What ever happened to Gateway Airlines?
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pencilneck
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What ever happened to Gateway Airlines?
This company operated a couple Super DC-3's out of Brantford Ontario a few years back. i wonder what happened to the airplanes and the company in general. Met a couple of pilots and an engineer in Thunder Bay. They seemed like a pretty happy group.
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linecrew
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What ever happened to Gateway Airlines?
One of the C-117D/R4D-8/Super DC-3's has been parked at Miami's Opa Locka airport since at least last year.
http://myaviation.net/search/photo_sear ... size=large
http://www.airliners.net/open.file/796750/L/
http://myaviation.net/search/photo_sear ... size=large
http://www.airliners.net/open.file/796750/L/
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Cat Driver
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Last time I was in C-GDIK was in 1995 when I gave Duke Elegant his first check out in a C117.
Seems like only yesterday and I stll can't believe the Duke is gone, he was a superb pilot and a real character to work with.
Cat
Seems like only yesterday and I stll can't believe the Duke is gone, he was a superb pilot and a real character to work with.
Cat
The hardest thing about flying is knowing when to say no
After over a half a century of flying no one ever died because of my decision not to fly.
After over a half a century of flying no one ever died because of my decision not to fly.
Gateway closed their doors a couple of years ago and I heard operate now as an AMO in Souix Lookout. I flew DIK and DOG for a few months ( for Gateway) and can't say I miss them much.
bronson - you can be in a hurry or you can be in an airplane, but don't ever get into both at once
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When they were being operated out here by Skyfreighters they did not need a map to find their way back home, all they needed to do was follow the oil trail they left on the way out. 
I was chief pilot when they first got their OC...I did not stay long because it was a real gong show.
Cat
I was chief pilot when they first got their OC...I did not stay long because it was a real gong show.
Cat
The hardest thing about flying is knowing when to say no
After over a half a century of flying no one ever died because of my decision not to fly.
After over a half a century of flying no one ever died because of my decision not to fly.
They were based out of Brantford - CYFD, down at the other end of the field where I work. 2 DC-3's are still falling apart outside. G-DOG & G-GKE
If you want some DC-3 airframes and a bunch (11?) engines. This is the place to come for them.
When they were flying, they flew quite a bit. Usually a flight or two every couple days.
If you want some DC-3 airframes and a bunch (11?) engines. This is the place to come for them.
When they were flying, they flew quite a bit. Usually a flight or two every couple days.
they have since closed down the flying side of things,
The aircraft in the Pic GDIK was in sioux lookout for the longest time, and as in the picture since went to miami for a cargo company.
As someone else said the owner of gateway bought eagle aviation, an amo in sioux lookout, I think his origianl plane was to run cargo with the 3's up north but than changed his mind and sold DIK to the miami operator
The aircraft in the Pic GDIK was in sioux lookout for the longest time, and as in the picture since went to miami for a cargo company.
As someone else said the owner of gateway bought eagle aviation, an amo in sioux lookout, I think his origianl plane was to run cargo with the 3's up north but than changed his mind and sold DIK to the miami operator
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He did have plans for working the Northern Ontario thing with the DC-3 but when the C-46 proved capable of flying 6000 more lbs at the same cost with First Nations Air Transport I think it kinda changed the direction. Chris is a real good guy and has a good business sense. I'm sure we'll see him on the Sioux Lookout aviation scene in the near future.
He did have plans for working the Northern Ontario thing with the DC-3 but when the C-46 proved capable of flying 6000 more lbs at the same cost with First Nations Air Transport I think it kinda changed the direction. Chris is a real good guy and has a good business sense. I'm sure we'll see him on the Sioux Lookout aviation scene in the near future.
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pencilneck
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Wasn't there a Gateway Aviation back around the 50's or 60's out of Edmonton. (I think I say) it was later sold it to Russ Baker of PWA. This is going back some time.
I do remember seeing an Associated Airways airstairs in ol' hangar 25. That 10-15 years ago before it was torn down at CYXD. That I know was a Tommy Fox company. Now that I think about it. It was Associated that was sold to PWA and Gateway was sold to Time Air I do believe. Correct me if I'm wrong.
I do remember seeing an Associated Airways airstairs in ol' hangar 25. That 10-15 years ago before it was torn down at CYXD. That I know was a Tommy Fox company. Now that I think about it. It was Associated that was sold to PWA and Gateway was sold to Time Air I do believe. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Rectum, damn near killed 'em
DA900. You are absolutly correct, there was a Gateway Aviation out of Edmonchuck with bases in YZF and other places in the high Arctic.
Martin Hartwell, of the Be18 crash who turned to canabilizum to survive, fame, was a pilot for Gateway.
They then started a sched service using a Convair 600 and F27 and were bought out by Time Air which was absorbed into the Canadian Regional fold.
Martin Hartwell, of the Be18 crash who turned to canabilizum to survive, fame, was a pilot for Gateway.
They then started a sched service using a Convair 600 and F27 and were bought out by Time Air which was absorbed into the Canadian Regional fold.
The average pilot, despite the somewhat swaggering exterior, is very much capable of such feelings as love, affection, intimacy and caring.
These feelings just don't involve anyone else.
These feelings just don't involve anyone else.
DA900,
I remember those airstairs you mentioned, they sat outside the Time Air hangar for the longest time. I never knew who they actually belonged to, during the years I worked out of that hangar. I guess they were just part of the package when Time Air bought the place.
I think they were sized for a DC-3.
Last time I saw them they had made there way to the museum down the road.
Regards,
60N30W
I remember those airstairs you mentioned, they sat outside the Time Air hangar for the longest time. I never knew who they actually belonged to, during the years I worked out of that hangar. I guess they were just part of the package when Time Air bought the place.
I think they were sized for a DC-3.
Last time I saw them they had made there way to the museum down the road.
Regards,
60N30W
Actually THAT Gateway out of YXD et al was taken over by Northward Aviation, which subsequently went TU. Some of their sked licenses went to Time Air (remember... before deregulation) and some of their charter licenses to North Cariboo (YXD) and Southern Frontier (YYC). Time Air bought those licenses around 85 and 86.
Gateway operated the HS748 (MAK?) and Convair 640 (FPWS), besides the numerous smaller a/c. PWS ended up at Time Air.
And yes, the stairs are being used by the AAMA. Both the DC-3 ones and the taller ones.
Gateway operated the HS748 (MAK?) and Convair 640 (FPWS), besides the numerous smaller a/c. PWS ended up at Time Air.
And yes, the stairs are being used by the AAMA. Both the DC-3 ones and the taller ones.
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linecrew
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One of the YXD Gateway DC-3's is sitting outside the Reynolds-Alberta Aviation Museum in Wetaskiwin.
http://www.airliners.net/open.file/0228856/L/
http://www.airliners.net/open.file/0228856/L/
I remember the old Gateway Aviation. Gateway was a large operator years ago. Had a whole hockey sock full of airplanes and flew all over the north.
I had a very enjoyable visit from Pencil Driver yesterday and he is researching an old Ontario airline for a book. This research can be addictive and fasinating.
Has anyone ever given thought to researhing and doing a book on various Canadian airline of the past?
Guys like Cat Driver could be a real source of vital information and I would like to see someone put it all down in print before older guys like . --- well. you know, it all happens to us at some time or other.
., do you know of anyone who is or has done the history of Austin Airways and were you ever consulted?
What about the flight school you learned to fly at?
Any takers???
I had a very enjoyable visit from Pencil Driver yesterday and he is researching an old Ontario airline for a book. This research can be addictive and fasinating.
Has anyone ever given thought to researhing and doing a book on various Canadian airline of the past?
Guys like Cat Driver could be a real source of vital information and I would like to see someone put it all down in print before older guys like . --- well. you know, it all happens to us at some time or other.
., do you know of anyone who is or has done the history of Austin Airways and were you ever consulted?
What about the flight school you learned to fly at?
Any takers???
The average pilot, despite the somewhat swaggering exterior, is very much capable of such feelings as love, affection, intimacy and caring.
These feelings just don't involve anyone else.
These feelings just don't involve anyone else.
