BE20 forced landing Prince George

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Re: BE20 forced landing Prince George

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cncpc wrote: Wed Aug 26, 2026 6:35 pm If fuel exhaustion caused this crash, the tanks would have been empty sitting there on the side of the road. TSB will have checked them by now. To their credit, they have recently been divulging key information within days of accidents. Certainly, I would expect them to have said the aircraft ran out of fuel by now. How did that happen? Yes, that is for down the road. But empty tanks, there is no reason for holding that back.

Was there a Mayday when the left quit? If there was, what did the pilot say his intentions were? Surely he couldn't have said, "Landing on a road" with fuel and the right engine doing just fine.
If it's now a manslaughter case would they still release everything to the public?
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Not something that I would comment on at this stage. Or possibly at any stage. Not saying your question is not fair enough, but I expect most fair minded people would want to hear what the TSB has found before going down that road.
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yrp wrote: Mon Aug 24, 2026 2:10 pm Here is the ADS-B track from adsbexchange.com:

https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=c0 ... rackLabels

Previous track for the day shown for comparison.



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Just took a few minutes to look at this ADSB track. Some things stand out. The GS seems to have dropped off a fair way back up north on the accident flight. It is down to 106 kts in the last few minutes, but it is generally lower for most of the returns in this screenshot. Where exactly did the left engine fail? I see considerably higher GS on the other flight that day for the maneuvering to land phase. The flight up had to be IFR, but the return seems to be much lower, and wandering.

Anybody got winds aloft at the time?
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cncpc wrote: Thu Aug 27, 2026 6:41 pm
Just took a few minutes to look at this ADSB track. Some things stand out. The GS seems to have dropped off a fair way back up north on the accident flight. It is down to 106 kts in the last few minutes, but it is generally lower for most of the returns in this screenshot. Where exactly did the left engine fail? I see considerably higher GS on the other flight that day for the maneuvering to land phase. The flight up had to be IFR, but the return seems to be much lower, and wandering.

Anybody got winds aloft at the time?
Looking at that data, it doesn't indicate just a simple engine failure.
A king air 200 at 12500lbs should be able to maintain 15000asl on one engine, single engine TAS at 15k should be ~190kts if I remember correctly. Down at 5000 - 195ktas. Best range glide is 135kias.
They fly really well on one engine, so I don't see why you'd choose to descend and slow down, there had to be something else going on. Maybe flaps stuck down?

Radiosonde data from that day at YXS showed winds as out of the west at 10-15mph from the surface to 20000.
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Maybe they were gliding deadstick.
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cncpc wrote: Wed Aug 26, 2026 6:35 pm If fuel exhaustion caused this crash, the tanks would have been empty sitting there on the side of the road. TSB will have checked them by now. To their credit, they have recently been divulging key information within days of accidents. Certainly, I would expect them to have said the aircraft ran out of fuel by now. How did that happen? Yes, that is for down the road. But empty tanks, there is no reason for holding that back.

Was there a Mayday when the left quit? If there was, what did the pilot say his intentions were? Surely he couldn't have said, "Landing on a road" with fuel and the right engine doing just fine.
TSB is brutally slow at releasing any info. A report last year took almost 3 years to release and there were no mysteries to solve. CVR/FDC/Pilots all intact. Cause was pretty obvious.
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