Serious Incident FZ1073

[Eric Janson]

https://avherald.com/h?article=5423fa17&opt=0

Still a developing story. Picture showing most of the rudder torn off (unsure if this is the same aircraft).

Looks like 2 off duty Pilots saved the day.

[Sulako]

[Sulako]

https://streamable.com/2d1kse

That's a video link to some footage inside the plane. *warning* it has blood so if you are squeamish, don't load the video.

Apparently the FO tried to hijack the plane and stabbed the Captain. Both pilots were incapacitated and the plane dropped 14,000 feet in 30 seconds, nearly breaking the sound barrier. Two passengers who happened to be pilots were able to safely land the plane - they weren't deadheading.

More to come, I'm sure.

[Daniel Cooper]

Two passengers who happened to be pilots were able to safely land the plane - they weren't deadheading.

I believe they were.
Everyone onboard is very lucky they weren't shot down.

[flieslikeachicken]

This isn't the CBC... you can use the T word.

The title has been fixed for you.

[Eric Janson]

Everyone onboard is very lucky they weren't shot down.

Yes - probably a matter of minutes.

No way you'd be entering Israeli airspace after a 7700/7500 squawk.

I imagine the Saudis were also ready to take action.

[pelmet]

Let’s hope AC and other airlines in Canada are as proactive as Oman Air….

https://www.foxnews.com/world/flydubai- ... ine-report

[Eric Janson]

Let’s hope AC and other airlines in Canada are as proactive as Oman Air….

https://www.foxnews.com/world/flydubai- ... ine-report

From the AC employment website:-

We are committed to creating a workplace where diversity, equity and inclusion are valued and encouraged.

Don't hold your breath...

[pelmet]

Let’s hope AC and other airlines in Canada are as proactive as Oman Air….

https://www.foxnews.com/world/flydubai- ... ine-report

From the AC employment website:-

We are committed to creating a workplace where diversity, equity and inclusion are valued and encouraged.

Don't hold your breath...

You know there is a problem in the country when the CBC refuses to use the word terrorists for the 9/11 attackers. All to prevent hurt feelings suppose. Our aviation risk goes up because of that kind of thinking.

[canadianfly]

The prelim report has not come out yet so i wouldn't put any kind of judgment yet.

Guys we're all professionals here let's not succumb to paranoia. We know for certain that if any pilot wants to do something stupid, there is no one that could prevent him/her from doing it, sadly we all remember German wings.

We can analyse however we want but we need to wait for the prelim report as the CVR is intact (Hopefully)

[jpilot77]

The prelim report has not come out yet so i wouldn't put any kind of judgment yet.

Guys we're all professionals here let's not succumb to paranoia. We know for certain that if any pilot wants to do something stupid, there is no one that could prevent him/her from doing it, sadly we all remember German wings.

We can analyse however we want but we need to wait for the prelim report as the CVR is intact (Hopefully)

I think it’s pretty clear what happened.

[pdw]

It’s not every day that you can get such a large number of witnesses … and also those directly involved, those banding together in the struggle to save the aircraft from a complete disaster.

[pelmet]

It’s not every day that you can get such a large number of witnesses … and also those directly involved, those banding together in the struggle to save the aircraft from a complete disaster.

Similar was attempted on 9/11 when multiple terrorists took over the United aircraft that crashed in Pennsylvania.

[Eric Janson]

In case people have forgotten...

https://www.ctvnews.ca/montreal/article ... dia-posts/

His only mistake was wearing his Uniform - otherwise some of you would be sharing a cockpit with him.

Then there's Omar Khadr who has flown on Air Canada multiple times despite being a convicted Terrorist. Hope you're happy he's on your flight!

[flieslikeachicken]

It’s not every day that you can get such a large number of witnesses … and also those directly involved, those banding together in the struggle to save the aircraft from a complete disaster.

When you grow up experiencing terror attacks, you learn that you can't wait for someone else to take action.

[CpnCrunch]

His only mistake was wearing his Uniform - otherwise some of you would be sharing a cockpit with him.

Also this:

One of the screenshots from an Instagram account allegedly belonging to Ezzo promoted the protest with the caption: "Burn in hell." Another post allegedly showed Ezzo holding a sign showing an Israeli flag being dumped into a trash can with the messaging: "Keep the world clean."

Then there's Omar Khadr who has flown on Air Canada multiple times despite being a convicted Terrorist. Hope you're happy he's on your flight!

Khadr's trial was highly problematic. He was a child soldier, there was no evidence that he threw the grenade, but there was evidence that he was shot in the back by a US special forces soldier.

[flieslikeachicken]

Khadr's trial was highly problematic. He was a child soldier, there was no evidence that he threw the grenade, but there was evidence that he was shot in the back by a US special forces soldier.

He fired his lawyers and plead guilty. He spoke directly to Speer's family and said that he was sorry for the pain that he caused.

He is a traitor to this country and has manipulated the Liberal government to call him a victim.

[canadianfly]

I would plead guilty for anything they want if I'm being tortured for weeks 24/7 in no man's land where no jurisdiction applies.

Omar is a fellow citizen, he's own crime was to be in the wrong place in the wrong time, any dual citizen could go back to his other country for family visit and could end up being downloaded.

Let's use our brain for something other than calculating the 3 degrees descent path, as an example, why did tower 7 collapse ?? evaporating tons of gold in it's safes

[pelmet]

Khadr's trial was highly problematic. He was a child soldier, there was no evidence that he threw the grenade, but there was evidence that he was shot in the back by a US special forces soldier.

He fired his lawyers and plead guilty. He spoke directly to Speer's family and said that he was sorry for the pain that he caused.

He is a traitor to this country and has manipulated the Liberal government to call him a victim.

He has also manipulated the liberal and further left voters to feel sorry for him.
It amazes me how many people in the west now support those that would cheer at their death by terrorist act.

[CpnCrunch]

He has also manipulated the liberal and further left voters to feel sorry for him.
It amazes me how many people in the west now support those that would cheer at their death by terrorist act.

Except it's pretty clear from all the evidence that he wouldn't. I'd feel safer flying with him than the AC pilot mentioned above, who does have evidence of being hateful against Israelis. I'd also much prefer to fly with him than most of the prolific posters on here.

[Eric Janson]

Omar is a fellow citizen, he's own crime was to be in the wrong place in the wrong time, any dual citizen could go back to his other country for family visit and could end up being downloaded.

There's a video of Omar in a bomb making factory - wrong place wrong time? Family visit?

He should have been stripped of his Canadian citizenship and dumped in Pakistan or Afghanistan. Absurd that our own laws are being used against us to prevent this.

Terrorists don't have any rights - jmho.

[canadianfly]

Omar is a fellow citizen, he's own crime was to be in the wrong place in the wrong time, any dual citizen could go back to his other country for family visit and could end up being downloaded.

There's a video of Omar in a bomb making factory - wrong place wrong time?

He should have been stripped of his Canadian citizenship and dumped in Pakistan or Afghanistan. Absurd that our own laws are being used against us to prevent this.

Terrorists don't have any rights - jmho.

The supreme court of Canada ruled 3 times in favour of Mr Omar Khadr, are you saying you don't recognize our justice system Eric?

Mr Khadr was convicted in a foreign country by a military commission outside of the judicial system while he was 16 yo.

One last question for you Eric, had his name been Francois or Johnathan, do you think he would've been treated the same way??

[pelmet]

Omar is a fellow citizen, he's own crime was to be in the wrong place in the wrong time, any dual citizen could go back to his other country for family visit and could end up being downloaded.

There's a video of Omar in a bomb making factory - wrong place wrong time? Family visit?

He has also manipulated the liberal and further left voters to feel sorry for him.
It amazes me how many people in the west now support those that would cheer at their death by terrorist act.

Except it's pretty clear from all the evidence that he wouldn't……….I'd also much prefer to fly with him rather than most of the prolific posters on this forum.

Hahahaha.

But CpnCrunch would feel more comfortable flying with our famous bomb-making Afghan than the more prolific posters on AvCanada.

Can you spell deranged?


“If Omar Khadr is released on bail Thursday, he will have to wear a monitoring device and will face several conditions that restrict everything from his internet use to visits with his family.”

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton ... -1.3061540

[canadianfly]

Well the judge has spoken in the first 3 minutes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0W6MzmV ... WL&index=3

[tsgarp]

The supreme court of Canada ruled 3 times in favour of Mr Omar Khadr, are you saying you don't recognize our justice system Eric?

Mr Khadr was convicted in a foreign country by a military commission outside of the judicial system while he was 16 yo.

One last question for you Eric, had his name been Francois or Johnathan, do you think he would've been treated the same way??

Members of the judiciary have recently ruled that drug trafficking is a constitutional right, so, no I don’t recognize the validity of their judgment.

Mr Khadr was engaged in combat operations against a Canadian ally in an area where Canada has no jurisdiction. The nation he injured has the right to dispose of him in the way they see fit.

If he were a White Christian Trudeau would have left him in Gitmo.

@#$! him.