Atpl docs

floatingbeaver · Post by **floatingbeaver** » Wed Jan 18, 2006 8:40 pm

Just noticed someones post in the colored ink thread about log books for the Atpl. Do you have to bring in all your logbooks fromyour start or only the current one you are using. Planning to write my Atpl in Feb and will be taking the aerocourse first. Thanks l

chipmunk · Post by **chipmunk** » Wed Jan 18, 2006 9:04 pm

Bring in whatever logbooks you need to prove the time that you are using towards the ATP... so probably in most cases (unless you've been flying for years and years and just never got around to writing the exams) it'll be all of 'em.

TC Guy · Post by **TC Guy** » Wed Jan 18, 2006 10:50 pm

chipmunk wrote:Bring in whatever logbooks you need to prove the time that you are using towards the ATP... so probably in most cases (unless you've been flying for years and years and just never got around to writing the exams) it'll be all of 'em.

You will need to submit the logbooks that will provide proof of the minimum requirements for the ATPL. For most applicants, this is all of them.

The ATPL is (bar none) the most difficult licencing that TC does... it can become quite complex, depending on where you flew, what you flew, if the aircraft required 2 crew, if you had a PPC on that aircraft.

Don't get me started on pilot-in-command under supervision and co-pilot time... that can be a real bear.

If you have questions, contact your local TC office, and talk to a licencing inspector/officer. They can save you time and money. They will keep your licencing fee if you send in an application, but don't have the required experience.

Good luck!

-Guy

CAL · Post by **CAL** » Thu Jan 19, 2006 7:06 am

Question about that:

About 700 hours of the time I am putting towards the atpl is overseas, not to mention some other general aviation time......It was a single pilot opp and I had to do the local exmas and rides etc for it to obtain a local license....will tc take this? and I entered a big chunk of the time in my logbook as the flight number alone..is that acceptable?

I hope so....I guess its best to have a bunch of time 'in reserve' so to speak that they cant question that way you are assured of it....

Thanks for any help....

lawndart · Post by **lawndart** » Thu Jan 19, 2006 8:29 am

I recently had my ATPL issued, and there is a bunch of paperwork. Bring every logbook you have used.

Additionally, TC wanted to see signed letters from CP/Ops managers that any co-pilot time was valid. This included time on aircraft that are type certified by TC as 2 crew aircraft. They also wanted to see any/all PPC cards.

Basically, it seems that they want a paper trail on your hours, so give it to them and there shouldn't be too much trouble.

CAL · Post by **CAL** » Thu Jan 19, 2006 8:58 am

what if a chunk of your pic time was not commercial and was on either rental a/c or friends a/c from different countries?....

chipmunk · Post by **chipmunk** » Thu Jan 19, 2006 9:04 am

If the time was on a rental aircraft, have the operator certify the times correct with one of their fancy little stamps.

CAL · Post by **CAL** » Thu Jan 19, 2006 9:09 am

wow this is going to be a challenge....I cant remember half the names of the companies...one of them was in Florida one in Georgia...a/c in the Cayman Islands..couple schools in Nova Scotia...what do I have to courier my log book to them all?.....doesnt seem worth it..maybe best to just wait until you have all the time from a canadian company...keep it nice and simple for TC....

lowandslow · Post by **lowandslow** » Fri Jan 20, 2006 12:04 am

no, just get a letter sent of faxed to you to put in your book to verify the times... as long as they have something signed by someone(they seem to care who)...

touchngo · Post by **touchngo** » Mon Jan 23, 2006 4:56 pm

i dont get it, called tranport and they say you dont need your book certified anymore but they do need a letter from the company for any copilot time (letter stating they flew two crew on a single pilot aircraft).
my question being after all these years to get the requirments what was stopping me from padding the book? other than morals i mean.

ahramin · Post by **ahramin** » Mon Jan 23, 2006 5:13 pm

The same thing that stopped you before: Nothing but your integrity or your being afraid of getting caught. Certifying a logbook never meant anything or stopped anyone from padding thier logbook. I am glad someone at transport was bright enough to realise this.

C-GPFG · Post by **C-GPFG** » Wed Jan 25, 2006 9:07 am

Mine was quite painless..filled out the application, the inspector checked I carried forward the totals from each logbook accurately, photocopied the last page of my last logbook and the ATPL was in my mailbox 2 days later.
The last 2 years of flying (800 hours) wasn't even certified by my employer.

Hedley · Post by **Hedley** » Wed Jan 25, 2006 9:35 am

Dealing with Transport is a bit like dealing with your psychotic bipolar ex-wife who's off her meds, but you still can't resist having wild, athletic, kinky recreational sex with her every now and then, when she isn't creating self-inflicted wounds and calling the cops up and telling them you beat and raped her.

You're just never quite sure what's going to happen this encounter ... it might be really good, and it might be really bad.

Bad news: you can't get rid of dealing with either Transport or the psychotic ex-wife unless you move out of the country.

Cat Driver · Post by **Cat Driver** » Wed Jan 25, 2006 10:31 am

" Bad news: you can't get rid of dealing with either Transport or the psychotic ex-wife unless you move out of the country. "

Hear, hear Hedley how true, how true.

Leaving Canada to work and not having to deal with TC was like having a boil on my ass lanced and it cured the problem.

My wife on the other hand is great and she also travels overseas with me.

Cat