered BBQ and a pack Marlboro reds? Who gives a shit. Get this man his dinner...

The thing that also gets completely missed is that the employer was in violation of the collective agreement which provoked this whole situation. Why were they so resistant to allow him to expense a $10 cab ride to fulfill his requirement to access to services?

And arbitrator reasons... like not following up on his order? not bringing his friend into it as a witness? Weak.

There's no way that someone should get their career washed down the toilet for this. If he "walked the line" why wasn't previous discipline entered as evidence?

The fact that this email went out at 1am, after he had already got together with a friend and already ate food, the order was not intended but made as a snide remark. The fact the snide remark had racial connotations to it, is why this happened.
He didn’t order anything, he knew full well at 1 am, no food was coming, however, I agree, he should not be losing his career over this.

[pelmet]

Honest question. In this country, if the crew gets together to go to dinner and I suggest KFC for dinner to the group, and then there is a complaint, could I get fired.

Wouldn’t surprise me in this country. Be careful who you decide to associate with. You never know what could happen. It is like going to a party with a female.

I had an experience with a stewardess who would come up to the cockpit repeatedly and without prompting tell the most crude of sexual jokes(the captain loved it). At some point relatively soon after while off duty, after the alcohol had started flowing and after she had, on her own started discussing her chest size, a question was asked to her about whether they real or not. She freaked out and there was great worry about whether this would go further or not. I swallowed my pride and apologized to this ditz of a bimbo but was prepared to fully discuss things with management that she had said in my presence if need be. Yes, she was a ditz(in look and personality) yet apparently became some sort of peace officer up north.

Be careful who you associate with. There is no shortage of people that are unreasonable and we live in an era where maximum punishment for a joke after a few drinks will gladly be meted out. It ain’t worth your career taking a chance.

I suspect that in the Sunwing case, the guy was not actually asking for a legitimate order. A suspension for a month would have been reasonable.

Protect yourself from maximum punishment in this woke era where most of us are guilty until proven innocent and targets for maximum punishment in a society where the few among us can get away with exactly the same banned terminology(like N-word) with endless excuses of justification from those that will crush us without care.

[digits_]

I had an experience with a stewardess who would come up to the cockpit repeatedly and without prompting tell the most crude of sexual jokes(the captain loved it). At some point relatively soon after while off duty, after the alcohol had started flowing and after she had, on her own started discussing her chest size, a question was asked to her about whether they real or not. She freaked out and there was great worry about whether this would go further or not. I swallowed my pride and apologized to this ditz of a bimbo but was prepared to fully discuss things with management that she had said in my presence if need be. Yes, she was a ditz(in look and personality) yet apparently became some sort of peace officer up north.

You were joking around with your coworker, took it too far, apologized and absolutely nothing bad happened yet you still feel the need to call her names?

Can you figure out why people feel the need for more rules regarding social conduct in the workplace?

[JungleRiot]

I had an experience with a stewardess who would come up to the cockpit repeatedly and without prompting tell the most crude of sexual jokes(the captain loved it). At some point relatively soon after while off duty, after the alcohol had started flowing and after she had, on her own started discussing her chest size, a question was asked to her about whether they real or not. She freaked out and there was great worry about whether this would go further or not. I swallowed my pride and apologized to this ditz of a bimbo but was prepared to fully discuss things with management that she had said in my presence if need be. Yes, she was a ditz(in look and personality) yet apparently became some sort of peace officer up north.

You were joking around with your coworker, took it too far, apologized and absolutely nothing bad happened yet you still feel the need to call her names?

Can you figure out why people feel the need for more rules regarding social conduct in the workplace?

You do realize that certain people only exist to bait you and to try to get you fired. Dont take the bait. We had an trolley dolly come up to the flight deck offering us premuim snacks. The captain decided to help himself and she later wrote him up because apparently youre not allowed to help yourself to them, even though she offered. In her report she said it was "theft".
Careful who you become buddy buddy's with

[pelmet]

I had an experience with a stewardess who would come up to the cockpit repeatedly and without prompting tell the most crude of sexual jokes(the captain loved it). At some point relatively soon after while off duty, after the alcohol had started flowing and after she had, on her own started discussing her chest size, a question was asked to her about whether they real or not. She freaked out and there was great worry about whether this would go further or not. I swallowed my pride and apologized to this ditz of a bimbo but was prepared to fully discuss things with management that she had said in my presence if need be. Yes, she was a ditz(in look and personality) yet apparently became some sort of peace officer up north.

You were joking around with your coworker, took it too far, apologized and absolutely nothing bad happened yet you still feel the need to call her names?

Can you figure out why people feel the need for more rules regarding social conduct in the workplace?

Well, she is a ditz. But she set the environment and I took it no further than where she repeatedly went. Then she freaks out like I am acting inappropriately. Don’t set the environment up repeatedly in a way that you don’t like it to be. In other words, I was prepared to file multiple sexual harassment claims. Perhaps she realized that. What a ditz.


Looks like Digits has found the victim to punish. Protect yourself from people like that. They will be willing to ruin your career in their rulings and come up with any excuse as justification while ignoring the double standard.

[pelmet]

I had an experience with a stewardess who would come up to the cockpit repeatedly and without prompting tell the most crude of sexual jokes(the captain loved it). At some point relatively soon after while off duty, after the alcohol had started flowing and after she had, on her own started discussing her chest size, a question was asked to her about whether they real or not. She freaked out and there was great worry about whether this would go further or not. I swallowed my pride and apologized to this ditz of a bimbo but was prepared to fully discuss things with management that she had said in my presence if need be. Yes, she was a ditz(in look and personality) yet apparently became some sort of peace officer up north.

You were joking around with your coworker, took it too far, apologized and absolutely nothing bad happened yet you still feel the need to call her names?

Can you figure out why people feel the need for more rules regarding social conduct in the workplace?

You do realize that certain people only exist to bait you and to try to get you fired. Dont take the bait. We had an trolley dolly come up to the flight deck offering us premuim snacks. The captain decided to help himself and she later wrote him up because apparently youre not allowed to help yourself to them, even though she offered. In her report she said it was "theft".
Careful who you become buddy buddy's with

Unbelievable, the flight attendant should suffer the same fate as an accomplice and even more for initiating a crime. What a ditz.

[pelmet]

I had an experience with a stewardess who would come up to the cockpit repeatedly and without prompting tell the most crude of sexual jokes(the captain loved it). At some point relatively soon after while off duty, after the alcohol had started flowing and after she had, on her own started discussing her chest size, a question was asked to her about whether they real or not. She freaked out and there was great worry about whether this would go further or not. I swallowed my pride and apologized to this ditz of a bimbo but was prepared to fully discuss things with management that she had said in my presence if need be. Yes, she was a ditz(in look and personality) yet apparently became some sort of peace officer up north.

You were joking around with your coworker, took it too far, apologized and absolutely nothing bad happened yet you still feel the need to call her names?

Can you figure out why people feel the need for more rules regarding social conduct in the workplace?

You do realize that certain people only exist to bait you and to try to get you fired. Dont take the bait. We had an trolley dolly come up to the flight deck offering us premuim snacks. The captain decided to help himself and she later wrote him up because apparently youre not allowed to help yourself to them, even though she offered. In her report she said it was "theft".
Careful who you become buddy buddy's with

Unbelievable, the flight attendant should suffer the same fate as an accomplice and even more for entrapment in an act that she knew was criminal. That one is more malicious.